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Rupert Lowe

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Yapper73 · 09/07/2026 19:09

To think he should resign for this blatant lie that suits his agenda. What an absolute arse.

He was on Joe Rogans podcast and the headlines are true. https://news.sky.com/story/fury-as-restore-britain-leader-rupert-lowe-describes-dunblane-tragedy-as-one-murder-13561888

This is from the transcript of the podcast. He actually said it - “ffectively, they are trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
The 90s, right?
In the late 90s, because there was a murder up in Dunblane.
One murder.
One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols for Oxford University, and he had, he's dead now, bless him, but he had, all his pistols were taken away, the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University. I mean, we now have a society which needs radical change, and we need to release the individual.”

From The Joe Rogan Experience: #2524 - Rupert Lowe, 8 Jul 2026
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000775995609&r=1741
This material may be protected by copyright.

#2524 - Rupert Lowe

#2524 - Rupert Lowe

Podcast Episode · The Joe Rogan Experience · 8 July · 2h 10m

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/2524-rupert-lowe/id360084272?i=1000775995609

OP posts:
olivepicanto · 10/07/2026 09:53

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:27

Mumsnet - the middle class women's forum where a bloke doing a slip of the tongue in which he said 'one murder' instead of 'one series of murders' gets more coverage than the 250,000 working class women and girls who got raped that his report detailed.

Wow. Do you think this "silp of the tongue" was trivial?

WaltzingTilda · 10/07/2026 10:11

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:27

Mumsnet - the middle class women's forum where a bloke doing a slip of the tongue in which he said 'one murder' instead of 'one series of murders' gets more coverage than the 250,000 working class women and girls who got raped that his report detailed.

💯💯💯. Thank you 👍🏽. As soon as i see the "far-right" name calling, I'm off.

Notonthestairs · 10/07/2026 10:27

It wasn't one murder. He was asked to clarify that it was one and he doubled down.
He deliberately mislead listeners.

If you are more offended by being called far right than you are about misrepresenting what happened at Dunblane that's on you.

Lifejigsaw · 10/07/2026 10:27

Can we just be clear that the 250K figure came from an estimate, that Rupert Lowe made by taking the number of women and girls in the grooming gang enquiries, and multiplying it by the number of people in the UK. It has no evidential base and has already been debunked. The man is as bad at statistics as he is at morality.

None of that takes away from the appalling sexual, domestic and other violence that women and girls face on a daily basis from men of all ethnicities, backgrounds, wealths etc.

Just because a man wants to use violence against women and girls to distract you from the structural issues of the patriarchy and instead support oppression, doesn't mean you have to.

Shefliesonherownwings · 10/07/2026 10:31

He is a disgusting vile man. He not only referred to Dunblane as one murder, he referred to himself as ‘pure blood’ whatever the duck that means and a million other racist things. There are no words strong enough to describe that vile individual.

igelkott2026 · 10/07/2026 10:31

WaltzingTilda · 10/07/2026 10:11

💯💯💯. Thank you 👍🏽. As soon as i see the "far-right" name calling, I'm off.

The OP didn't mention his politics, she mentioned his comments.

Any chance you could actually read the opening post?

Minasama · 10/07/2026 10:50

He has done so much that is good and valuable in exposing the extent and organisation of the Pakistani rape gangs (who knew before that they operated in 149 areas of the country with as many as 250,000 victims?) and providing a platform for the victims to be heard, then he talks twaddle like this.

I thought the rape gangs were awful but confined to the few locations that made the news - Rochdale, Rotherham, the awful case in the Oxfordshire Premier Inn. I think most people thought that but it is not so.

Notonthestairs · 10/07/2026 11:25

There's no excuse for referring to Dunblane as a murder.
None.
He's misleading listeners at best. At worst he is betraying families for right wing attention.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 11:41

Persephonia1966 · 09/07/2026 23:36

It's a trap.
A very large number of women and girls were raped over a long period of time. If someone writes a massive number, and you dispute that then they get to come back and say "so you think X number (smaller but still horribly high) is OK then because it was only X..."

