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AIBU to refuse to apologise after being blamed for family holiday?

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newchaptermummy · Yesterday 17:14

Hi everyone, I really need some outside perspective on a family situation because I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

My parents kindly paid for a family holiday abroad for us all (them, myself, my daughter "DD", my sister "DSIS", and her kids). The whole fallout on the holiday actually started because DSIS’s daughter ("Niece") was caught out in a lie about me. Rather than handling it sensibly, DSIS completely exploded. She spent the rest of the trip causing scenes, storming off, moving sunbeds away from everyone, and bad-mouthing people. She even started bad-mouthing my own child.

Despite how provoking and malicious that was, I refused to engage or react. I stayed completely unbothered, ignored the drama, and focused entirely on making sure DD had a great time playing in the pool (along with any other kids who joined us). The only thing I ever said to the kids was a simple suggestion to play nicely or find something else to play when they were bickering.

When we got home, my mum sent me a huge, scathing text dragging both me and DSIS into "two grown women acting like playground children" and accusing us of selfishly ruining the holiday for her and my dad. Mum said they were left with a big bill to pay, said they were done doing things for us, and told us we should both feel "totally ashamed" of ourselves.

I was heartbroken. I am nothing but supportive of my parents, constantly go out of my way to help them, and they even call my husband their son. I deliberately stayed out of the drama to keep the peace, yet I’ve been thrown under the bus as if I single-handedly ruined the trip. I even told them I’d pay back every penny of the holiday once my pay rise comes through later this year, as the cost is clearly being used as a weapon.

Since that initial text exchange, DSIS has offered a quick apology to Mum, and now everything is magically forgotten. Mum is expecting me to just apologize too and fall in line, completely sweeping under the carpet the outright insults, false accusations, and utter lack of support when my own child was being bad-mouthed. There has been zero recognition or acknowledgment of how unfairly I’ve been treated. I have tried reaching out to mum about how I feel and was ignored, and mum is now going on with our relationship as if nothing was said or done both on and after the holiday.

The easier thing to do would definitely be to move on, pretend it never happened, and ignore how deeply hurt I feel. But is that actually the right thing to do here? Or am I just accepting the role of family scapegoat?
AIBU to stand my ground and refuse to pretend this is all fine? How would you handle this?

OP posts:
OPTIMUMMY · Today 00:20

I would simply say I was sorry that the family holiday hadn’t worked out the way you all had hoped for, and that at least now you all know it’s not something to repeat, Don’t pay anything back, you didn’t ask to go on this holiday, they chose to pay for it and there’s no chance your sister will pay and she is the one most at fault by the sound of it.

Greengage1983 · Today 00:21

Bananacrepewithnuts · Yesterday 18:25

I feel sorry for your mum too. Must have cost them a bomb and her 2 daughters couldn't even get along for the duration.

You should both feel a bit shit about that.

This sort of attitude is absolutely toxic, and you will ruin relationships of your own if you hold to it throughout your life. Sometimes, one party is to blame and one party is innocent. You can't just "get on with" someone who is determined to cause drama. You can't "just get on with" someone who is being emotionally abusive. Holding both parties to account for the actions of just one of them is deeply toxic and if you do this in your own life, then people will be (justifiably) quietly seething with resentment towards you, even if they haven't mentioned it yet.

sheisforrealatiger · Today 00:27

BillieWiper · Yesterday 22:34

Stop allowing others to fund holidays you go on with people you don't get along with.

Go on holiday with who you like and pay yourself. Problem solved.

There you go OP, all you need is a time machine and “problem solved”. I might start posting this to everyone’s problems.

Viviennemary · Today 00:35

Sounds like you started the drama by sayng your niece told a lie. What was all that about. You all sound very childish and ungrateful and spoiled the holiday for your parents who paid. A poor show.

Friendlygingercat · Today 00:46

The very idea of big family get to-hethers (christmas, holidays, etc) fills me with dread. I never went on holiday with my family after the age of 16.

newchaptermummy · Today 01:46

Can’t find reply to quote now but this is in response to how my parents would react on holiday: No idea what was said to my sister when I was in the pool etc but to me it was always they are too old to be dealing with this kind of behaviour and we need to sort it out ourselves. It was mentioned to me away from sister that I am the mature one and should be doing more to stop such behaviour from sister. On one occasion when sister stormed out of the evening entertainment she claimed I had ignored her for ‘8 hours’ when I had been in the pool with her children all day (and mine obvs) and when I returned to the sun bed she stropped to the room. Dad said nothing and mum made it clear it wasn’t her problem essentially.

