Rupert Lowe

[Yapper73]

To think he should resign for this blatant lie that suits his agenda. What an absolute arse.

He was on Joe Rogans podcast and the headlines are true. https://news.sky.com/story/fury-as-restore-britain-leader-rupert-lowe-describes-dunblane-tragedy-as-one-murder-13561888

This is from the transcript of the podcast. He actually said it - “ffectively, they are trying to make that very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you probably know, they banned handguns.
The 90s, right?
In the late 90s, because there was a murder up in Dunblane.
One murder.
One murder. So everybody, my father used to shoot pistols for Oxford University, and he had, he's dead now, bless him, but he had, all his pistols were taken away, the gun, the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University. I mean, we now have a society which needs radical change, and we need to release the individual.”

From The Joe Rogan Experience: #2524 - Rupert Lowe, 8 Jul 2026
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-joe-rogan-experience/id360084272?i=1000775995609&r=1741
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Yes because there were never any rape gangs before the Sharia Law courts “took ova are cuntry” 🙄

I debated whether or not to reply to this, because I don't want people saying that I clearly think even one rape or murder is okay when I don't, but I think facts are important. Official data does not support the figure of 250,000 girls raped by grooming gangs - Rupert Lowe's report used an unverified mathematical extrapolation to calculate the potential scale of historic abuse.
Independent agencies state that an accurate national count of victims is impossible due to inconsistent data across the justice system and local authorities. (It's probably also worth pointing out that a 2023 review by His Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services found that most suspects and offenders in recorded cases were white, contrary to claims that offenders belong to a single ethnic group.)

Partly agree. I still think awareness is not yet fully achieved on the issue of rape gangs. The issue has been hijacked for political capital, sure, but that's only been possible because of sustained and repeated failures to adequately acknowledge the issues.

@AgnesX " if people want to use it then it's up to them". So, you think stoning and whipping is acceptable forms of punishment for adultery in a British, Western, Christian country?!

You are very much part of the problem.

Its used for religious guidance in civil and marriage cases. Where do you get the stoning and whipping in the UK BS from?

Provide me with cold, hard evidence from a reputable source and then I'll change my mind.

You're the one who's the problem peddling lies and misinformation.

I think, if people don't want to get legally married (ie register their marriage with the registry office) but want a non-legally binding religious ceremony and then later, when divorcing, want to choose to follow the religous rules of the same religion they "married" under when dividing assets etc then they should be allowed to do that. It doesn't matter if the religious ceremony followed the rules of the flying spaghetti monster, Judaism or Islam.
I don't think that religious rules should supercede the law of the land. Eg if two people are legally married their divorce etc should be in accordance with UK divorce law. Likewise, I shouldn't be allowed to drink and drive or murder because my religions laws allow it. I can choose not to drink at all if my religion says I shouldn't because under UK law drinking is not mandatory.

Fortunately, the current situation in the UK more or less fits this. If you are legally married you have to follow UK laws on marriage. If you aren't legally married, and wish to dissolve a religious marriage then only the rules of that religion apply (if both parties want them to). This might be Jewish religious law, or Sharia law, or rules I made up yesterday. In the sense that "Sharia law" exists in the UK it is subordinate to UK law just as all other religious laws are. Jewish religious law bans mixing dairy and meat and there are inspectors hired to check that procedures are followed in establishments labelling themselves as Kosher. Those establishments still need to follow UK food safety and employment rules. Likewise Muslim establishments. Neither Muslims, or Jewish people or Jedis have the righr to make non Muslim, non Jewish or non Jedi establishments or individuals follow their religious laws.

Well obviously it wasn't just one murder, it was one act of mass murder, which is probably what he meant, but he worded it terribly.

He was asked twice and he could have clarified it easily.
it was a deliberate obfuscation to portray the UK in a certain light.

Do you think we should loosen restrictions on handguns?

No I don't.

