Rupert Lowe

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To think he should resign for this blatant lie that suits his agenda. What an absolute arse.

He was on Joe Rogans podcast and the headlines are true. https://news.sky.com/story/fury-as-restore-britain-leader-rupert-lowe-describes-dunblane-tragedy-as-one-murder-13561888

This is from the transcript of the podcast. He actually said it - “ffectively, they are trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
The 90s, right?
In the late 90s, because there was a murder up in Dunblane.
One murder.
One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols for Oxford University, and he had, he's dead now, bless him, but he had, all his pistols were taken away, the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University. I mean, we now have a society which needs radical change, and we need to release the individual.”

From The Joe Rogan Experience: #2524 - Rupert Lowe, 8 Jul 2026
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000775995609&r=1741
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There is no way it was a slip of the tongue. Most people seeking to minimise what happened would describe it "an event" or "an incident and not go into more details (where/how many/young young the children were) but saying "one murder" was clearly done on purpose,to be controversial.

I do agree with you but any number of the MPs who have made "misleading" comments and not corrected them could have also have made them with ulterior motives. The man is despicable but I suspect he is not alone

Reddit tends to ask for receipts.

This…..

And anyone who is defending him - what the actual fuck?

I remember exactly where I was when the news started to come in. I know Dunblane too. The absolute horror of that day has never left me and to hear a British politician diminish that because his poor old dad was inconvenienced. Well what a shame for him.

The response to this tragedy is one thing our country absolutely got right.

Disgusting man who knew full well what he was doing.

Mr Lowe.
It is better to remain silent and for people to think you are a fool than to speak and confirm it.

Has he apologised yet?

Don’t you dare tell me that I’m faking upset. I remember Dunblane happening vividly and although I wasn’t a parent then or part of the community it was absolutely horrific. You do NOT get to accuse decent people of faking emotions just because you don’t care about the deaths of five and six year olds and their heroic teacher whose last act was to try and protect them. This is not a top trump’s competition of which tragedy is worse.

I watched the interview and believe what he meant was one event.

I don't agree with everything he says but he does make some very valid points.

I was almost riled into replying to the despicable comments from one pp, however i reminded myself that Ive pledged not to argue with trolls or bots.

Rupert Lowe's surname is a perfect example of nominative determinism.

Can you give us some examples?

What valid points?

Evidence for your figure of 250,000 ?

He's a despicable piece of shit. Anyone who excuses or endorses his comment is despicable as well. Still, I suppose some people will defend him as long as he promises to deport enough brown people.

Well he’s out of touch with majority opinions.

‘A clear majority of the public (56%) in fact believe there should be greater restrictions on gun ownership, including 28% who would favour a complete ban on civilians owning firearms. A further 35% think that current restrictions are about right, leaving only a tiny proportion (4%) who believe existing rules are too tight and should be relaxed.’

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54303-what-do-britons-think-of-gun-restrictions-in-2026

It's a trap.
A very large number of women and girls were raped over a long period of time. If someone writes a massive number, and you dispute that then they get to come back and say "so you think X number (smaller but still horribly high) is OK then because it was only X..."

The fact is that it is shameful to the UK that this continued for so long and wasn't a media priority. It only really hit the mainstream media in 2011 and after that we started having inquiries and trials and dramas on the BBC. All of this should have happened a lot sooner..of course, it took Lowe another decade to become concerned about the issue and he only started his "awareness raising" campaign after falling out with Farage and launching his own party... But just as the alternative history of Dunblane went unchallenged on JRE because you can't expect Americans to know much about UK events, so many of the American audience will believe that Lowe was the first person to talk about the issue. In 2024....

I think that we should be doing more to support the survivors and ensure that CSE is always responded to as the hideous crime it is. I'm glad the government commissioned a new inquiry. I'm not sure what Lowes awareness raising is for since awareness isn't the issue (it would have been 15 years ago).

I'm more concerned with UK issues than American issues because I can vote in the UK etc, but it is true that massive CSE of vulnerable teenagers has and is ongoing in America. And the victims are viewed with the same dismissiveness as UK victims were. It's just not as of much interest to the American right because there isn't so much a Muslim male/white victim pattern so there's less political capital. But look at the way black children in particular are adultified/talked about as hoodrats etc. Or the glorification of pimp culture that took over a lot of American TV and commercialised (the stuff that was pushed the most heavily) rap music in the 2000s. if JR or his fans wanted to effect real change they could try to change the way those victims are viewed. But they aren't interested in that- just misery porn from other countries. The acceptance of the boyfriend to pimp route, and the fact that some girls just are sex trafficked and that's the way it goes, is if anything higher now in America than it was in the UK. The same sort of language used by police officers/social workers in the North-West that is now viewed with justified anger is still kinda mainstream. It's often (eg) black men grooming black girls into CSE through drugs etc. So maybe theres less political capital there.for politicians than the UK grooming scandal.which is why they care less. Or maybe noone knows what to do about it.

