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AIBU to think my sister is overreacting about our drinking?

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ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:07

Just after some outside opinions because I'm genuinely not sure whether my sister has a point or whether she's being overly judgemental.

DH and I have been together since university and are now in our early 50s. We have two sons. Our eldest has just finished university and starts a graduate scheme in investment banking in London in a few weeks. Our youngest gets his A-level results in a couple of weeks and, hopefully, will be applying to study Economics and Maths and will be going to university sept 2026 after taking a gap year travelling. He plans to go after Christmas and is using money we saved for him to spend on whatever he wanted, he’s chosen to go travel all over South America solo we plan to meet him in a few countries.

DH retired early a couple of years ago. He's not old enough to draw his private pension yet, but we'd planned well financially and he reached the point where he simply didn't need to work anymore. I still work two days a week because I enjoy it.

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink. Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

Life has changed recently though. Our boys are adults now and quite rightly have their own lives. They both have girlfriends, they're building their own futures and we've naturally had to take a bit of a back seat as parents. That's exactly how it should be, and we're proud of them, but it does mean our lives are much quieter than they were when they were younger.

In a few weeks our eldest will move into London for work, and next year our youngest will head off travelling before university, so it'll just be the two of us most of the time. We actually like each other's company and have always enjoyed going out together, so that's never worried either of us.

The issue is this. My sister stayed with us for a long weekend recently. One evening we had friends over for dinner. We opened wine while I was cooking and everyone had a couple of glasses over the course of the evening. The next night we went to the pub with friends and I had three glasses of wine over several hours while DH had a couple of pints and a whisky. The following evening we stayed in, cooked dinner together and shared a bottle of wine while watching a film.

A few days after she'd gone home she rang me and said she was actually worried about us. She said she'd noticed we seemed to drink every day and thought we'd normalised alcohol to an unhealthy extent. She even used the word "alcoholics", which completely took me aback. I’ve said to her we just like having fun, we aren’t drinking at 8am every morning, we aren’t arguing, we like good alcohol that’s all and we don’t really have any responsibilities.

The thing is, she's not entirely wrong that we drink most evenings. If I'm not commuting into London the next day I'll often have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. If I'm off the following day we might share a bottle. If we're out with friends we'll drink then too.

Neither of us has ever missed work because of drinking. We don't drink in the mornings, don't hide alcohol, don't become unpleasant after drinking and we can easily go without if one of us is driving, we're travelling somewhere or we're doing something where drinking isn't appropriate.

My sister barely drinks herself. She might have a glass of prosecco at Christmas or a wedding and that's about it, so perhaps her idea of normal is very different from ours.
DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together. He says we're not neglecting anyone or anything because there really aren't many day-to-day responsibilities anymore.

I wasn't worried until she said it, but now I'm wondering if we've drifted into drinking so regularly that we've stopped noticing it.

AIBU to think she's overreacting?

OP posts:
Oldtigernidster · 02/08/2026 18:02

It’s absolutely none of her business.

YourLoyalPlumOP · 02/08/2026 18:03

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:11

What are retired folks supposed to do rather than enjoy life. We like nice things, we like going out and being social, we have a good group of friends who like being social so what’s the big deal.

An alcoholic isn’t someone who wakes up and dtinks

it is someone who couldn’t live without it

coiod you live without it? Could you go months without drinking easily?

YourLoyalPlumOP · 02/08/2026 18:04

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:32

I can’t even remember the last time we even had good sex sober.

Errr. Really???

really????

YourLoyalPlumOP · 02/08/2026 18:06

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:55

Well I have had a health checkup so has my husband it’s all good so far. Not saying it’ll always be good I know the amount we drink isn’t great but for us we like hosting things there isn’t much else for us to do

Could you go a few weeks or a months without drinking easily?

Glitterella · 02/08/2026 18:07

There is a definite trend in society away from drinking especially among the younger generation. And I suppose with it comes a lot more judgement from those who don’t drink.

Itsalittlebitwarm · 02/08/2026 18:08

I'm with you OP! I've always been very sociable and that involves drinking and at home me and DH like our wine 🍷

Some of us just do like a drink without being alcoholics! Could be classed as alcoholic dependent i guess but it's not getting drunk and we can easily go without.

