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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

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ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:00

saraclara · 01/08/2026 11:58

The Italian and French were pandering to the ignorant in their own countries. It was propaganda to appeal those voters being drawn to right wing parties, and nothing else. And they've been rightly criticised for it.

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Oh seriously get a grip! Nobody wants 60,000 men breaking into their country! Pandering…propaganda…. What a load of shite!

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:01

Violetdeparma · 01/08/2026 11:57

@Flyingintotheunknown concerned or confused ? If confused and the teams around them I think they should step down ?

Concerned

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:03

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:00

Oh seriously get a grip! Nobody wants 60,000 men breaking into their country! Pandering…propaganda…. What a load of shite!

That 60,000 will not be breaking into any mainland European countries, and never would have! They were literally one mile from where they were the day before. With no way of getting away from Ceuta.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:04

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:03

That 60,000 will not be breaking into any mainland European countries, and never would have! They were literally one mile from where they were the day before. With no way of getting away from Ceuta.

Again, the Italian and French governments are concerned enough to tighten their border security. I am not listening to some extreme leftist on MN!

RodneyKitten · 01/08/2026 12:05

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:03

That 60,000 will not be breaking into any mainland European countries, and never would have! They were literally one mile from where they were the day before. With no way of getting away from Ceuta.

Have you seen any of the interviews with them?

They do say they want to go to Spain for a better life and more money.

RodneyKitten · 01/08/2026 12:06

RodneyKitten · 01/08/2026 12:05

Have you seen any of the interviews with them?

They do say they want to go to Spain for a better life and more money.

And they have already broken into Ceuta.

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:07

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:04

Again, the Italian and French governments are concerned enough to tighten their border security. I am not listening to some extreme leftist on MN!

Extreme leftist?! I have no idea where you get that from 😂

I'm a retired teacher who gets wound up by ignorance. Right now I want geography to have a much higher priority in schools 😅

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:08

RodneyKitten · 01/08/2026 12:06

And they have already broken into Ceuta.

From where they're unable to reach mainland Spain.

Batrat · 01/08/2026 12:08

Na, nothing to be concerned about. This reminds me of those far right Anglo Saxons and Britons worried about 7000 Normans coming over in 1066.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:09

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:07

Extreme leftist?! I have no idea where you get that from 😂

I'm a retired teacher who gets wound up by ignorance. Right now I want geography to have a much higher priority in schools 😅

Oh how strange… because I remember way back in another thread where you said you were happy to sacrifice British women and children’s safety to accommodate those breaking into the UK via small boats! Yup I would say you definitely are an extreme leftist! Unfortunately I cannot take anything you say seriously after that!

Batrat · 01/08/2026 12:10

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:09

Oh how strange… because I remember way back in another thread where you said you were happy to sacrifice British women and children’s safety to accommodate those breaking into the UK via small boats! Yup I would say you definitely are an extreme leftist! Unfortunately I cannot take anything you say seriously after that!

That’s shocking, the far left are utterly wicked.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:11

Batrat · 01/08/2026 12:10

That’s shocking, the far left are utterly wicked.

Yup. The poster got her arse handed to her on that thread!

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:11

Link please.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:12

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:11

Link please.

Can’t remember the exact thread as I’ve been on loads but I absolutely took note of your username. You know exactly what you said… or are you in complete denial about that too… along with your other lefty views?

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:14

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:12

Can’t remember the exact thread as I’ve been on loads but I absolutely took note of your username. You know exactly what you said… or are you in complete denial about that too… along with your other lefty views?

Suprise surprise. You can't link to me saying that I would risk women and children's safety.

pointythings · 01/08/2026 12:14

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:00

Oh seriously get a grip! Nobody wants 60,000 men breaking into their country! Pandering…propaganda…. What a load of shite!

But 60,000 men aren't going to break into anyone's country. I know who needs to get a grip, and it's not the likes of me.

parallhel · 01/08/2026 12:15

Whoever is organising/co-ordinating this mass movement has more or less succeeded in polarising opinions so that the fundamental issue is ignored. Win for the traffickers and destabilisers, lose for everyone else really.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:15

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:14

Suprise surprise. You can't link to me saying that I would risk women and children's safety.

You know you said it so stop denying and stop gaslighting. I made a mental note of your username because your post was so disgusting! So you can deny and gaslight all you like! Have a nice day!

pointythings · 01/08/2026 12:16

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:09

Oh how strange… because I remember way back in another thread where you said you were happy to sacrifice British women and children’s safety to accommodate those breaking into the UK via small boats! Yup I would say you definitely are an extreme leftist! Unfortunately I cannot take anything you say seriously after that!

Also nobody is 'breaking into the UK via small boats'. People are crossing and claiming asylum, in accordance with the UN Convention on Refugees. The language you are using suggests a lack of good faith.

Oh, and both small boat crossings and immigration are substantially down. I wonder why the frothers on here seem unable to acknowledge that...

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:16

pointythings · 01/08/2026 12:14

But 60,000 men aren't going to break into anyone's country. I know who needs to get a grip, and it's not the likes of me.

Errrr they broke into Ceuta. And yes you need to get a grip!

Oh and btw, just how many have we had break into the UK over the last few years? Pretty sure it’s more than 60,0000!!

RodneyKitten · 01/08/2026 12:16

saraclara · 01/08/2026 12:08

From where they're unable to reach mainland Spain.

I cannot speculate on that.

I can only tell you what I heard them
say to various news outlets.

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 12:17

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:00

Oh seriously get a grip! Nobody wants 60,000 men breaking into their country! Pandering…propaganda…. What a load of shite!

Especially from north Africa

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:18

pointythings · 01/08/2026 12:16

Also nobody is 'breaking into the UK via small boats'. People are crossing and claiming asylum, in accordance with the UN Convention on Refugees. The language you are using suggests a lack of good faith.

Oh, and both small boat crossings and immigration are substantially down. I wonder why the frothers on here seem unable to acknowledge that...

I’m not listening to that daft claptrap sorry. They are breaking into the UK! Nice how you come on here to defend your lefty mate though who thinks it’s ok to sacrifice the safety of British women and children!

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 12:18

Every country has a right to control their border

pointythings · 01/08/2026 12:20

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 12:16

Errrr they broke into Ceuta. And yes you need to get a grip!

Oh and btw, just how many have we had break into the UK over the last few years? Pretty sure it’s more than 60,0000!!

Data here: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/

Whether or not it's more than 60,000 depends on how you define 'the last few years'.

The majority of the Ceuta surge have returned to Morocco. I really do wonder why you and yours don't want to believe that. You only seem to want to believe things that suit your agenda. BTW if you can provide evidence that the returns have not in fact happened, I would be interested to see them. But I won't be holding my breath.

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