AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

[ChirpyUmberBiscuit]

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

You’re very racist.

Actual statistics and hard data from Sweden indicates men of middles eastern, North African and Afghan backgrounds are significantly more likely to commit sex crimes. These are actual acts of actual violence, not possible, actual. Is that real enough for you?
Men (sex not gender) are way more likely 95%+ to commit sex crimes. Within that men from certain backgrounds commit, statistically, more sex crimes.

This is not theoretical. There are reasons the Scandinavian countries are hardening their stance on immigration.

I am outraged by all sex crimes, we need to do do our utmost to reduce these crimes. Can you think of a way we can reduce sex crimes? Perhaps removing those most likely to commit them perhaps?

I am outraged at them.

Was Rhiannon Whyte theoretical?

Facts don't care about your feelings

I don’t dispute the idea or fact that men that come from deeply misogynistic cultures are more likely to commit acts of sexual violence and/or do so. I do get pissed off when it’s used as a cover for racism because there’s nowhere near the same level of outrage when it comes to homegrown domestic and sexual violence.

What are you on about feelings? Must have sounded smart in your head.

What was so racist about what she said? Did her facts hurt your feelings?

But if they’re homegrown then how could anybody stop them being in the UK? We are putting people at risk, I simply want to know why. It’s the least I expect from a Government and is one of the core functions of a border.

If you are concerned about men committing acts of violence- especially against women - maybe you could show more just as much outrage about Brian doing it as you do about Mohammed. You would think it would be easier to do something about the men who are born here and grow up here, wouldn’t you? Surely we should have more control over what kind of person they turn out to be.

Maybe that’s what it’s all about. You’ve given up trying to do something about the homegrown abusers and rapists but throwing bricks at the foreign ones is pretty easy and does give you that nice feeling of things being under control.

Before David Lammy was removed he was trying to find a legal way to hide the number of crimes committed by illegal immigrants. If there is nothing to fear why hide the numbers of rapes, sexual assults and violent crime?

Why do we need to import more men from worse cultures who are more likely to abuse women?

lol what are you taking about ? I’m not throwing bricks at anyone. I don’t want to allow people who are likely to be a threat into the country, I don’t want to import cultures that are more likely to be a threat. I don’t know why anyone would want to just because there can also be homegrown issues. Odd mindset.

The you was not referring you Batrat, I was talking in general terms.

My point, for the last time:

People are choosing to vocally focus on “migrants committing acts of violence or being more likely to commit acts of violence” rather than homegrown domestic abusers and rapists because it’s just… easier. It’s a seemingly neat demographic that you can easily pont to and in theory deal with, by barring entry or deporting them.

Do they care about homegrown domestic abusers and rapists? Yeah, sure, they probably do, but those are much harder to deal with, aren’t they? Their culture is our culture, after all. And they can’t pick the bad ones out so easily because they look like their dad or brother.

Not to mention that when people are busy worrying about how immigrants are supposed to be ruining the country, they’re not considering the possibility that it’s in fact vast financial interests that are doing the ruining. It’s a tale as old as time.

Why is it so difficult to understand for some that when people move from another country they don’t loose the culture and attitudes that they have been accustomed too as normal

many countries, particularly Muslim countries that have stepped back from being progressive have very ridged societies. They are not teaching about other cultures and the positives of free thinking and individuality, religion isn’t taught as all religions are equal and to respect all religions and questioning their culture isn’t openly taught, spoken about or explored in the media

why would their attitudes, that are very often very negative towards western societies and in particular western women, change just because they are now in a western country

honestly when you live in a non progressive Muslim country you are confronted by these attitudes that are just the norm

Everybody is outraged when Brian commits an act of sexual violence. We want Brian charged and sentenced appropriately, and if he's ever released from prison the police will disclose his past to anybody with a legitimate interest in knowing what he's done. In all likelihood there are media reports online forever and Brian will find it difficult to lead a normal life again. Many people would actually like to see Brian executed.

Brian doesn't have the Labour Party covering up and downplaying his crimes, but Mohammed does. Brian doesn't have the apparatus of the state allowing more Brians to come here and systematically rape thousands of vulnerable girls, Mohammed does. Brian is almost certainly ostracised by his family when it becomes clear that he's a prolific child rapist, Mohammed isn't. Mohammed never needed to be here in the first place and all of his crimes were completely and utterly avoidable, we don't need to import any more Mohammeds and we don't need to go out of our way to facilitate more sexual voilence or create any more victims.

They can’t deport them or stop them entering the country, this is the bit you’re missing. The problems that have occurred because of mass immigration are obvious to everyone, people are furious so yes you’re getting certain groups and bad actors exploiting it. It’s subsequent governments who are to blame not anyone else.

Wow! Not even bothering to disguise your xenophobia even a little bit...

Oh fuck if with the racist card!! No longer works anymore and it’s lost its meaning! And for the record my kids are mixed race! What a stupid, meaningless, dumb ass post!

Also, if you think it’s “racist” please point out where I have mentioned skin colour! Get a bloody grip with the dumb ass woke leftist trope. It’s bloody old and boring now! And anyone who defends rapists and murderers like yourself is sick, vile, disgusting and evil! Racist indeed… what a cheap shot 🤣

Where have I mentioned skin colour???

Yet another stupid dumb ass leftist woke post! I stopped reading after I saw the words skin colour. Some people on this thread are absolutely delulu and will make up any old shit to twist things to suit their own narrative! Come back when you have a sensible argument apart from mentioning skin colour from your woke leftist text book!

You’re very racist against the white British people if you can defend rapists and murderers who kill and rape them! Sick 🤢

The uncomfortable truth is that Spain has a colony in Africa that it’s still holding on to - since the 17th century, Portuguese before that - and this Is the result.

Oh you think you’re dead smart with your dumb “racist” comment. Unfortunately it’s not the ‘gotcha’ you thought it were. Once worked in circa 2010 but it no longer works anymore and we won’t be gaslighted or silenced into submission by the leftist woke ideology and pulling the “racist” card. So nice try but I will carry on fighting for what I believe in. I couldn’t give a shit about your woke leftist ideology. means nothing now because the term racist has been thrown about by people like you.

Honestly, you can’t educate stupid. People have explained to that poster time and time again and they keep repeating the same lefty nonsense from the same lefty script of “oh well white people commit crimes anyway so immigrants committing them don’t matter”.

They will say absolutely anything to try and justify migrants coming here to commit rapes and so far on this thread, the excuses they have given to allow these migrants to come here are…

”well British people commit crimes anyway”

”where is the outrage when Brian commits an act of violence”

”Well climate change will cause them to come here”

”Tommy and Nigel”

”well the English colonised other countries”

”Migrants commit less crimes than British people”

”You’re very racist”

Honestly, it’s mind boggling. And anyone using those reasons to justify rapes and murders as a result of mass illegal migration are quite frankly, very sick individuals.

Is this after the Spanish give them helicopters and tapas?

So where are they getting the life jackets from then? Please enlighten us!