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Am I wrong to stay out of a falling out between two friends?

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Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:06

I am looking for some perspective or advice on a difficult situation with two long term friends.
Two of my closest friends have fallen out. I’ve known both of them for years. One of them, I’ll call her Emma has been slowly and quietly freezing the other one out for over a year. My other friend, I’ll call her Anna had no idea why and has been really hurt and upset by it. To make things worse, Anna has been going through a really serious health challenge during this time and has had very little support. She’s a single mother, not originally from our city, has no family nearby. I felt awful watching Emma treat her this way and honestly I do think it’s been quite unkind.
But if I’m honest, Emma also intimidates me a little. I’ve seen how she operates when she decides she doesn’t like someone or doesn’t approve of them. She can be wonderful when she’s on your side but when she turns on someone she can be quite aggressive and cutting about it. I’ve watched her do it to others and I really don’t want to end up on the receiving end of that myself.
Then Emma removed Anna from our WhatsApp mum friends group publicly, the notification showed everyone that she’d been removed, which was humiliating for Anna and she was devastated and told me so. Up till then she’d never once asked me to take sides or get involved during the eighteen months of Emma gradually freezing her out. But after this she finally asked me directly to have her back, not to fall out with Emma or cause any scenes, just to quietly be less available to her. Less coffee, less socialising, that kind of thing. She said it was what she would do for me without hesitation.
I told her I always have her back and suggested we meet for a walk to talk. But if I’m being honest, I kept avoiding making the time for it because I didn’t want to have the conversation. Because if we talked properly, I might end up feeling like I had to actually do something. And I wasn’t sure I was prepared to do that.
Then I went away on holiday. While I was away I heard about some other upsetting things that had happened to Anna but I couldn’t really face dealing with it so I sent her some holiday videos and asked how her weekend had gone.
When she told me about another hurtful incident involving Emma I didn’t really respond to that at all apart from to send her funny insta cat video. I just couldn’t face it.
Since I got back Anna has gone a bit quiet. She’s not responding when I send her funny videos or light messages. I feel like things are really awkward between us and I don’t know what to do.
I know Anna is isolated, struggling, and has been incredibly patient. I know she’s only ever asked me for one thing. I know I promised a conversation and didn’t follow through. And if I’m honest, I know exactly why things have gone quiet, because she finally saw through my excuses.
Am I wrong? Am I being a coward? And what would you do in my position?

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wildnwilde · 15/07/2026 09:36

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keepincool · 15/07/2026 09:37

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That's the one 🙄

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Namechangefordaughterevasion · 15/07/2026 09:46

We had a similar situation in a friendship group where a long established group member started picking on and bullying a newer friend. God only knows why. The behaviour was noticed and as a group we rallied around the new friend, supporting her and including her. We also cooled off on the older friend for a while. Nothing was planned, nothing was discussed. It was an instinctive reaction to seeing someone bully someone they thought was the underdog.

Once the bully saw her tactics were backfiring her behaviour changed. For a while she was positively toadying up to her former victim. That was a few years ago now. The group is still intact. The two of them will never be besties but they rub along. Sadly my respect for the bully was diminished by the incident and we are no longer as close as we used to be.

And for people saying this is childish behaviour - our group is 'old' friends in every sense of the word. Our oldest members are in their 80s, the baby of the group is in her 50s. Longevity doesn't necessarily mean maturity.

RealEagle · 15/07/2026 09:46

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plus has a disliking of house spiders 😂

NorthCoast500 · 15/07/2026 09:47

Urgh. You and your husband are the worst sorts of people. In thrall to the popular couple, too scared of them not liking you to stand up for your other friends against their shitty behaviour.

Just like the bitchy girls and their wet lettuce hangers on that view their popularity as more important than their own sense of right and wrong.

chedderland · 15/07/2026 09:48

Emma sounds like an evil bitch who will turn on anyone on a whim. Why bother with her at all?

chedderland · 15/07/2026 09:48

NorthCoast500 · 15/07/2026 09:47

Urgh. You and your husband are the worst sorts of people. In thrall to the popular couple, too scared of them not liking you to stand up for your other friends against their shitty behaviour.

Just like the bitchy girls and their wet lettuce hangers on that view their popularity as more important than their own sense of right and wrong.

It’ll be funny when they turn on them eventually

GotTheBluePeterBadge · 15/07/2026 09:50

Anna, if you're reading this - you don't need to cross an ocean for people that wouldn't jump a puddle for you. I wish you all the luck in the world finding better friends!

SeaAndSangria · 15/07/2026 09:53

Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:36

Jesus I can’t believe people are being so harsh. I’ve tried to be supportive without actually taking a side. This isn’t primary school, I shouldn’t have to take a side. And it’s not easy. We all have stress in our lives and I don’t need any more. You are all judging me quite harshly without knowing much about me.