OP posts:
HenLen · Today 02:30

newchaptermummy · Yesterday 17:14

Hi everyone, I really need some outside perspective on a family situation because I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

My parents kindly paid for a family holiday abroad for us all (them, myself, my daughter "DD", my sister "DSIS", and her kids). The whole fallout on the holiday actually started because DSIS’s daughter ("Niece") was caught out in a lie about me. Rather than handling it sensibly, DSIS completely exploded. She spent the rest of the trip causing scenes, storming off, moving sunbeds away from everyone, and bad-mouthing people. She even started bad-mouthing my own child.

Despite how provoking and malicious that was, I refused to engage or react. I stayed completely unbothered, ignored the drama, and focused entirely on making sure DD had a great time playing in the pool (along with any other kids who joined us). The only thing I ever said to the kids was a simple suggestion to play nicely or find something else to play when they were bickering.

When we got home, my mum sent me a huge, scathing text dragging both me and DSIS into "two grown women acting like playground children" and accusing us of selfishly ruining the holiday for her and my dad. Mum said they were left with a big bill to pay, said they were done doing things for us, and told us we should both feel "totally ashamed" of ourselves.

I was heartbroken. I am nothing but supportive of my parents, constantly go out of my way to help them, and they even call my husband their son. I deliberately stayed out of the drama to keep the peace, yet I’ve been thrown under the bus as if I single-handedly ruined the trip. I even told them I’d pay back every penny of the holiday once my pay rise comes through later this year, as the cost is clearly being used as a weapon.

Since that initial text exchange, DSIS has offered a quick apology to Mum, and now everything is magically forgotten. Mum is expecting me to just apologize too and fall in line, completely sweeping under the carpet the outright insults, false accusations, and utter lack of support when my own child was being bad-mouthed. There has been zero recognition or acknowledgment of how unfairly I’ve been treated. I have tried reaching out to mum about how I feel and was ignored, and mum is now going on with our relationship as if nothing was said or done both on and after the holiday.

The easier thing to do would definitely be to move on, pretend it never happened, and ignore how deeply hurt I feel. But is that actually the right thing to do here? Or am I just accepting the role of family scapegoat?
AIBU to stand my ground and refuse to pretend this is all fine? How would you handle this?

Send every one of those involved a link to this thread.

Then shut down all communication until they start apologising and treating you like a human being.

And if they don't, let it stay shut down.

HenLen · Today 02:31

Viviennemary · Today 00:35

Sounds like you started the drama by sayng your niece told a lie. What was all that about. You all sound very childish and ungrateful and spoiled the holiday for your parents who paid. A poor show.

Edited

Oh, it looks like your sister already found the thread 😆

HenLen · Today 02:32

newchaptermummy · Yesterday 20:25

Husband couldn’t go on the holiday due to work commitments but got the running commentary via text and private FaceTimes. He has said sister and niece are no longer welcome in our home or around our daughter due to the bad mouthing and the danger in niece so casually telling tales and this not being picked up by anyone else/falling back on innocent people. He is a 10/10 husband so felt the need to make sure there was no suspicion on him! 🤣

Oh, good for him. He's right - liars are dangerous.

What if she accuses you of something worse next time?

At bare minimum, once they have all apologised, you need to ensure you are absolutely never left alone with this girl. There must always be witnesses.

DryadsRest · Today 02:57

newchaptermummy · Today 01:46

Can’t find reply to quote now but this is in response to how my parents would react on holiday: No idea what was said to my sister when I was in the pool etc but to me it was always they are too old to be dealing with this kind of behaviour and we need to sort it out ourselves. It was mentioned to me away from sister that I am the mature one and should be doing more to stop such behaviour from sister. On one occasion when sister stormed out of the evening entertainment she claimed I had ignored her for ‘8 hours’ when I had been in the pool with her children all day (and mine obvs) and when I returned to the sun bed she stropped to the room. Dad said nothing and mum made it clear it wasn’t her problem essentially.

Edited

Sounds like your parents may have set up an unhealthy dynamic between both siblings that isn’t fair on either of you.

Can imagine your sister saying it’s unfair newchaptermummy has x or y and I don’t, so she’s been set up to be the highly strung one and you’re probably expected to be mature and the good one. On holiday it showed up even more.

i would be annoyed too especially if I wasn’t overly keen on going on the first place and had spent most the holiday looking after her children….

Meadowfinch · Today 03:24

I think "heartbroken" is a bit over the top.

I'd sent a bluntly worded message back, saying that your sister had created a huge drama out of nothing, that you had refused to give it headspace, chosing instead to focus on your dd having a good time, and you strongly advise your dm to do the same.

Don't apologise or feel any guilt.

Continue to ignore the whole silly drama. They'll get over it.

Francestein · Today 04:05

Have you always been the family scapegoat, @newchaptermummy

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