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AIBU to think my sister is overreacting about our drinking?

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ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:07

Just after some outside opinions because I'm genuinely not sure whether my sister has a point or whether she's being overly judgemental.

DH and I have been together since university and are now in our early 50s. We have two sons. Our eldest has just finished university and starts a graduate scheme in investment banking in London in a few weeks. Our youngest gets his A-level results in a couple of weeks and, hopefully, will be applying to study Economics and Maths and will be going to university sept 2026 after taking a gap year travelling. He plans to go after Christmas and is using money we saved for him to spend on whatever he wanted, he’s chosen to go travel all over South America solo we plan to meet him in a few countries.

DH retired early a couple of years ago. He's not old enough to draw his private pension yet, but we'd planned well financially and he reached the point where he simply didn't need to work anymore. I still work two days a week because I enjoy it.

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink. Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

Life has changed recently though. Our boys are adults now and quite rightly have their own lives. They both have girlfriends, they're building their own futures and we've naturally had to take a bit of a back seat as parents. That's exactly how it should be, and we're proud of them, but it does mean our lives are much quieter than they were when they were younger.

In a few weeks our eldest will move into London for work, and next year our youngest will head off travelling before university, so it'll just be the two of us most of the time. We actually like each other's company and have always enjoyed going out together, so that's never worried either of us.

The issue is this. My sister stayed with us for a long weekend recently. One evening we had friends over for dinner. We opened wine while I was cooking and everyone had a couple of glasses over the course of the evening. The next night we went to the pub with friends and I had three glasses of wine over several hours while DH had a couple of pints and a whisky. The following evening we stayed in, cooked dinner together and shared a bottle of wine while watching a film.

A few days after she'd gone home she rang me and said she was actually worried about us. She said she'd noticed we seemed to drink every day and thought we'd normalised alcohol to an unhealthy extent. She even used the word "alcoholics", which completely took me aback. I’ve said to her we just like having fun, we aren’t drinking at 8am every morning, we aren’t arguing, we like good alcohol that’s all and we don’t really have any responsibilities.

The thing is, she's not entirely wrong that we drink most evenings. If I'm not commuting into London the next day I'll often have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. If I'm off the following day we might share a bottle. If we're out with friends we'll drink then too.

Neither of us has ever missed work because of drinking. We don't drink in the mornings, don't hide alcohol, don't become unpleasant after drinking and we can easily go without if one of us is driving, we're travelling somewhere or we're doing something where drinking isn't appropriate.

My sister barely drinks herself. She might have a glass of prosecco at Christmas or a wedding and that's about it, so perhaps her idea of normal is very different from ours.
DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together. He says we're not neglecting anyone or anything because there really aren't many day-to-day responsibilities anymore.

I wasn't worried until she said it, but now I'm wondering if we've drifted into drinking so regularly that we've stopped noticing it.

AIBU to think she's overreacting?

OP posts:
Hildegard25 · 04/08/2026 11:37

TwisterSpice · 03/08/2026 14:38

Read ALL of OPs posts

FFS how ingenuous,

Is that all you ever say.
Please have the courtesy to assume they all do, and just because their views do not align with yours does not make them or me unable to read all the posts.
People just differ in their views and responses.

TwisterSpice · 04/08/2026 13:24

Hildegard25 · 04/08/2026 11:37

FFS how ingenuous,

Is that all you ever say.
Please have the courtesy to assume they all do, and just because their views do not align with yours does not make them or me unable to read all the posts.
People just differ in their views and responses.

You think they read all of OPs posts before commenting “Your sister seems OTT, seems like a convivial couple of days but nothing crazy”

Really? The subsequent posts as OP got drunker and drunker and admitted she was lonely, can’t think of a life without drinking and her husband is insane, crazy and doesn’t shag her unless they’re both pissed?

Doesnt seem like they did does it?

TheAmberKoala · 04/08/2026 14:10

OonaStubbs · 02/08/2026 16:25

At least you have to make a special effort, go through a separate door, and wait along with the other people who have gone there specifically to buy alcohol.

We also have drive through bottle-os. Make it make sense.

Isitevensummer · 04/08/2026 16:19

Papster · 02/08/2026 21:22

Interestingly 28 was the old limit for men and 21 for women.
I did some comms work for the Dept of Health and the precise figures had no scientific basis - they made them up because they needed some numbers and they sounded reasonable.
14/14 has come from more research and the requirement to equalise men and women. And there is evidence alluded to here that more than that, paced over the week puts your health at risk. It’s up to you whether the risk is worth it in terms of your QoL definitions.
In international terms we’re in the middle, with some outliers that say you shouldn’t drink at all because it’s harmful.
It was only in the 1960s that French kids stopped having wine with lunch at school!

