Jabs to lose 1.5 stone?

[torquayturkey]

I’m 5’7 and feel my best when I’m between 10.5-11st. A couple of years ago I had a really bad time with my mental health (ended up sectioned) and lost 3 stone, making me 9st and I looked too thin. I’m much better now and I’ve gained 3st - I’m now 12st 4 and feel disgusting.

is it worth trying a GLP-1 to lost the 1-2 stone? I’m mainly worried about the side effects eg vomiting and stomach pains. What is everyone’s experience? Thank you.

You have disordered eating.

You get ‘hangry’ because you are not fuelling your body enough. You are misusing weight loss drugs to hide the fact that your body is screaming & shouting at you that it needs more fuel.

honestly you are being really silly and will likely cause yourself long term health problems

Just to counter some misinformation on here. I have a serious mental illness, the medication makes me fat. I’ve been prescribed the Wegovy pill by a reputable provider (Boots) who had full disclosure and oversight of my medical needs.

But maybe she’s not seeing it as a “diet”, it was the weekend. Not everyone does the concept of “treat” food which can in itself be an unhealthy mental concept. I’m not on a diet, I’m just taking MJ. I eat whatever my family eats. Sometimes it’s salad, sometimes it’s cheese burgers.

I had the Chinese on day one, same day as first injection, as I honestly didn’t think it would kick in until at least the day after.

I ate much less than normal, half the boiled rice and about a third of the main dish. It wasn’t a battered dish and the sauce was more like a gravy and not sugary. After eating I realised that I was very full and stopped myself from having more.

Day two was unavoidable and I watched portion sizes.

Since this was my first time I didn’t want to take it any later than Friday as I didn’t want side effects on Monday when back at work.

next week I will probably jab on Thursday evening as I now know what to expect.

Thanks for everyone’s input.

oh and my normal weigh in is today and I have lost 1.5 pounds in the past week. Some probably down to Mounjaro but I was dieting before as well.

I did it and it's worth it. No side effects. Didn't have to lie - there are clinics that do microdosing for people who aren't overweight. For me my weight had crept up over peri and menopause, and I just couldn't lose it.

Leaving aside that no, I wouldn't take medication if I was only in the overweight BMI range, I'm always amazed at how few calories some people eat and still don't lose.

I'm someone that puts on weight quite readily, but I'm losing around 1kg a week at about 1500/1600 a day, and I'm in peri. Apparently I must be quite lucky then?

@torquayturkey
your weight history is very similar to how mine was before starting WLI 11 weeks ago.
At 5ft 7.5 and in my late 50s weight was slowly creeping up and harder to control.
I had hit 12st 12lb over the past winter managed to get a few pounds off myself but was stuck at 12st 7 and constantly snacking on all the wrong things despite eating pretty healthy at meal times.
I felt podgy bloated clothing tight and no energy at that weight.
Finally took the plunge ordered Wegovy ( off label ) as my BMI was only just under 28. However I’ve also had raised cholesterol for a couple of years though not on medication for it so that helped my initial application.
Pretty straight forward first order Med Express (look for discount first orders to keep costs down )

Im now on 3rd pen (shop around each time I’ve ordered from different pharmacies )
However I’m taking a slow steady approach now only on 0.5mg dose on week 11.
very little side effects for me as this is still a low dose. I still have appetite for meals but it helps curb snacking in between meals and helps my choices of foods to stick with better nutritional choices.
Weight loss so far 17lbs I’m now weighing 11st 4lb and feeling much more comfortable in my skin and clothing.
Like you I didn’t have a large amount to lose nor do I want to go too low (below 11st doesn’t look good on me)

Its worked for me so far and was giving myself roughly 6 months to see how it progressed.
Im hoping to eventually titrate down dosage to wean off in the future.
Good luck

I had no side effects. Lost 3st effortlessly in a few months. Have kept it off for over a year now. Turns out it's much easier to maintain a weight than to lose it! Go for it.

So many people ignoring the OP’s previous serious mental health issues. OP you really need to disclose this to the prescriber and possibly your GP and discuss the potential impact on mental health versus the weight loss benefits. I can definitely cause mood changes in some people.

I’m not hangry. Never ever ever. There isn’t a single time that I get even hungry, that’s the point I was making. The Mounjaro isn’t hiding that, it is keeping food in my body for longer and balancing my blood sugar so I don’t crave more and unhealthy foods. If I were to feel hungry I would immediately have a protein snack, I have many of them in my fridge for these situations.

I am on the lowest dose of Mounjaro, I speak regularly with my clinician, and everything in my body is working as intended. My protein is high as I eat chicken with almost every meal, and I am quite a muscular person so not frail with no muscle mass.

There is no disordered eating at all, I’m firmly in control. For example when I went on holiday I ate more and didn’t count calories, someone with disordered eating wouldn’t be able to switch it on and off.

I eat in line with accepted guidance, I am at the extreme end of it, but I am absolutely safe. The first 6 weeks I was eating 850 calories max, the second 6 (excluding holiday) I was eating 850-1000. There is guidance that allows for 800 calorie diets for 12 weeks and I have not been as low as that 🤷‍♀️. Once I’ve been on my next holiday (where I will eat as I wish and not jab) I’ll look at switching to 1200 a day (which will be hard as I do not get hungry but I can just add something with high calories that is low volume), which is the bottom end of the recommended calories, and not at all unhealthy in any way.

I’m relatively young so my body is allowing the fat to be lost, there is no issue with my thyroid or any menopause issue slowing down my metabolism, so it is coming off quickly. I WFH and rarely leave my house and so my lifestyle is extremely sedentary and does mean I need fewer calories to keep my body working.

