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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the recent influx of 30k+ undocumented arrivals in Spain?

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ChirpyUmberBiscuit · 31/07/2026 13:17

AIBU to feel really unsettled by the recent news coming out of Spain and Ceuta? Reports are showing that tens of thousands of undocumented migrants have crossed over in such a short window, completely overwhelming local infrastructure, reception centers, and security forces.

I know migration is always a sensitive and compassionate topic, but looking at these numbers practically, I don't see how any European border region can absorb 30,000 to 50,000 arrivals almost overnight without severe strain on public resources, local housing, and emergency services.

What worries me even more is the precedent it sets for the rest of Europe and the UK down the line. Surely there has to be a firm balance between humanitarian support and actual, enforceable border control?

Am I being completely unreasonable to view this as a serious policy and security crisis, or are others feeling equally concerned about where this leads?

Would love to hear honest thoughts on how this should actually be handled!

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ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:06

Climate change is the reason we need to flee - what about all the European wildfires then? No climate change?

Imanautumn · 01/08/2026 20:07

something2say · 31/07/2026 13:32

I think that the world is so unequal that people swarm to where they think it is better. Unless we resolve that, we are going to see a lot of this sort of thing.

It’s not our job to fix the world for everyone that’s impossible

Greenleavesandsunshine · 01/08/2026 20:08

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:02

That's so silly it's laughable.

It’s uncomfortable but true that men from countries like Afghanistan and Syria are way more likely to commit crimes of sexual violence. Look at the statistics from places like Sweden and Germany. The facts very much back up these opinions.

MaturingCheeseball · 01/08/2026 20:13

But still that poster will maintain that they would feel safer by themselves in a migrant detention centre than in, say, a golf club bar in Guilford.

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:16

Greenleavesandsunshine · 01/08/2026 20:08

It’s uncomfortable but true that men from countries like Afghanistan and Syria are way more likely to commit crimes of sexual violence. Look at the statistics from places like Sweden and Germany. The facts very much back up these opinions.

Well they'll just ignore this

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:17

Greenleavesandsunshine · 01/08/2026 20:08

It’s uncomfortable but true that men from countries like Afghanistan and Syria are way more likely to commit crimes of sexual violence. Look at the statistics from places like Sweden and Germany. The facts very much back up these opinions.

It's a huge mess. What is behind it all I wonder or who?

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:19

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:17

It's a huge mess. What is behind it all I wonder or who?

You wonder who or what is behind it? Mass migration from 3rd world countries who treat women as inferior citizens. Did you really need to ask?

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:21

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:19

You wonder who or what is behind it? Mass migration from 3rd world countries who treat women as inferior citizens. Did you really need to ask?

Where would someone rather their DD go on holiday, Switzerland or Sudan?

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:23

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:21

Where would someone rather their DD go on holiday, Switzerland or Sudan?

Definitely Switzerland if it was my DD

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:24

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:23

Definitely Switzerland if it was my DD

Obviously! Almost as if the men of Switzerland are different to the men of Sudan?

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:25

We have a large Sudanese population where I live. Where is this abuse of women and so on?
They seem like people to me.

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:26

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:19

You wonder who or what is behind it? Mass migration from 3rd world countries who treat women as inferior citizens. Did you really need to ask?

Yes, please tell.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:26

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:26

Yes, please tell.

Tell you what?

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:27

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:25

We have a large Sudanese population where I live. Where is this abuse of women and so on?
They seem like people to me.

Oh so these woman and children who have reported they have been raped are all making it up now? Talk about victim blaming.
You know what, you’re absolutely vile and disgusting! I thought maybe a bit delulu when I read that you thought climate change would be a good excuse for illegal migration, but it seems you’re making any excuse possible now to defend these criminals while gaslighting and dismissing people on this thread. Sick! 🤢

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:28

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:26

Tell you what?

Who or what is behind the " mass migration from 3rd world countries"

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:29

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:28

Who or what is behind the " mass migration from 3rd world countries"

Are you actually for real? 🤣

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:29

I am well aware that rape is used and hideous things go on there.

That does not mean every male from that country is a threat.

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:30

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:29

Are you actually for real? 🤣

OK will check in later to read your theory.

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:34

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:29

I am well aware that rape is used and hideous things go on there.

That does not mean every male from that country is a threat.

But there are more of a threat than a man from let's say Switzerland

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:38

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:30

OK will check in later to read your theory.

Yes please do. The only person with “theories” on here is you!

So far we have had “climate change is an excuse for illegal migration” and “rape victims are making it up” because there are Sudanese men who live in your area so you don’t see it. Make it make sense.
And “who’s behind the mass illegal migration” because it can’t possibly be those who have entered the UK illegally. 🙄

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:43

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:38

Yes please do. The only person with “theories” on here is you!

So far we have had “climate change is an excuse for illegal migration” and “rape victims are making it up” because there are Sudanese men who live in your area so you don’t see it. Make it make sense.
And “who’s behind the mass illegal migration” because it can’t possibly be those who have entered the UK illegally. 🙄

Edited

I said neither of the first 2 statements.

I am asking what forces are behind migration? Please? economic, historical, opportunists?
The great replacement?

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:47

bafta16 · 01/08/2026 20:43

I said neither of the first 2 statements.

I am asking what forces are behind migration? Please? economic, historical, opportunists?
The great replacement?

Well put it this way, those young men coming here on boats and leaving their wives and children behind are not coming here to flee war torn countries while passing through multiple safe countries to get here are they. So that would leave economic, opportunistic, criminals and those with an agenda (certainly not climate change 🤣). Or is that too complicated for you to understand?

Batrat · 01/08/2026 20:47

ShautyMels · 01/08/2026 20:34

But there are more of a threat than a man from let's say Switzerland

Yes and what exactly is the benefit to Britain of allowing this to happen? Is it because the people pushing for this don’t have to worry about their daughters as they live in areas where it’s not an issue.

Flyingintotheunknown · 01/08/2026 20:49

Batrat · 01/08/2026 20:47

Yes and what exactly is the benefit to Britain of allowing this to happen? Is it because the people pushing for this don’t have to worry about their daughters as they live in areas where it’s not an issue.

Until it becomes an issue when they have to be accommodated in their areas as nowhere else to put them. It will happen eventually and it is happening to some of these small villages now. These lefties will learn the hard way.

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