The fact is that it is shameful to the UK that this continued for so long and wasn't a media priority. It only really hit the mainstream media in 2011 and after that we started having inquiries and trials and dramas on the BBC. All of this should have happened a lot sooner..of course, it took Lowe another decade to become concerned about the issue and he only started his "awareness raising" campaign after falling out with Farage and launching his own party... But just as the alternative history of Dunblane went unchallenged on JRE because you can't expect Americans to know much about UK events, so many of the American audience will believe that Lowe was the first person to talk about the issue. In 2024....

I think that we should be doing more to support the survivors and ensure that CSE is always responded to as the hideous crime it is. I'm glad the government commissioned a new inquiry. I'm not sure what Lowes awareness raising is for since awareness isn't the issue (it would have been 15 years ago).

Well, there are people on this thread demonstrating that the issue is far from resolved, acknowledged, or settled.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 11:43

PencilsInSpace · 10/07/2026 09:12

That would be the socialist worker that covered up rape within its own party, subjecting victims to an internal kangaroo court because 'the party had "no faith in the bourgeois court system to deliver justice"'?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/09/socialist-workers-party-rape-kangaroo-court

I loathe Lowe's politics and his comments about Dunblane are appalling.

I wish the rape gangs report had been produced by someone far more centrist. I wish the left had not created such a political vacuum around this issue by silencing and smearing as bigots anyone who spoke up for years and years and years. I wish they had not had to be dragged kicking and screaming into starting the process of their own inquiry and I wish that inquiry was not such a shitshow that victim survivors are abandoning the process in droves.

But here we are.

And socialist worker are a bunch of raging misogynist hypocrits.

Yep.

Shakeoffyourchains · 10/07/2026 11:47

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:36

I think people are pretending to be upset about something irrelevant because they don't like the man who said it.

Labour and Green MPs say some truly offensive things every day and nobody cares.

Why do you guys and gals on the right find it simply impossible to condemn something so blatantly hideous?

Aways what about, what about, what about with you lot.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 12:00

Well, also with the left to be fair. Tribalism affects all political parties/inclinations

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 10/07/2026 12:02

One mass school shooting was one too many .
Not another in the UK since
USA kids with Kevlar backpacks as protection at school
School shootings regular as clockwork.

Lowe is despicable cunt he knew what he was saying.

Monty36 · 10/07/2026 12:09

Not to be awkward OP but what made you want to give him one moment of publicity.
You do realise this is precisely what he would want ?
Do not give it oxygen.

AgnesX · 10/07/2026 12:12

ukgone2pot · 10/07/2026 07:55

Lots of points which I personally agree with :

  • Illegal immigration
  • Banning Sharia law and all alien, backwards cultural practices.
  • Much harsher punishments for murderers, child rapists
  • horrible civil red tape culture
  • sorting out high streets out

To name a few. As I said, I don't agree with everything he says, but he speaks a lot of sense. His party is called Restore for a reason. If only he could Restore some of how the UK used to be I would be a very happy woman.

When was that then 1955? And Sharia law isn't legal in the UK either.

Just btw if you've got any ideas for sorting out the high street why don't you pass them on. Local government would be delighted to hear them I'm sure.

ukgone2pot · 10/07/2026 12:23

@AgnesX even 10-20 years ago, things felt remarkable different to how they did now. Let's not deny they don't..

You are incredibly naive if you don't think Sharia exists in the UK. Doesn't matter whether it's legal or not. It's here. I think this is how the rapes gang started....denial at its finest.

Persephonia1966 · 10/07/2026 12:29

WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 11:41

Well, there are people on this thread demonstrating that the issue is far from resolved, acknowledged, or settled.