Also, respectfully, don’t tell someone they have disordered eating when you know nothing about them. Don’t tell them their attitudes to food are silly, and don’t tell them they are setting themselves up for health problems. I am meticulous about what I eat and whether or not things healthy, I constantly check and ensure I have enough vitamins and protein, and I know that my health is improving. I have more energy not less, and I am doing this sensibly even if it is on the extreme end of sensible.

Wow that was a quick suppression then.

A tip if you find yourself feeling sick quick soon after the jab, do it on the evening before bed and sleep through most of it. That’s what I do, I saw someone else recommend it and it seemed like a great idea.

good luck on your loss.

That is not a lot of weight to lose via diet and exercise. These jabs, they shouldn’t be accessible to everyone, especially people who aren’t diabetic or morbidly overweight. We do not know the long term implications of them, but abuse of these jabs can quickly follow, leading to prolonged starvation even if you do not look ‘underweight’ hair loss, wobbly teeth, hormone issues.

These jabs should be a last resort, for people who have tried other options and been repeatedly unsuccessful or who are so overweight they need to lose weight quickly for their health. Not a quick fix for someone slightly overweight.

I think that’s quite normal. The ones on super low calories that don’t lose are the exception, they likely have thyroid or another issue that is impacting them.

That’s not the impact thyroid or any other issue causes, they will be under estimating their calories

I think this as well. Those apps aren't an exact science. I weigh/measure everything and have set up a spreadsheet so I can track accurately.

Yeah that too…there are a massive amount of calories in some things…I put my sandwich on the scales before putting my mayo on. It was insane how many calories of mayo I used in a tuna mayo sandwich before

The other thing I wonder about it whether they grab the number from the front of a packet without realising that the packet that should be 1 serving has weirdly been marked as 2…bachelors noodle packets for example are 2 servings but who is going to half that for their tea

Tbf clinical studies show that even registered dieticians who are tasked with recording their own calorie intake for two weeks, knowing they'll be tested on it, have a tendency to underestimate by a surprisingly high margin - it's just genuinely difficult to be accurate. Food manufacturers are allowed a margin of error when they give calorie info too, as do restaurants.

How do you know that the OP hasn't tried diet and exercise?
There's an awful lot of people spinning their wheels to stay 'just' overweight and no gain further. My own experience of being overweight was with a background of ten years of strength training, doing a sport on top of that three times a week, constantly trying to eat under a calorie limit, and batch cooking/meal prepping.
What I've found using wegovy, is that to actually lose - slowly, less than 1lb a week on average - I have to average around 1300 calories a day. Without wegovy I was struggling to stay under 1700, often a bit higher, and gradually gaining. With the jabs I've stuck to below that calorie limit for four months, to lose 12lb so far. Yet you're telling me that I should just be able to lose that amount with diet and exercise?

It's really frustrating when other people decide that it's really easy to lose weight if you just 'put a bit of effort in'. It might be easy to lose a stone if you're very overweight or very sedentary and have lots of things you haven't tried yet. But for many of us there's not much left to cut.

I've been very open with my loved ones about using mounjaro, and about the fact that for me it's been really effortless. No hard work required in the slightest. And a friend made the good point that actually the environment we live in is SO obesogenic, it makes perfect sense that we'd need the help of something that isn't natural in order to lose weight.

Really got me thinking. She's right that the environment most of us live in is really set up for gorging and putting weight on. Cheap affordable food, most of us can afford more food than we really need and therefore put weight on. We live near shops and can easily access any food we want at pretty much any time or our choosing. Many foods are manufactured in order to be hyper appealing, the exact right balance of sugar, fat and salt to make it compulsive to keep going.

When you compare it to how humans used to live thousands of years ago, you'd have to expend quite a lot of energy to access food to begin with, it was limited, dependent on what was around. There simply wouldn't have been enough to overeat regularly, and social pressure to make sure it went around the group. I'm confident our ancestors would have been obese too if they'd had access to Doritos 24/7.

I never felt any shame around using mounjaro to lose weight but it's a helpful thing to remember for those that do. We're in an artificial environment our evolution hasn't really caught up to yet. So no reason not to use an artificial solution to tackle it.

Yes I agree that there are some people who are normal weight that use it to lose a few pounds.

I am obese and have tried dieting for a few years without success. I have been to slimming world and followed their diet religiously but still didn’t lose much weight. I have also calorie counted and weighed everything and still struggled.

now I have a suspected health issue my gp has told me to get on Mounjaro to lose the weight faster.

Just do it op, of course you could do it with diet and exercise, or you could make it really easy instead by using Mounjaro.
If you are bothered by other people’s opinions don’t tell them about the jabs, people can be really Jealous/judgmental.

If you use your comprehension skills you’ll see at no point did I assume the OP wasn’t in that situation.

And also for the vast majority of people that’s simply not true. Weight loss for most people, excluding health and hormonal reasons, is a case of input and output. If you use more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. And yes, I apply this to myself as perimenopausal woman with PCOS who is able to drop ‘just 12lb’ by following this.

She asked a question, I gave a response based on my understanding of the drug. If she, like you, fall into the category of having tried everything else and it isn’t working (as stated in my original comment), then the jabs are an option. But I stand by the fact they shouldn’t ever be considered for a small amount of weight as a first or even second option.

Wow, revelatory news that we all just need to eat less and move more. I'm sure no one had thought of that before, we can close the thread now you've educated us all with your superior wisdom.

You’re welcome.