The incentive to be healthy has become increasingly rhetoric, we're all aware, but personal choices exist. We eat healthily, exercise, are responsible, just enjoy a cold beer 🍺 and a nice glass of wine.

I also think as you get older and you lose friends and family, many of whom were fitness fanatics/sudden accident/sadly also murdered, life perspective changes.

YourLoyalPlumOP · 02/08/2026 18:08

ByJollyQuail · 02/08/2026 00:24

Gooodnjgt thanks fir soo the judgemt it’s not nice at all women should be kind to Ive ano rther

I’m honestly really saddened by this thread ….

BusyMum47 · 02/08/2026 18:09

@ByJollyQuail

Wow. I read your original post & thought your sister was being a bit over dramatic & your life sounded great but after reading all your follow ups, I’m now firmly of the opinion that she’s right - you sound like a couple of alcoholics in a deeply unhappy marriage.

2O26 · 02/08/2026 18:19

Sadly, new studies show that drinking increases cancer risks, and our bodies just don't process alcohol the same as we get older. 😮‍💨 Since these findings came out, I’ve noticed so many people cutting back and switching to 0% drinks instead!

RampantIvy · 02/08/2026 18:20

I don't think the OP is coming back. I suspect that some of the home truths have hit their mark.

Goatsarebest · 02/08/2026 18:27

BMW58 · 02/08/2026 15:34

Life expectancy was certainly NOT 48 in 1900!!!

You're confusing life expectancy with average age mortality, which is skewed by the huge number of infant deaths.

If a person got through infancy they could live to 70's and beyond since forever.
Victorian workhouses were chock full of old people - really old by our standards that is, not aged at 50!

Not sure if I'll go with you and your absolute certainty or WHO, the world experts in this area. They state 48. The median age which smooths out peaks on an average was 52 for males and 57 for females. But life expectancy as defined is what I said. So you are wrong. But it is skewed by high infant mortality for life expectancy, as defined.
So maybe consider this. Of all people who got to 10 years old (past the horrific infant mortality). How many then went on to get to 60?
1900 55 percent
2000 83 percent
Do those figures help with the point I was making.

wasieverreallyhere · 02/08/2026 18:36

ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:14

I got to an arts club once a week, we cycle, DH goes and plays golf with friends he usually goes at about 10am and doesn’t drink at that time.

That sounds normal

wasieverreallyhere · 02/08/2026 18:37

That sounds normal if you are doing stuff without deinking

wasieverreallyhere · 02/08/2026 18:37

That sounds normal if you are doing stuff without drinking

Goatsarebest · 02/08/2026 18:42

And I know the difference between average age at mortality and life expectancy and there's no confusion. In this case where the point being made that longer life times of alcohol misuse lead to more disease associated with alcohol use, life expectancy was the correct metric to use. Life expectancy is a predictive model where as AAM is retrospective and is skewed by population age. We have an aging population that skews AAM.
Anyway, enough stats.
The fact is. If you drink at these levels for a prolonged period of your life, you increase the risk of all sorts of disease and illness. All the known ones and particularly Wet Brain syndrome/dementia being a real risk that is often not considered.

Ponyfootymama · 02/08/2026 18:44

No idea if your drinking is out of control, but I’ve just listened to the John Robbins book called Thirst. It was very interesting and maybe worth a listen/read for anyone who drinks.
We aren’t really drinkers, no aversion to it but prefer a cup of tea lol.

BeddysMum · 02/08/2026 18:48

She may or may not have a point, but if it upset you then maybe just take a minute.

I have 2 alcoholic exes so I have a little experience to draw on here. Neither was an obvious alcoholic to the outside world, they were what you might call functioning alcoholics.

Neither of them drank at 8am, neither of them was an "unpleasant" drunk, if anything one was far more pleasant and fun! Neither missed work because of it nor hid alcohol.

The one thing they struggled with was to go without, but they were certain it was just "social" or to "relax" or help with stress or back pain. The list went on.

Addiction to alcohol was a slow and slippery slope for both of them and one "test" suggested to me was to politely and nicely suggest they not drink for one evening and see how they reacted and if they could do it.

Both got angry and defensive at the suggestion they might want to think about their consumption level or consider not drinking one or two nights a week.

