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AIBU to think an Edinburgh festival show about Meredith Kercher's murder should be stopped?

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VivienneDelacroix · 06/08/2026 01:04

Aibu to think that this show at the Edinburgh Festival should be cancelled? It mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher and serves it up as entertainment.

Not only is it horribly disrespectful of Meredith's family, but it also belittles the issue of violence against girls and women.

Meredith's siblings are calling for it to be pulled from the festival. There is also a petition calling for it to be stopped.

c.org/WXGTGJfpRh

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11AndCounting · Yesterday 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 21:34

11AndCounting · Yesterday 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

Edited

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

OP posts:
Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 21:52

11AndCounting · Yesterday 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

Edited

I know - I’m virtually speechless - someone campaigning against societal structure - Both MK and AK were victims of and
has no sympathy with AK plight

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 21:55

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 21:34

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

Edited

The show is about AK experience at the hands of patriarchal system as a MOJ victim - that which you are campaigning against - not circumstances of MK murder - which would be how MK was murdered by rudi

it’s a show to highlight your sort of campaign

on the contrary I think AK telling her experience will improve her Menatal health

pucelleauxblanchesmains · Yesterday 22:43

The way some people talk about it you'd think she got herself deliberately falsely imprisoned just to upset the Kercher family.

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 23:05

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 21:52

I know - I’m virtually speechless - someone campaigning against societal structure - Both MK and AK were victims of and
has no sympathy with AK plight

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

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11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:06

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 21:34

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

Edited

The show is not about the murder.

And the "circumstances following the murder" were an extremely fantastical, misogynistic prosection that victimized a woman, and a multicontitental, misogynistic media campaign (largely all built on -gasp- a woman having premarital sex and owning a vibrator , thus rendering her a satanic she-devil).

The vast majority of wrongful prosecutions will, naturally, follow a crime. One's that result in years behind bars and an international media furore will, naturally, arise from serious crimes.

The scale and extent of the misogyny that Knox suffered should never be forgotten - particularly due to the role of the international (and particularly, the British press).

Because the jury was not sequestered, they were able to consume all of the misogynistic reporting - and the prosecution further leveraged this by leaking unverified or outright false claims to the media, meticulously timed to build a public narrative of Knox as a manipulative, hyper-sexualized sociopath.

One of the often overlooked police strategies I think we would do well to remember - the police falsely told Knox that she had HIV (causing severe distress) in order to trick her into making a list of all of her past sexual partners (7, in total) which was then leaked to the media so that they could readily depict her as a sex-crazed man-eater. Something the British press gleefully participated in.

What happened to her is jaw-dropping, and genuinely reminiscent of 16th century witch trial, but on a scale that was larger by orders of magnitude.

As to comedy as the vehicle - well, for one its apparently less a comedy show and more a combination of her life story and a treatise against the patriarchy and its dangers, coupled with some gallows humor at her own expense (including her apparent "unlikeability").

As posted earlier in the thread, the show was particularly celebrated by Denise Huskins - a survivor of kidnapping, rape, false police allegations and widespread media misogyny. To repeat a passage:

"I just saw that there is a petition to cancel her set at the festival, and it deeply disturbs me that people continue to vilify someone who has overcome so much and who has been proven innocent over and over again.

Her show is a beautiful representation of comedy meeting tragedy; displaying a philosophical and intellectual real-life description of how trauma follows us despite our determination to create a purpose and meaning with our lives beyond it."

Bearing in mind that nobody who has actually seen the show seems to share anything close to your opinion - that it "belittles the issue of violence against girls and women" - do you have any regret in making this allegation against this particular survivor?

Can you explain in what particular, harmful ways you feel that the show "mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher"? Based on the actual content of the show rather that your assumptions, please.

In your professional role, do you coach victims of the patriarchy on the "proper and permissable" ways in which they may process their trauma, and try to ensure they don't have access to vehicles for doing so that you deem to be ill-advised?

And on what basis have you determined her performance is "probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either" - particularly as someone with no apparent familiarity with the actual contents of the show and presumably does not know Knox?

Do you find there to be anything ironic about, absent relevant fact (i.e. the content of the show) rushing to judgment to condem Amanda Knox of all people?

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:17

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 23:05

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases
What's your definition of "monetary gain", here? She'll almost certainly have made a loss on the show itself (almost all Fringe shows do - and that's before you add in international travel).

If you mean indirect monetary gain - any public activity that could indirectly contribute to financial gain - aren't you just giving family members of one victim a blank cheque to silence another?

Does it matter to you whether other victims find real value in being able to consume the media in question?

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 23:22

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 23:05

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

Again..it’s AK story not Meredith’s - I feel you can’t grasp this

I’ve never heard of a victim of MOJ being so unsympathetically treated - we should want to know what happened to her - not silence her

it will be cathartic for her to go on telling her story to as many people as possible

Im still aghast you are not practicing what you are preaching - you seem blind sided imv

when I think of all the MOJ in the UK I can’t imagine any of the victims family trying to silence the victim of the MOJ - as said before Rachel nickels family have openly apologised for their role in Colin staggs experience - I can’t think why Ak is seen as such a villain

11 and counting has given you a great response - put it much better than I can - I’m so astounded you are drawn in by all the propaganda around this when you say you complain for women and girls

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:24

A great day for the Amanda Knox fangirls.

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:26

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:24

A great day for the Amanda Knox fangirls.

Edited

Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 23:26

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:26

Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

just awful - sad day for women round the world

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:27

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:26

Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

Good for you. you stick up for your queen!

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:30

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:27

Good for you. you stick up for your queen!