"Tried to be supportive?" How? By sending her cat videos when she's telling you what your so called *mate" has done now?
That's not being supportive, that's basically telling her you're ignoring what she's saying and being like "never mind, here's a cat instead!"
As for the mate telling you you "should make yourself less available for the friend she has a problem with" - fuck. That. Who does she think she is? Are you all 5?!
I couldn't be friends with the cow who treats people this way.
I'm in agreement with the pp that says the only one that comes out of this one well is your friend that's being "frozen out" just because she "called out Boris." 🙄😁
You sound wet, sorry. I say this as someone who hates confrontation myself. YABU

LostNFoundSV · 15/07/2026 09:55

I’d be very unhappy to have you as a friend. I chose not to join the ‘mean girl’ club nonsense when I started senior school! You need to grow up, apologise and show support for your ‘friend’ before you throw away all semblance of being an adult. And forget about Emma!

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SeaAndSangria · 15/07/2026 09:58

Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:48

I have been extremely supportive of Anna all year during her health problems. I’ve driven her to health appointments, helped her with domestic stuff shopping etc, done all I could on that front, I just didn’t want to be dragged into her conflict with Emma. Why should I be, it’s between them. Maybe Emma was hurt by Anna too in that heated argument and a wife is always going to side with her husband. I’ve been a good friend to Anna, for 20odd years , supported her through her divorce etc I think some of the comments on here are really really unfair. Basically you are saying I have to withdraw from Emma, and get off the fence. That will have very negative consequences for me. Be honest can you all say you would actually do that ? Becasue it’s easy to judge but but not so easy to do the hard things

"Very negative consequences for me?"
Why, what's she gonna do? Not want to play with you either?!
Oh noes if so 😕
I had two friends who hated each others guts years ago. I just saw them separately.
I'm not being told that I can't be friends with them too.

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Unfortunately this kind of group does exist, I had the misfortune to encounter one when my eldest was at primary school 🙄😁
There was one Queen Bee who everyone rallied round, and another who was Little Miss Dramatic and seemed to have a problem with someone new every week.
It was like being back at school ourselves (making me glad I was never "in" any In Groups if that's what they're like)
They're better off being ditched and finding yourself some normal people.

Ilovemyfam · 15/07/2026 10:10

Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:36

Jesus I can’t believe people are being so harsh. I’ve tried to be supportive without actually taking a side. This isn’t primary school, I shouldn’t have to take a side. And it’s not easy. We all have stress in our lives and I don’t need any more. You are all judging me quite harshly without knowing much about me.

Your post asked “Am I wrong? Am I being a coward”. Why are you then suggesting that people are being harsh? You really just wanted Mumsnet to validate your actions. It’s not happening is it!

crikeymikey123 · 15/07/2026 10:11

You sent her a cat video after she was really vulnerable?
Is this a joke?
I would have Anna's back a bit more, she sounds really quite nice, Emma sounds like a bully.

Optimisticdramalarma · 15/07/2026 10:15

I've been 'Anna' many,many times in my lifetime

From my mother,to my neighbour,to lots of friend groups over the years

I don't know why it's always me that gets pushed out (maybe because I won't put up and shut up over bullying,maybe its when i see them for what they are-i dunno)

The queen bee will always turn on me and 'poof!' I'm gone

It amazes me how many people stick with the 'Emma' and then act amazed when 'Emma' turns on them too (and she will-its a pattern)

Lots of these 'Emmas' do have lovely sides to their personalities but they are bullies deep down who use divide and conquer to keep themselves as queen bee

No amount of yummy food at a dinner party will make me put up and shut up over their behaviour

The best thing everyone can do is to walk away and leave 'Emma' to flounder as she sees her status disappear,but people are too scared of her bullying them too

I'm team 'Anna' over Boris too-he's a nob

Hellohelga · 15/07/2026 10:17

You and Emma deserve each other.

Katiesaidthat · 15/07/2026 10:19

Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:26

I hate conflict. It stresses me out. And I don’t want to fall out with Emma. She is a forceful person. Plus my dh hero worships Emma’s dh. He won’t was us falling out either

You and your husband are a couple of wimps.
And believe me, your dose is on it´s way. You just haven´t realised yet.

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oviraptor21 · 15/07/2026 10:25

Lilifer · 15/07/2026 00:26

I wish I could do this but it’s not just us girls, the husbands are friends too, we have all been intertwined for 20 odd years. I have tried to stay friends with both, now I see that isn’t really possible, I need to choose basically.

Actually you could stay friends with both but that would require you to take on a role of intermediary to try and help Emma and Anna resolve their differences. It does seem however that you're too passive or don't care enough to do this for your friends so what will probably happen is that Anna will withdraw and you can stay friends with the lovely Emma and her oh-so-charming (high-flyer) husband.

Databreach · 15/07/2026 10:29

Anna deserves so much better than Emma and you.

SummerHasArrivedatLast · 15/07/2026 10:34

Lilifer · 14/07/2026 22:36

Jesus I can’t believe people are being so harsh. I’ve tried to be supportive without actually taking a side. This isn’t primary school, I shouldn’t have to take a side. And it’s not easy. We all have stress in our lives and I don’t need any more. You are all judging me quite harshly without knowing much about me.

You have taken a side - Emma's.

Don't kid yourself you are any kind of friend to Anna. She at least had the guts to stand up to the nasty bully.

You have done exactly what Emma wanted you to do. It's clear that in order to remain "friends" you must dance to Emma's tune however badly she behaves. She is utterly toxic and by following her lead you are toxic too.

Anna deserves better than a bully and a craven coward for "friends".