Count Binface has a genuine chance against Nigel Farage!

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Sounds crazy but…

None of the major parties are competing…

Farage won Clacton with 46% of the vote…

If the 54% united together to vote for Binface, we could have the most preposterous election outcome of all time!

I reckon this could get some genuine momentum… all the other parties would LOVE this result, and even if they didn’t actively campaign for it, would surely quietly be gunning for Binface to win.

That is fantastic. The Count has gotta win with that.

well Clacton already has a joke MP so Binface would be an improvement.

Not in the prisons we can’t. It’s illegal

I really don’t believe Farage will get rid of free health care. He’s surely not stupid enough to pee off the almost entire population?

He wants to be popular soaking people die Bec they can’t afford health care won’t work

Oh don’t be so melodramatic . Brexit caused massive economic harm and getting the corrupt money grubbing m toad who instigated it replaced by a talking bin would be a perfect British response.

No my point is I don’t think Reform will be able to be as far right as what people say.
They won’t employ ice agents ( like Trump did ) they wont deport people who haven’t right to be here legally.
They wont be as extreme as people on here like to think .

The civil service is an establishment that would take years to change anyway

If you think Burnham will save Labour or make the UK any better , I’m prepared to be wrong. But I doubt it.

For everyone who thinks Burnham is our saviour.

They’ve already said they will.

All the supposedly serious politicians are jokes, seems like Binface would be an improvement.

I said when Burnham forced a resignation and a by-election this was a dangerous thing - people forcing by-elections for political gain - and manipulation of the democratic process and yet I recall far less criticism when he did it in his naked grab at power.

Unfortunately looks like this is the new shit, slightly worse than the old shit. The country's poor enough as it is but now every time an MP is put in an uncomfortable position they're going to burn loads of taxpayers money doing this, aren't they? Binface might be less likely to just resign on a whim and try and actually, I don't know, represent his constituents for the full term? So there is that.

So you think Reform are lying to you when they say they will deport people?

Are they lying because they think voters are idiots?

You think they are lying to you but you still want to vote for them?

@Paul2023 what are the positives that would make you vote for them? What about their manifesto makes you think that when they scrap (hard won) employment rights along with human rights it won't affect you? What is your view on the donations Farage is alleged to have accepted?

Again, no need to announce a policy of ending healthcare that is free at the point of use.

You just need to encourage people to spend money on private health care and insurance and reduce funding to the NHS.

He wants to be popular

He wants to make money and can monetise populist politics. That is not the same as having an interest in government. Reform policies are all over the place.

No one answered my previous question. I’m just curious about this one ..

What did Josh Simons get in return for stepping down at Makerfield ? Does anyone know ? What was in it for him ?

I think he's still smarting from Makerfield and wanted to run (and potentially win) against the others so that he could swagger about like he was in May. I don't think it ever entered his head for a second that this would happen and it's hilarious watching him back himself into this extremely uncomfortable corner, drop out and no job or stand in a humiliating by election with a bin.

play stupid games, win stupid prizes as the saying goes! I do wonder what all those Tories who jumped ship to a then riding high Reform think about this. I'd be mortified if the leader of the party I was representing carried on like this.

The most would be a role elsewhere, or a seat in the HoL. What else are you imagining?

Some people do genuinely want to see their political team win, because they believe it's best for the country.

I wouldn't bet on, by that point he would do what he wanted. He might only need 1 term as PM to do all things he wants to and break things more than they are already. Do you really want to risk it? Why on earth would you vote for someone who is saying they would do things you don't agree with? There are plenty of US medical firms who would love to run healthcare in the UK. At US prices.

They have said they want to deport people and have ICE style immigration officers. I know you don't think they will, but why wouldn't they try if that's what they are promising? They aren't having a tantrum and saying outrageous things to get a reaction. These are their intentions if they get into government. Please don't put the desire for disruption above your own interests.

The Telegraph has new owners. Their coverage of Farage is not very friendly. Nor is the Daily Mail, who seem to have decided that Nigel is the story.

It’s a long slow summer and Nigel is now story number one. But his media seems to have disappeared

Indeed.

Josh Simons explains why he stood down to make way for Andy Burnham' - BBC News

I would assume a safe seat should he choose to stand again (if such a thing still exists) and the assurance of employment until then. If he was given a Lamborghini and a villa in Spain and he is elected as an MP he should definitely declare that.

There was nothing illegal about Farage taking money from foreign Crypto billionaires and convicted fraudsters. The point is that he needs to be transparent about his sources of funds so that voters have a proper understanding of his decisions and actions.

Instead he kicked up a fuss and tried to distract with obvious lies.

Oh come on. Give up a £90k a year job to give up your seat ?

So given a seat in the House or Lords ? Well that makes Burnham bad doesn’t it ?

Telling your mate to move over but you’ll give him a job for life in the HoL? Isn’t that bad to you ? It stinks of jobs for the boys. Go quietly without a fuss and I’ll look after you.? What?!

We are taking about our next PM who’s decisions will affect all our lives.

Farage is ultimately just an MP. He isn’t in Government.Im more worried about the conduct of our actual government.

Oh come on. "Peeing off" people is what he loves most.

Once he's replaced the NHS with companies owned by his cronies, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. Surely no one thinks he cares about the population?

So given a seat in the House or Lords ? Well that makes Burnham bad doesn’t it ?

If that is what happens you can make your own judgement because it will all be out in the open.

On the other hand Farage is clearly very anxious about following the rules and making his financial affairs transparent.

Why is Reform proposing an election date? Surely not up to them?

Abolishing VAR, making water companies swim in rivers and bringing back Ceefax I am sure would have a lot of support. All in Count Binface's manifesto.

There’s a lot of “Farage doesn’t mean it”.

If so, why does he say what he does?