Edited

The WHO says any alcohol is unhealthy. The 14 units guideline is designed to minimise harm.

willowthecat · 04/08/2026 16:31

I think unfortunately she might have a point . If you are not having alcohol free days and you are not really thinking about keeping your drinking under 14 units, it will impact on your cardiovascular system and your liver. I was drinking less than you but couldn't get my blood pressure down. I cut back drastically and my BP dropped like a stone. It's not easy but try to have a think if there is a way you can start to cut down. Don't have a mindset that life is no fun without wine.

CocksBolingey · 04/08/2026 16:40

You don’t need to justify or explain your lifestyle to anyone, sister included.
If you’re both happy, that’s all that matters.
Life is too short to be anything else! ☺️

RampantIvy · 04/08/2026 16:47

CocksBolingey · 04/08/2026 16:40

You don’t need to justify or explain your lifestyle to anyone, sister included.
If you’re both happy, that’s all that matters.
Life is too short to be anything else! ☺️

If you read all of the OP's posts it is clear that she does drink too much and she isn't happy.

Hildegard25 · 04/08/2026 18:30

TwisterSpice · 04/08/2026 13:24

You think they read all of OPs posts before commenting “Your sister seems OTT, seems like a convivial couple of days but nothing crazy”

Really? The subsequent posts as OP got drunker and drunker and admitted she was lonely, can’t think of a life without drinking and her husband is insane, crazy and doesn’t shag her unless they’re both pissed?

Doesnt seem like they did does it?

I think most do, but what is annoying is the "Read ALL of OPs posts", instead of constructively commenting.

Well! That definitely is the lazy easy option to reply to people who have a difference of opinion.

I might use it sometime, NOT

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink.

Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together.

They seem very happy in their lifestyle, at least they did until sister put in her unasked for opinion.

MyDarlingRose · 04/08/2026 18:46

Waitingforgod26 · 04/08/2026 10:22

I actually associate alcholism very much with the middle classes and social scramblers, but perhaps that's because I pay attention 😎

I think it was supposed to show how very functional they are, so they couldn't possibly be drunks.

But I actually don't think any of it's real. Her later posts seem very much like someone pretending to be drunk, performative nonsense. I think she was just bored, making up stories.

What is a social scrambler?

Waitingforgod26 · 04/08/2026 22:37

MyDarlingRose · 04/08/2026 18:46

What is a social scrambler?

One who is terribly keen on upward social mobility, trying to scramble up the ladder of social class, or hang on grimly tooth and nail to their new status (as they see it). It's mainly seen in the middle classes. Think of Hyacinth Bucket, who had managed to move up from working class to middle class and was desperate to distance herself from the working class values and culture she grew up with. It was a funny concept because it was so true.

EvieBB · 05/08/2026 02:31

SeeMeRun · 03/08/2026 07:49

I only really drink when I go out, which is perhaps once a month on average. I rarely drink in house and only have 4-5 drinks max when I do get drunk.
I personally think it’s odd that people drink so much in their own house. I have a lot of friends who’ll drink nearly every night as they open wine with their tea - my own parents have wine a couple nights a week but I have never understood the appeal.
I think they people like that do have an addiction because they can’t actually choose to stop drinking (they say ‘I don’t want to’ but really, they can’t) It’s normalised as having fun, or relaxing, so they don’t see it as a big deal.
also so many get drunk or incapacitated in their own house while the kids are there. I find that odd also. I wouldn’t like to be under the influence while I had to look after my kids.

I don't find it odd. It's just an addiction

MySneakyLion · 05/08/2026 10:07

pouletvous · 02/08/2026 08:01

You’re my age but your life sounds like my parents who are genuinely retired and in their 70s

are you going to spend the next 30-40 years living like this?

If they keep drinking to these levels it’s very unlikely she will still be here in 30 years frankly.

Teddybear23 · 05/08/2026 11:12

BeanNaGealai · 01/08/2026 22:18

If you’re drinking every night and going well above the recommended limits, you’re definitely not doing yourselves any favours. Recommendations state 3 alcohol free days as well as the weekly limits and not binge drinking. I can’t remember what constitutes binge drinking but it’s surprisingly low.

I don’t think it’s any harm exceeding the limits occasionally but doing it every week could have negative effects on your health long term.

Years ago I read a medical journal that stated the recommended number of units per week for male and females was a number just made up, i.e. no actual medical or scientific evidence to prove anything. Therefore, I go by my blood test results and general health and wellbeing to monitor what I drink.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/08/2026 11:38

Crunchymum · 03/08/2026 16:36

Blimey, that escalated quickly!

The OP went from 'middle class, socially acceptable drinker' to incoherent drunk in the space of one evening.

If this is actually a real thread then the OP has a lot to unpick. She isn't a lay-down-in-the-gutter-black-out-drunk (yet) but nobody starts out that way!!!