Much as she might be annoying, it might also be a good moment to consider taking a break from alcohol, just to review things. Maybe get an outside opinion from a professional (not us schmucks on Mumsnet!) There's no harm, and you don't have to tell her! 😜

Addiction can creep up on you and as a nurse once told me, addicts always have a list of "logical reasons" as to why they're definitely not addicts!

Here's to your good health!

tomatoplants · 02/08/2026 18:56

What a sad read. I hope you’re ok OP. Please get some help

independentfriend · 02/08/2026 19:01

Menopause does interesting things to how the body processes alcohol. Given the age of your kids I'm assuming you're at least 45. It's worth an experiment of not drinking at all for a week to see how you feel.

Drinking less alcohol can be an exercise/ fitness thing rather than a problem-with-alcohol thing. You have the money to explore the low and no alcohol ranges of wines etc - you might find something you like there.

For sex, you can seek psychosexual counselling either from the NHS or voluntary or private sector. It's worth looking at the info on 'chem sex' as the problems are pretty similar between alcohol and other drugs. You can look at ways of making sober sex feel connected. In the interim you could maybe restrict alcoholic to those occasions you're wanting sex.

If you calculate your alcohol units and it's a high number, that's ok. Abruptly stopping is risky if you're at 10 units or more per day, but you can slowly wean down so that you can give yourself alcohol free days. But it's just a number. You're entitled to take the risks you want to take and to risk assess in a different way to NHS staff.

You will have a local NHS drugs and alcohol service - worth making contact with them for advice.

Moving house could be unsettling to your younger child - losing his 'home' as he's travelling / going to uni. He may well want to move back in post uni. There's also a chance your eldest will want to move back too if his job doesn't work out. Downsizing makes sense but maybe not quite yet. Depending on how your sons lives develop you may still be hosting Christmas for some years to come as they are unlikely to have space. Obviously that's different if you're ill / disabled in ways that mean you need to move to a more suitable property soon.

Kerensa70 · 02/08/2026 19:04

It sounds like a wonderful and blessed life! I think she is making inaccurate comparisons here. I’m a similar age and make an effort to have minimum 3 nights off alcohol but you said you like quality wine and I bet that makes a difference? Maybe try organic wine? Have your liver tested too? That might reassure you/motivate you to make some tweaks if needed.

BMW58 · 02/08/2026 19:13

Kerensa70 · 02/08/2026 19:04

It sounds like a wonderful and blessed life! I think she is making inaccurate comparisons here. I’m a similar age and make an effort to have minimum 3 nights off alcohol but you said you like quality wine and I bet that makes a difference? Maybe try organic wine? Have your liver tested too? That might reassure you/motivate you to make some tweaks if needed.

FFS

"Quality" wine makes absolutely no difference!!
Alcohol is toxic no matter how cheap or expensive!

And you obviously haven't read all the OP'S posts. She gets pissed and maudlin.

Please, PLEASE watch Rain In My Heart on BBC Iplayer.

ThatLilacTiger · 02/08/2026 19:16

Yeah you both drink too much and I can see why your sister would comment on it.

Minnie798 · 02/08/2026 19:17

Haven't read the full thread, just ops posts .
I'm with her sister on this, op and her husband drink too much and should cut down.

tomatoplants · 02/08/2026 19:19

Kerensa70 · 02/08/2026 19:04

It sounds like a wonderful and blessed life! I think she is making inaccurate comparisons here. I’m a similar age and make an effort to have minimum 3 nights off alcohol but you said you like quality wine and I bet that makes a difference? Maybe try organic wine? Have your liver tested too? That might reassure you/motivate you to make some tweaks if needed.

Did you read the posts?

YourTwinklyduck · 02/08/2026 19:27

It's not an over reaction, she is correct and her view is backed up by very well known medical advice. I am suprised at the reaction of many people here.

There is no safe amount, but 14 units a week is the advice, considered 'low risk'

They advise set limits have smaller drinks, lower alcohol drinks, don't use alcohol to rehydrate, drink water for every alcoholic drink.
Several alcohol free days are recommended each week.
Have soft drinks you like available at home.
Alcohol affects yout liver,heart brain and BP and increases risk of cancer of the breast,mouth,throat and oesophagus.

Your choice to decide whether you listen.

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