AIBU to think that a stranger collecting a baby from a nursery is a massive safeguarding issue?

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I saw on @jodyriley_ ‘s Instagram account last night that her 1 year old daughter was incorrectly collected by the grandfather of another child recently. The man seems to have had the child in his care for over 15 minutes before returning to the nursery.

From what I can gather, the nursery have been incredibly shady in what they’ve told the Mum and as more information has been slowly released, it seems that despite the nursery initially saying the child was asleep when collected, CCTV has proved that she was awake and alert. The nursery have also refused to pass on the names or contact details of the person who picked up the child.

I cannot believe how awfully the nursery have handled this. If I were the parent of a child in that nursery, there’s no way I’d be staying there considering how lax their safeguarding seems to be.

Pleading to him on TikTok to come forward? He'd be mad to.
Any communication on this needs to go through the nursery or social services. If the parents have a genuine concern the grandad harmed her child in some way they need to go through the proper channels there are clear procedures to follow. Anyone know if they've tried that route or was social media their first go to?

Don’t make things up, the grandfather wasn’t “vetted”.

Seriously!! Get a grip. This needs looking into by ofsted but there is no evidence of a crime and certainly not abduction.

“……….the grandfather was completely vetted…….”
Really @Ally886 ?
By the nursery ?
Do they vet all those picking up children ?

When my niece started school my parents (who still treat me like a child) were messaging me all day checking I knew where the school was, etc etc, I knew what time to get there for, that I'd remember the car seat etc. I was early 40's and successfully live my life, respectable career, travelled all over the world alone, generally very organised, sensible and boringly so, and survive every day without catastrophy or consequence.

I picked my niece up from school perfectly, but text my parents saying "I didn't realise they had red uniforms 🤷🏻‍♀️" (uniform colour of other school on other side of town) and then a photo of a random little girl in said uniform I'd downloaded from other schools website and "I didn't realise Niece wore glasses either", thinking Parents would realise I was poking fun at them for thinking I couldn't possibly pick the right child up from the right school in my forties.

But oh no. My Dad panicked, got straight in the car to drive the 45 minutes journey to Nieces school. School maybe luckily, maybe unluckily, didn't answer the phone. The local Police 101 had him in the queue for too long so he hung up before they answered. My Brother (nieces Father) who was fully in on it, as it had been half his idea in the first place, was so scared at how angry our Dad was he chickened out of telling him he knew it was a joke. My Mum clicked, and was messaging us from the car, but just kept saying to him "maybe she's taking the mick" as she was also scared of how angry he was. My brother, his wife and me were all trying to get through to Dad, who wouldn't answer his phone. In the end my Brother got through to him and admitted it was me joking because they'd treated me like I wasn't capable of picking her up successfully, and Dad (who NEVER uses bad language just shouted "WELL SHE'S BLOODY STUPID" and slammed the phone down. He didn't speak to me for about 3 days. My Brother denied all knowledge. My parents think his wife couldn't have possibly been involved so never asked if she was. My Niece is now a lot older and thinks the whole story is hilarious. She totally understands that they were ridiculous in thinking that as an adult ANYONE, let alone sensible belt and braces me, could ever pick the wrong child up from the wrong school. But here we go, we've all been proven wrong!!

Unless my Dad was angry and scared for Niece because he knows it's a mistake HE might have made. 🤔

And if the worst had happened (im sure it didnt)
You think he would tell them mum that? Or lie and say it was an honest mistake? So whats the point?

What a brilliant story @Robyn847. Your poor Dad!!

To quote the article

"A spokesperson for Kids Planet said: "A child was mistakenly released to a grandparent who is known to staff, has passed all required security vetting and who is an approved collector for a different child, who was also onsite at the time."

Please don't embarrass yourself by commenting on a feed having not read the article.

We had to give paperwork for anyone collecting our two to prove relation and permission.

To quote the article

"A spokesperson for Kids Planet said: "A child was mistakenly released to a grandparent who is known to staff, has passed all required security vetting and who is an approved collector for a different child, who was also onsite at the time."

I'm making nothing up my sweet

So that she can then potentially go online and tell all her followers who it was so he can then be abused as a paedophile? Cos we know some people live by the mantra of no smoke without fire and absolutely would turn on him.

Clearly something isn't right here, something isn't matching up, they knew the guy as Lily's Grandad but didn't notice that he collected Rosie, he didn't notice it wasn't Rosie despite her being awake and according to her Mom very distinctive looking etc.

But no way would I want to put my extended family at risk of a molotov cocktail through the window for what I believed was a genuine mistake.

I'd be more likely to tell the Police than the Instagram Mom

I’ve been following this on IG and I feel so awful for this family! It feels like the nursery have changed story to hide their lack of safeguarding

You're putting rather a lot of faith in words from an organisation that hasn't exactly been shown to be telling the whole truth in this situation

They aren't MI5, its plain stupid to say that family members of their attendees have been security vetted, what exactly do you think they doing to achieve that?

What a bizarre statement from them - what security vetting do they do on parents and grandparents at that nursery?

I’ve put 6 kids through nursery and never once has anyone on the pick up list been security vetted.

they’re not really helping with disingenuous statements like that imo, trying to downplay it does them no favours.

But "all required security vetting" Is an empty phrase.

There is no required security vetting to collect a child from nursery, except someone saying "yeh, he's sound"

DBs first day at Primary … thought lunch was the end of the day, left the school and walked home - look of suprise on family faces when he arrived back 🤣🤣. This was the late 60s.

I’m not sure what this Mum wants, a mistake for made, nobody was hurt, nursery will be investigated by OFSTED, that’s the end of it.

I think her (already mild) hysteria, is being worked up by a lot of Tik-Tok detectives taking absolute bollocks about the law.

I see that the Ofsted report has now been released, I wonder how many parents will now be looking for a new nursery

I said 'anything untoward' which yes could be, worst case scenario some opportunistic abuse, but also could have been anything. What if he was a pretty lax grandparent regarding carseat safety, and just chucked the kid in the back, and they got into an accident? What if the usual grandchild is calm and docile and happy to walk across the carpark by grandpa's side, but the wrong child is not, and sprinted off into traffic? What if grandpa is not a gentle parent and felt comfortable yelling, swearing or hitting the other kid? Like ok, the chances of these are low, but the whole reason for safeguarding and risk assessments is to lower the chances even more.

I said 'it could have been an absolute disaster' and meant it, not just because of paedophiles but because kids are unpredictable and a grandparent who is not with it enough to realise they have the wrong child is not a grandparent I would confidently back to have any situation under control. Whether the nursery GAVE him the wrong child or he took the child is irrelevant. The nursery is at fault for not safeguarding the child, but grandpa hasn't covered himself in glory by not realising immediately!