RL is a self serving scumbag who is manipulating people he’d happily see fucking starve to death into believing he is for them. Some of his views are terrifying. Make no mistake he cares about the victims of the grooming gangs. He cares that he can cause division and hatred. I’m happy to be corrected but has he come out and condemned the rise in DV during the World Cup?
The child victims of grooming gangs are from some of the lowest socioeconomic backgrounds in the UK.
Look at the murder of Charlene Downes, whilst it can’t be proven she was killed by the men grooming her, her home life was so riddled with abuse it’s possible that her killer may have been living in her home. The children, the little girls who have been groomed are mostly the girls who have had social services intervention for years, many were looked after children living in residential homes. What has happened to these children has been one of the word systemic failures in our society for decades. Those girls needed education, safety and people to consider them, in their cycles of generational poverty and abuse because it was always a fucking abhorrent and preventable tragedy. These little girls aren’t cared about, they’re now just a fucking pawn in political point scoring.

Perhaps @Monty36 but it really pissed me off. I’m Scottish and from the area and it was headline news and I couldn’t find it mentioned here.

The sixteen children and their teacher should never be forgotten. What happened in Dunblane was horrific and it was such a decisive, proper move by the government to ban handguns, it’s something that should be applauded not lied about. To think people will hear that and believe him is appalling

Can you explain how he is self serving? I have no dog in this fight, just interested to know what you mean by that.

I'm not her, but I'd assume she means because he didn't really mention Grooming gangs prior to 2011, when it still wasn't being talked about. He doesn't (correct me if I'm wrong) seem to have talked about them after 2011 when it was well known about, or advocate for the victims or for changes to prevent it happening again. He didn't even mention it once he entered politics (again correct me if I'm wrong, I did search online and couldn't find anything). He only started talking about it after he fell out with Farage and set up his own rival party.
So, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that his interest comes more from a place of looking for an angle to distinguish himself on the political right. Many people are (justifiably) very angry about the Grooming gangs so it's an emotive topic to pick. But to me, if those are his motivations I would define them as self serving.

And that's before you get into the topic of how you could prevent the sexual exploitation happening again and his tunnel vision on this.

Before 2011 would have been the most helpful since that's when there was a genuine lack of awareness. Maybe he wouldn't have known about it, many people didn't. But immediately after 2011 when everyone would have known about it, he still didn't mention it so....

Just reading his WIKI entry now (which has been VERY swiftly updated to mention the very topic of this discussion) and it says that he donates his MPs salary to local charities every month. He also won 250k in a libel case which he donated to charity.

Doesn't sound very self serving to me.

Are you his wife or PA or something? You seem very very invested in this.

That's absolutely what he meant

What he said was incorrect but it doesn't change the fact the man speaks sense regarding Immigration, NHS, Free speech, BBC, the list goes on.....

So he was incapable (for whatever reason) of saying ‘mass murder’ and shortened it to ‘a murder’.

And then when he was asked to confirm the information, he was again unable to say ‘mass murder’ and repeated ‘a murder’.

Pull the other one.

This is true. I’m waiting to hear how he responds to this furore over him saying one murder instead of one incident.

Really? Well God help you if you think my few short and dull posts on this thread are an example of what looking 'very very invested' in a topic looks like. You should see me when I really am invested. 😂

@Yapper73 I'm also Scottish and was at work when the radio news started reporting,I thought na that Cannae be right.
Unfortunately it was .
It was so shocking that it seemed unbelievable.

So lowes entitled relative had to give up their handgun boo fucking hoot.
Like Farage the man of the people act is just that an act.
Their people are millionaires/billionaires
Not John and Sandra on NMW with kids and col concerns etc.
They really don't give a fuck about them.
John and Sandra type people make up a large percentage of the populace.

It's worse, because the context of Rogans interjection was disbelief that they'd done all that for "just one murder". Him choosing not to correct himself and say it was one incident was absolutely an attempt to mislead on the scale in order to make the response seem more disproportionate.

People are always saying that we should take what people say in context, but the context for Lowe is actually worse.

I get what your saying but do you really think Kier Starmer cared about John and Sandra

Just like he cared about the Pakistani grooming gang victims??

Perhaps not but this about a specific event in Scotland.
When it comes to the grooming gangs those girls were failed by successive govs,the Police,the care system,,social services ,local authorities the mens own communities
None of the above come out it smelling of roses
Full marks to the girls and the whistleblowers for shining a light on it but it shouldn't have taken them to do it.