Why does everyone hate us so much ?!

[englandd]

I’m talking about being English, spent alot of time on the cesspit that is Reddit this World Cup and the vast majority absolutely hate England, I known it stems from the British empire but as far as I’m aware it wasn’t just England who were bad back then was it ? I mean Spain and Portugal took a big part in colonialism too but why is it just the English that gets the hate ?
Last night I would’ve been genuinely happy to support Norway if they went through, I can’t imagine hating another nation so badly. Maybe I shouldn’t take it personally 😆

Aibu ? Do we deserve the hate we get from something that happened hundreds of years ago ? For what it’s worth the British empire were ruthless and I don’t celebrate anything they did, but I also don’t think we should be punished still for something that happened so so long ago.

That’s the thing, Scotland don’t care. We were just happy to be in Boston. Happy to be part of a tournament. We never expected to get out of the group stages. If you’ve been any social media you know that for Scotland it’s just about being there. No Scotland, no Party. That’s why we are often named supporters of the tournament (when we make it of course 😂).

Colonialism, genocide during the Irish famine, Brexit, the violence of football fans, the loud behaviour and excessive drinking when abroad.

So what are the three that you're boycotting?

Why the fuck should a modern day German feel guilty about a holocaust they had absolutely nothing to do with? What's done is done. Never forget but dont carry a burden that was never yours to carry.

It’s about all the English people who live here voting, if it was just Scot’s born here the vote would have been for independence

I don’t know anything about the football but the British Empire was not ‘hundreds of years ago’, it continued into the middle of the 20th century. There are people alive who were born under it, and countless whose parents and grandparents lives were blighted by it, including by its ending - partition of the Indian subcontinent as just one (huge and largely undiscussed) example. Descendants of colonial subjects in this country and around the world still suffer many forms of hardship as a direct result of the empire’s impact on their heritage countries, including the extraction of resources and labour to build this country’s wealth (and yes that went on for hundreds of years).

I’m not saying anyone should hate anyone for historical events, what’s more important is practical reparations and social justice including through education, but the attitude of ‘it was hundreds of years ago, people should just get over it’ is likely to contribute to people in some other countries feeling aggrieved by the current English population, who absolutely still benefit from the wealth and cultural capital obtained through empire.

I guess im going to have to kick tue shortbread habit and drastically reduce the amount of haggis ive been consuming lately

He obviously didn’t share his entire family history with me but he has told me in the past he likes his life here. His children were born here etc. he has a lot of family in Ireland and visits often but said he wouldn’t move back, he didn’t say why. In conversation we have talked about how we like living in London. I am from the north I said I like living here and wouldn’t move back north, he pretty much said the same thing about Ireland.

It's your arrogance in football that does it. And your hooligans are some of the worst. Drunken, obnoxious, aggressive, violent and loud idiots.

Love how quickly the comments come that show exactly why Scotland thinks English are arrogant

And that attitude is why many dislike the English.

nope! Scottish and voted against, lots of friends and family also Scottish and voted No!! Or “naw”…😉

That's not true though. If it had been only English people voting to stay you'd have left. Lots of Scottish voted to stay too, as you will know.

they are under achievers. They have been lucky not to be knocked out of the World Cup, the defence have not been great and other than France the big teams especially Argentina have under performed which has helped England looked better they have also had an easy ride this World Cup in terms of the teams they’ve faced! Lucky to get to a semi final without having to face any of the other top 8!

England go round like they are owed something! But actually they arrogant which is why everyone wants the team to be knocked out: this is the first time in a long time the squad has been picked for the right reason and not because of the players names. And maybe after this tournament the attitude will change towards the team

Duolingo is excellent for this. A few months of lessons before you go away gives you enough of a language to be polite in a restaurant/shop/market stall. I'm pretty fluent in French anyway but now have conversational Italian and Spanish.

That said, last year I was in the Dutch speaking part of Belgium and spoke French and was informed they prefer to speak English- literally anything but French! So there's a place that doesn't hate England in the face of a worse alternative

There's a lot of anti-English sentiment in Ireland, especially when it comes to big sporting events like the World Cup. In our case, it's due to colonisation. The Irish people suffered terribly during the centuries of English occupation, culminating in the devastating famine of the 1840s.

We gained our independence in 1921, but our country was divided, which in turn set the scene for the Troubles. When the British army was brought in to quell the violence, the soldiers behaved very dishonourably (to put it mildly). The British army colluded with Loyalist terrorist groups. In 1971 the British army killed 11 innocent civilians in Belfast (the Ballymurphy massacre). The Parachute Regiment shot 26 unarmed civilians (all Catholics) during a protest march in Derry in 1972 (Bloody Sunday). The British state was complicit in the wrongful conviction of the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four. These events didn't take place hundreds of years ago.

More recently, English people showed little consideration for the people of Northern Ireland (and the fragile peace process) when they voted for Brexit. This has damaged Anglo-Irish relations.

Having said all of the above, if England hadn't colonised Ireland, then I'm sure it would have been another European country - France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium? Take your pick. And if it hadn't been for the British army, Ireland would surely have been invaded by Germany in World War I and II.

I hope that as time goes by, we can move on from the events of the past and forge a genuine friendship. But Irish people still find it very hard to cheer on England.

It doesn't bother me that English fans go on about winning the World Cup in 1966. We still go on about reaching the quarter finals in Italia '90 . Sadly, we didn't qualify this year. The tournament isn't quite the same without the Irish team and our fans. Anyway, I'm enjoying watching all of the matches and I hope all of the fans are having a blast. Sad that we're coming to the end of the tournament.

Not racism but Mexico have been called out for using a homophobic chant towards goal keepers.

mainly it boils down to jealousy i think. There’s always a bit of rivalry there though. I myself rolled my eyes at all the ‘no Scotland no party’ nonsense as if they’re the only fans capable of having a good time.

Most people don't care about bitter xenophobes. If you do though best to boycott their products and move on.

The Norwegian team isn't all white.

Historically we were the rulers and the aggressors and humans love an under dog.

Plus we burned down the White House a fact I did not know!

How many football supporters do you actually know? Many England supporters have little to no confidence in us ever winning another trophy, absolutely the opposite view to the one you suggest.

As for 'it's coming home', you obviously know nothing about the song and why the lyrics say what they do.

Actually, not so long ago, the English had a reputation for being modest and "self-deprecating", and some are still like that.

Others, like you, are now trying to outdo the Americans for unappealing self-worship.

It's how we act abroad whether as tourists or ex pats (immigrants).

Drunk. Loud. Arrogant.

I've lived in 4 other countries and we have a bad reputation for how we act when we're tourists and ex pats aren't much better.

The Hooligan thing needs calling out for the total bullshit it is. There was a hooliganism problem in the 1980s, now largely dealt with. Yes, some England fans act very poorly, in common with a minority of fans from every nation. There was violence after the France v Morocco game the other day. Some Eastern European fans make monkey noises at black players, and have neo-Nazi elements. If you think Scottish fans are lovely, I suggest you attend an Old Firm derby, especially if you like a bit of sectarian bigotry.

I’ve attended several England games and never felt unsafe.

Hooliganism is just a convenient excuse, because if it was the real reason its proponents would hate most of the other footballing nations too.

A quick google will tell you we export way more than that