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Rupert Lowe

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Yapper73 · 09/07/2026 19:09

To think he should resign for this blatant lie that suits his agenda. What an absolute arse.

He was on Joe Rogans podcast and the headlines are true. https://news.sky.com/story/fury-as-restore-britain-leader-rupert-lowe-describes-dunblane-tragedy-as-one-murder-13561888

This is from the transcript of the podcast. He actually said it - “ffectively, they are trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
The 90s, right?
In the late 90s, because there was a murder up in Dunblane.
One murder.
One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols for Oxford University, and he had, he's dead now, bless him, but he had, all his pistols were taken away, the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University. I mean, we now have a society which needs radical change, and we need to release the individual.”

From The Joe Rogan Experience: #2524 - Rupert Lowe, 8 Jul 2026
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000775995609&r=1741
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#2524 - Rupert Lowe

#2524 - Rupert Lowe

Podcast Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 8 July · 2h 10m

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/2524-rupert-lowe/id360084272?i=1000775995609

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Charys · 10/07/2026 15:50

Luckily Keir said sausages instead of sausage.

Uricon2 · 10/07/2026 16:29

Ironic that someone who exploits tragic failures in the system.
for their own agenda and political points should refer to a massacre of 16 children and their teacher and even more wounded as "one murder".

The grooming and rape of even one girl is appalling, they were failed, but I wouldn't trust him on an attempt at numerical precision. Better than him exposed the grooming gangs first.

valadon68 · 10/07/2026 16:33

If he had wanted to make the point and represent things accurately, he would have said 'one mass murder'. But he chose not to say that because, obviously, the public response to that would be to remind him that one mass murder is an excellent reason to ban guns. So we must draw the conclusion that he's happy to use inaccurate language in order to create maximum impact. This is not what politicians should do.

ShutupLwren · 10/07/2026 16:39

ForeverNowWithin · 10/07/2026 14:38

Can you explain how he is self serving? I have no dog in this fight, just interested to know what you mean by that.

everything he does is to suit his own agenda. I even think the donating money is simply to make him seem like a man of the people when he’s being funded by musk.
He doesn’t care about women’s safety when the perpetrators are white. He wants division and control. The fact he brought up the mass killings of children so dismissively because personally wants less gun control shows what his priorities are and the protection of women and children is not it.

I’d welcome a genuine MP who gives a damn about the victims of grooming gangs, I truly believe that it’s one of the most dangerous things that has happened to children for a very long time but RL doesn’t care about children from the underclasses, he’s using them to raise his own profile and as we’re seeing from being a guest on JRE, it’s worked. Although I believe musk will have had some part to play in that.

StandFirm · 10/07/2026 16:42

Yapper73 · 09/07/2026 19:09

To think he should resign for this blatant lie that suits his agenda. What an absolute arse.

He was on Joe Rogans podcast and the headlines are true. https://news.sky.com/story/fury-as-restore-britain-leader-rupert-lowe-describes-dunblane-tragedy-as-one-murder-13561888

This is from the transcript of the podcast. He actually said it - “ffectively, they are trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
The 90s, right?
In the late 90s, because there was a murder up in Dunblane.
One murder.
One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols for Oxford University, and he had, he's dead now, bless him, but he had, all his pistols were taken away, the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University. I mean, we now have a society which needs radical change, and we need to release the individual.”

From The Joe Rogan Experience: #2524 - Rupert Lowe, 8 Jul 2026
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000775995609&r=1741
This material may be protected by copyright.

Yes, what an arsehole. I remember Dunblane vividly and am still bloody proud of the fact this country managed to do what was needed in about a year or so when successive US admnistrations just faff about and call for prayers after yet another mass school shooting. Absolutely disgusting and VILE.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 10/07/2026 17:19

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:27

Mumsnet - the middle class women's forum where a bloke doing a slip of the tongue in which he said 'one murder' instead of 'one series of murders' gets more coverage than the 250,000 working class women and girls who got raped that his report detailed.

Are thick or what? It wasn't a slip of the tongue. He was questioned on the quantity of murders and he confirmed by saying "one'.

Notonthestairs · 10/07/2026 18:02

Persephonia1966 · 10/07/2026 15:28

It's worse, because the context of Rogans interjection was disbelief that they'd done all that for "just one murder". Him choosing not to correct himself and say it was one incident was absolutely an attempt to mislead on the scale in order to make the response seem more disproportionate.

People are always saying that we should take what people say in context, but the context for Lowe is actually worse.

Yes, Rogan sounded disbelieving and Lowe doubled down.

Lowe is self serving because he lied about what happened in order to elicit a particular response.

The implication is that restrictions on hand guns was an overreaction - the UK public simply doesn't agree with him.

He is being interviewed for a US audience to gain backing for his political party. He's not there on a jolly, he's there to gain influence with the American far right.
Political parties aren't run on fresh air - they need huge amounts of exposure and backers willing to use their networks (media and otherwise).

Rogan wouldn't have actually cared that Dunblane involved the murder of children and teaching staff. He came out against increased gun control after the murder of 19 children and 2 adults at a school in Uvalde.
Libertarians are very casual with other people's safety.

Agrumpyknitter · 10/07/2026 18:14

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:39

I'm slightly more bothered about the 250,000 girls who were raped than him saying 'one murder' instead of 'one murderous act'.

I’m glad. We all should be concerned when any woman is raped or sexually assaulted. Except Rupert Lowe only cares when the offenders are brown or black. White male rapists he’s not so bothered about as I haven’t heard any of his plans to address the pitifully low rates of rape convictions.

He’s part of the establishment. His voting record shows he voted against the recent employment rights act, shows he doesn’t care about the average working person in this country.

PencilsInSpace · 10/07/2026 22:46

Persephonia1966 · 10/07/2026 14:44

I'm not her, but I'd assume she means because he didn't really mention Grooming gangs prior to 2011, when it still wasn't being talked about. He doesn't (correct me if I'm wrong) seem to have talked about them after 2011 when it was well known about, or advocate for the victims or for changes to prevent it happening again. He didn't even mention it once he entered politics (again correct me if I'm wrong, I did search online and couldn't find anything). He only started talking about it after he fell out with Farage and set up his own rival party.
So, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that his interest comes more from a place of looking for an angle to distinguish himself on the political right. Many people are (justifiably) very angry about the Grooming gangs so it's an emotive topic to pick. But to me, if those are his motivations I would define them as self serving.

And that's before you get into the topic of how you could prevent the sexual exploitation happening again and his tunnel vision on this.

To be fair, there are rather a lot of wide ranging recommendations in the report and most are not to do with immigration. I loathe his politics but I found myself agreeing with a good 2/3rds of them. There's also a lot in there about centering the victims.

It's worth a read, even if you hate Lowe. And if you come out disagreeing with every word he says you'll at least have a better idea of what you're up against.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6810978a41bbc42489eafa81/t/6a314bb1151e511944bd4421/1781615537601/The+Rape+Gang+Inquiry+Report.pdf

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