It's not settled at all.
But "awareness" isn't the issue. In fact the fact it isn't resolved is proof that "awareness" alone, while an important first step is not enough to prevent ongoing abuse. Which is why instituting the recommendations of the Gray report was important, as is (IMO) having another proper government inquiry like the one that is ongoing. And then following the recommendations of that inquiry when it concludes. Because endless inquiries and reports themselves don't do anything. But people using it for political capital can't be defended by "at least they're raising awareness" 15 years after the story broke in a massive scale.

AgnesX · 10/07/2026 12:32

ukgone2pot · 10/07/2026 12:23

@AgnesX even 10-20 years ago, things felt remarkable different to how they did now. Let's not deny they don't..

You are incredibly naive if you don't think Sharia exists in the UK. Doesn't matter whether it's legal or not. It's here. I think this is how the rapes gang started....denial at its finest.

I don't get how you can equate rape gangs and Sharia law. Talk about a leap of imagination. If people want to use it that's up to them but British law rules.

Twenty years ago things did feel different because there was no or very little internet for the racist and bigoted to peddle their poison.

Glowingup · 10/07/2026 12:34

FunStork · 09/07/2026 19:36

I think people are pretending to be upset about something irrelevant because they don't like the man who said it.

Labour and Green MPs say some truly offensive things every day and nobody cares.

Okay, Rupert

AnyDayNowChuckJacksonNSoul · 10/07/2026 12:36

AgnesX · 10/07/2026 12:32

I don't get how you can equate rape gangs and Sharia law. Talk about a leap of imagination. If people want to use it that's up to them but British law rules.

Twenty years ago things did feel different because there was no or very little internet for the racist and bigoted to peddle their poison.

It was done with newspaper sales,PO box numbers,stickers,meetings in backrooms in pubs etc..limited audience

Persephonia1966 · 10/07/2026 12:37

This is an example of an inquiry that had a positive impact
https://www.inquestsandinquiries.com/projects/dunblane
It identified the problem, made recommendations, and then those recommendations were instituted in law. And there were no equivalent mass shootings since. And decades later Lowe complained that his father had lost his handgun privileges as a result.

The problem with populist leaders is they have no interest in bringing about real change. Inquiries can be useful first steps, or they can be a way for politicians to kick a can down the road. They aren't fixing the problem in themselves. But I haven't seen any enthusiasm for the likes of Lowe and Farage to put the recommendations of enquiries into law. In fact there's a contempt for the idea parliament can change anything or any recommendations that don't fit their narrative. And sometimes actual attempts to derail bills putting recommendations into law as a way to play party politics.

Dunblane (Cullen) | Inquests & Inquiries

https://www.inquestsandinquiries.com/projects/dunblane

Triskellion75 · 10/07/2026 12:40

There are some things that are simply unforgivable and this is one of them. I actually don't have the words.

WhatWouldMyMamaSay · 10/07/2026 12:41

Yapper73 · 09/07/2026 19:22

@TofuTheCat does he realise that goes into the world and people believe it when it’s so wrong. Does he have children?

Yes. His son recently married a Muslim actually (or someone who has a Muslim family) and they served halal meat at the wedding.

Oh the irony.

(Before anyone comes at me, I mean it’s hilarious that someone who is so anti Islam and anti immigration now has Muslim in-laws!).

Rothburypixie · 10/07/2026 12:42

WaltzingTilda · 10/07/2026 10:11

💯💯💯. Thank you 👍🏽. As soon as i see the "far-right" name calling, I'm off.

Bye

WhatWouldMyMamaSay · 10/07/2026 12:45

ukgone2pot · 10/07/2026 12:23

@AgnesX even 10-20 years ago, things felt remarkable different to how they did now. Let's not deny they don't..

You are incredibly naive if you don't think Sharia exists in the UK. Doesn't matter whether it's legal or not. It's here. I think this is how the rapes gang started....denial at its finest.

Yes, completely. Rule 1 of shariah law (in a religion that forbids premarital sex) is that men must groom and rape white women. 🙄

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