Isn't there some sort of Andrew Tate fourm you could be posting on instead?

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:30

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · Yesterday 23:26

just awful - sad day for women round the world

it certainly is

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:31

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11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:33

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I've fed you enough, you shan't be getting any more from me.

BlackRowan · Yesterday 23:34

VivienneDelacroix · Yesterday 21:34

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

Edited

This second paragraph IS a false claim

because the show is NOT ABOUT THE MURDER

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:34

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BlackRowan · Yesterday 23:42

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:06

The show is not about the murder.

And the "circumstances following the murder" were an extremely fantastical, misogynistic prosection that victimized a woman, and a multicontitental, misogynistic media campaign (largely all built on -gasp- a woman having premarital sex and owning a vibrator , thus rendering her a satanic she-devil).

The vast majority of wrongful prosecutions will, naturally, follow a crime. One's that result in years behind bars and an international media furore will, naturally, arise from serious crimes.

The scale and extent of the misogyny that Knox suffered should never be forgotten - particularly due to the role of the international (and particularly, the British press).

Because the jury was not sequestered, they were able to consume all of the misogynistic reporting - and the prosecution further leveraged this by leaking unverified or outright false claims to the media, meticulously timed to build a public narrative of Knox as a manipulative, hyper-sexualized sociopath.

One of the often overlooked police strategies I think we would do well to remember - the police falsely told Knox that she had HIV (causing severe distress) in order to trick her into making a list of all of her past sexual partners (7, in total) which was then leaked to the media so that they could readily depict her as a sex-crazed man-eater. Something the British press gleefully participated in.

What happened to her is jaw-dropping, and genuinely reminiscent of 16th century witch trial, but on a scale that was larger by orders of magnitude.

As to comedy as the vehicle - well, for one its apparently less a comedy show and more a combination of her life story and a treatise against the patriarchy and its dangers, coupled with some gallows humor at her own expense (including her apparent "unlikeability").

As posted earlier in the thread, the show was particularly celebrated by Denise Huskins - a survivor of kidnapping, rape, false police allegations and widespread media misogyny. To repeat a passage:

"I just saw that there is a petition to cancel her set at the festival, and it deeply disturbs me that people continue to vilify someone who has overcome so much and who has been proven innocent over and over again.

Her show is a beautiful representation of comedy meeting tragedy; displaying a philosophical and intellectual real-life description of how trauma follows us despite our determination to create a purpose and meaning with our lives beyond it."

Bearing in mind that nobody who has actually seen the show seems to share anything close to your opinion - that it "belittles the issue of violence against girls and women" - do you have any regret in making this allegation against this particular survivor?

Can you explain in what particular, harmful ways you feel that the show "mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher"? Based on the actual content of the show rather that your assumptions, please.

In your professional role, do you coach victims of the patriarchy on the "proper and permissable" ways in which they may process their trauma, and try to ensure they don't have access to vehicles for doing so that you deem to be ill-advised?

And on what basis have you determined her performance is "probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either" - particularly as someone with no apparent familiarity with the actual contents of the show and presumably does not know Knox?

Do you find there to be anything ironic about, absent relevant fact (i.e. the content of the show) rushing to judgment to condem Amanda Knox of all people?

I remember I just moved to the UK recently then so had no experience with British press. The press coverage was absolutely shocking. I was just stunned.

it all seemed incredibly unprofessional and none of the theories of prosecution made any sense.

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:45

AsHot · Yesterday 20:46

In your post at 19.18 you asked people to fact check, then went on to say it seemed it didn't happen. Quotes below:

Everyone please fact check this...it seems unlikely they would risk violence against an American student

Either of those points would be fine on their own, but not in combination. We can stick to things we're certain about, or we can have opinions without concrete evidence and not tell other people to fact check.

The second part was obviously an opinion. As it is the opinion of many that just because Knox accused the police of hitting her it must be true.

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:48

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up. It's nearly 20 years since MK was murdered. Knox has been free for a long time. Is she going to be touring about this in her 80s? How many books and movies? It's just too much imo.

Shloopie · Yesterday 23:50

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:48

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up. It's nearly 20 years since MK was murdered. Knox has been free for a long time. Is she going to be touring about this in her 80s? How many books and movies? It's just too much imo.

It's a money spinner. People's prurient obsession with true crime ensures it will provide a steady income stream for her.

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:53

SpaceRaccoon · Yesterday 21:01

No, the knife thing was another bullshit claim by the prosecution. There was a claim that Meredith's DNA was on a knife that was in his apartment, but during the exoneration trial, retesting found none of her DNA on the blade, just Amanda's on the handle.

Raffaele Sollecito did acknowledge having a personal passion and collection of knives and swords when questioned by authorities. During his early cautionary arrest hearings and statements to magistrates and investigators, he mentioned that he had collected knives and unsharpened katanas (swords) as a hobby since he was young. 1, 2]

STUPID POLICE MISSED MY KNIFE

A telephone call between Meredith murder suspect Raffaele Sollecito and his father revealed the 23-year-old carries a knife.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stupid-police-missed-my-knife-520359

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:57

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:45

The second part was obviously an opinion. As it is the opinion of many that just because Knox accused the police of hitting her it must be true.

is the opinion of many that just because Knox accused the police of hitting her it must be true
I don't think that's an honest statement of anyone's position.

My own view is that I believe the allegations on balance, because of the policy's overall conduct - human rights violations, astounding episodes of calculated dishonesty, and an illegal refusal to investigate the allegations (ensuring there could never be any evidence).

Indeed, had the police not carried out their interrogation illegally, there would be conclusive evidence, one way or another.

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