I don't know what to do about what happens in America, so I'm more focused on my own country because whataboutery doesn't help. But it is infuriating that you will have people like Rogan who will be fangirling over men who have slept with 14 year olds in one episode, and then shaking their heads in horror at the thought anyone could turn a bling eye to men sleeping with 14 year olds in another. It seems like a really good way to ensure no problems get fixed

Lots of points which I personally agree with :

• Illegal immigration
• Banning Sharia law and all alien, backwards cultural practices.
• Much harsher punishments for murderers, child rapists
• horrible civil red tape culture
• sorting out high streets out

To name a few. As I said, I don't agree with everything he says, but he speaks a lot of sense. His party is called Restore for a reason. If only he could Restore some of how the UK used to be I would be a very happy woman.

He reminds me of the aristocrats in the UK who supported Hitler during the Second World War.

He is definitely fascist adjacent if not full fascist. It definitely wasn't a 'slip of the tongue' as one poster has claimed as Joe Rogan asked him to clarify the 'one murder' comment and he doubled down.

Whilst I appreciate the effort that went into that report, the girls abused and raped and tortured are from the ‘types’ of families which RL and his party detest. Low income, on benefits, poor education, seen as drains on the state in his works of individual economics.
I watched the full interview with Joe Rogan because I did not want to judge from a comment. I wanted the context.
RL is an intelligent and experienced business man. He knew the subjects he would be bringing and at his age was well aware of Dublane as any one of his age would be.
What he said was very clear - one murder. When Joe repeated the remark, RL did not correct him.
But one murder is not the same as a class full of children and a teacher being gunned down, and he knows it.
The one murder narrative suited his argument over gun laws more and of course over in the States it’s not as well known.
Nobody says Sandyhook was just one murder.
Nobody would say the Southport attack was just one murder.
And to double down on this one murder comment is ridiculous. If he had any decency he would apologise profusely.
This era of politics disturbs me and I’m not just talking about RL, and Farage’s bung.
There is no stability. Everything is designed to deliver instability.
I am glad I watched the podcast as I don’t like to judge on no evidence. To be fair, he was engaging and speaks with confidence, but some of his narrative deeply offends me.
The one thing I did agree with him on was the decision to keep the pound.
I am physically disabled and became so through no fault of my own. I had to give up my professional career 25 years ago.
Before anyone comes for me, I work in a different area now. I have a good education to post graduate level.
I write to every incoming DWP boss and every party leader about disability and the benefits system. My background is in economics so I’m no fool. I know the system is out of control.
In all of the years I’ve been writing to them all the only person who has contacted me was Esther McVey. She was actually very interested, and we spoke on several occasions.
Someone from Reform got back to me with an AI reply.
Nobody else bothers. Restore have not replied after several months.
I will be interested to see if they do.
And nobody from Labour ever has. I am left of centre, with no real current political home because there isn’t a party or a politician who I feel is going to deliver what is needed.
Again, I find entirely neo-classical economics dangerous. Well, it works for the wealthy.
I do believe we can create a thriving economy where wealth creation is key. However, as human beings we can still look after the most vulnerable. You can actually have both, but it depends on transparency.
And politics is as thick as mud now with corruption. There has always been some level of it, but now it’s beyond the pale.

Just unbelievably stupid.

I wonder if the kind of people he otherwise has credibility with agree on this - I’ve never got a sense there’s much public enthusiasm to allow unrestricted access to hand guns.

It's more American focused. But, as with abortion which was much less of a political issue in the UK just a few years ago, it still has the potential to be made a talking point this side of the pond.
Gun rights and being pro-life are (kind of ironically) a big part of American Right wing identities. Even if it weren't for the support of people like Thiell etc, the fact everything is very online now means there's more melding of political issues than before. So American talking points get carried over here even when they aren't relevant (eg positive discrimination was never legal under UK law but you wouldn't know that to listen to some).

The whole hearted rejection of hand guns in private hands as a reaction to the murder of 16 innocents is one of things that makes me proud of these islands.

The Socialist Worker is in no position to pronounce on rape, given its appalling history of covering the subject up.

But Lowe's comment on Dunblane is utterly appalling. This will not play well with the UK public.

That would be the socialist worker that covered up rape within its own party, subjecting victims to an internal kangaroo court because 'the party had "no faith in the bourgeois court system to deliver justice"'?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/09/socialist-workers-party-rape-kangaroo-court

I loathe Lowe's politics and his comments about Dunblane are appalling.

I wish the rape gangs report had been produced by someone far more centrist. I wish the left had not created such a political vacuum around this issue by silencing and smearing as bigots anyone who spoke up for years and years and years. I wish they had not had to be dragged kicking and screaming into starting the process of their own inquiry and I wish that inquiry was not such a shitshow that victim survivors are abandoning the process in droves.

But here we are.

And socialist worker are a bunch of raging misogynist hypocrits.