I have a feeling it was a wind up - it all seemed rather ‘staged’ - the stumbling into drunken. -because more than once on Saturday night I’ve had several large glasses of wine and managed an extremely coherent response post on mumsnet - no one would actually know I had a few- if it was perchance genuine , then OP clearly needs to know her limits and cut down somewhat

Lentilcakes · 05/08/2026 12:21

That’s a lot more than the upper limit of 14 hours a week. You sound like an educated woman so you know the risks around this yet chose to drink to excess. No-one needs to drink while cooking of an evening.
I don’t drink anymore but even when I did I had maybe 1-5 units per week and some weeks didn’t drink at all. Maybe v occasionally have a blow out at a party.
There is a lot of socialising you can do that doesn’t involve alcohol! Am a similar age as you so I know this 😂

RampantIvy · 05/08/2026 12:30

Therefore, I go by my blood test results and general health and wellbeing to monitor what I drink.

I don't regularly have blood tests, and I don't suppose most people do. Our GP only refers people for blood tests if they feel they need them.

@Teddybear23 are you in the UK or do you have a private GP? Or is there another reason why you have regular blood tests?

PeanutCat1 · 05/08/2026 13:10

I think it really just depends, I grew up with parents who usually always enjoyed a glass of wine most evenings and that seems very normal to me, they still do in their sixties but not religiously every evening, they could take it or leave it and it don’t personally think it’s a problem.

That said, for me I personally wouldn’t enjoy drinking every evening neither me or my husband really drink aside from the odd social occasion and that’s how we like it, many of our friends are very similar actually. We’re 31 + 34 for reference.

Are you drinking every single day?
Would it cause you to feel stressed if you didn’t have a drink one evening?/ do you feel like you need it to relax after the day?
Are either of you drinking over 14 units a week?

if the answer to any of the above is yes then I think it’s a problem and your sister is right to be a bit concerned.

PeanutCat1 · 05/08/2026 13:16

I can’t edit my comment but I just caught up & realised my whole comment is irrelevant so please ignore, there’s obviously some issues.

Isitevensummer · 05/08/2026 15:35

Teddybear23 · 05/08/2026 11:12

Years ago I read a medical journal that stated the recommended number of units per week for male and females was a number just made up, i.e. no actual medical or scientific evidence to prove anything. Therefore, I go by my blood test results and general health and wellbeing to monitor what I drink.

Yes-it was arbitrary And unfortunately many people took any limit to mean it was safe to drink below that amount, However the guidance actually states that there is no safe level of alcohol consumption-any guidelines are for harm reduction

MySneakyLion · 05/08/2026 15:41

I can’t see any point in posting any more really folks, the OP @ByJollyQuailhasn't been back since the first night when she was drunk on her own.

If by any tiny chance you’re still reading this OP, I hope you get help and reduce your excessive drinking for the sake of your health.

Dryrobe45 · 06/08/2026 18:58

Dryrobe45 · 02/08/2026 12:48

I would assume

I’ve just realised most of my post is missing! What I had intended to say, was I assume that your sister is concerned with the health risks of your level of alcohol consumption rather than your behaviour.
In your original post you mention lots of visible traits of drinking that you’re managing fine with (e.g. not being aggressive, holding down a job, functioning in life) but you make no mention of the invisible effects on your liver, brain, and health in general. I’m afraid that at some point those effects will become quite serious.
But, you’re a grown up and if you’re completely aware of all the downsides to drinking too much alcohol and you still want to do it, that’s your call. I don’t think you can be upset with your sister for pointing out the obvious risks though.

Donsyb · 06/08/2026 22:59

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:23

Yes we are aware of the risks

Yet you don’t seem to think they apply to you?

All health guides say you shouldn’t drink every day. I like a drink (my DP would probably say a bit too much!), but don’t drink every day unless we’re on holiday. I try and keep it to no more than 2-3 nights a week.

EvieBB · 07/08/2026 02:05

Donsyb · 06/08/2026 22:59

Yet you don’t seem to think they apply to you?

All health guides say you shouldn’t drink every day. I like a drink (my DP would probably say a bit too much!), but don’t drink every day unless we’re on holiday. I try and keep it to no more than 2-3 nights a week.

Good for you. Some people are addicts..
It's not a character flaw.

Donsyb · 07/08/2026 07:41

EvieBB · 07/08/2026 02:05

Good for you. Some people are addicts..
It's not a character flaw.

The OP asked the question - I’m just answering it! If she doesn’t want to hear it, she shouldn’t have asked!

EvieBB · 07/08/2026 08:23

Donsyb · 07/08/2026 07:41

The OP asked the question - I’m just answering it! If she doesn’t want to hear it, she shouldn’t have asked!

Sorry I didn't mean to offend you and I agree with what the crux of what you're saying ....and I'm not necessarily even directing my reply at you - but at the many many people on here who've added and are still adding to the pile on. I think she's had a sufficient bashing. She'll be long gone by now if she's got any sense as it will only be bringing her even further down and it will drive her to drink even more :( !
I just wanted to readress the balance and show her some compassion if she is still here. Addiction is a horrible disease and it doesn't mean she's a bad person. She needs help, not a bashing.