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Why is life so unfair

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MyFastZebra · Yesterday 14:31

Does anyone think about this? I just think sometimes that I never had a chance.

I was born into a bad family. My father was cruel when I knew him, then he abandoned us and refused to pay maintenance. So I grew up in poverty. My mother brought us up but was abusive to me. My mother's parents were dead. My fathers parents had nothing to do with ne. My aunts and uncles were all horrible to me.

I had not one person. I remember crying and crying as a child. I'm quite spiritual and I used to meditate as a child. I remember during meditation hearing a voice saying "even if no one else loves you, if you love yourself you'll be ok".

But I haven't been ok. My life has been nothing but struggle. Worse, is the terrible feeling of being alone. I don't have one person.

I look around and I see people going for dinner with aunts , having a great relationship with grandparents. It upsets me.

I'm 42 now and I feel sad that all my young life is gone. I never enjoyed my teens or twenties as it was a struggle just to survive.

I look at some teenagerss i know now and they are so well supported by parents, grandparents . Their families pay for holidays.

I'll never experience the joy of being an 18 year old teenager going on holiday with my friends. At 18 I had huge burdens and responsibilities.

It's just all so unfair. And the unfairness of it is driving me mad. Why couldnt I have had one person that cared about me. Why did I have to have such a tough life. Why do other people have easy lives and other people have tough lives.

I look at children in the news who are similar to me. They only usually make the news when they are murdered. Preston Davey. There are countless other children who being neglected and unloved. Why is life so unfair. Why does it have to be such a struggle.

Any thoughts?

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notysm · Yesterday 20:22

TheBlueKoala · Yesterday 20:20

? Are you OK?

Wonderful, thanks hope you are too

I have reported this thread. Troll hunting not allowed for obvious reasons. But sometimes it's just nice to name a spade a spade and all that.

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:22

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MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:23

JustBecauseIAm · Yesterday 19:37

Ok. This may be long and I have name changed as there's some fairly personal stuff in this.

I completely get it @MyFastZebra. I grew up like you, horrendous parents; abject poverty (eating dry bread and sitting in a house with no electricity as we'd been cut off, clean clothes were a wish!), my dad was violent, mean and aggressive. My mum suffered but threw me under the bus to save herself, we had golden child and scapegoat dynamic between me and my brother and he was the golden boy who could do no wrong. I was told every single day I was stupid; thick and useless. My dad was a classic narc.
a teacher lied for me on my school report, because in his words, he knew what my dad would do to me if he told the truth about me messing in class. I also suffered CSA from my uncle. On top of all that I was an easy target for bullies too.

It absolutely destroys something fundamental in you when even your parents cant love you. You feel so alone and unlovable and become "old for your years" as there is no other choice.

That said, I'm a year older than you now, and I enjoy my life, it's taken a long time to get there, some serious work along the way, a chunk of reinventing myself and avoiding some triggers too. (I cannot watch Disney's inside out at all, reduces me to a sobbing mess, the part where it talks about core happy memories and they're being banked, I realised I had less than 5 in my whole life up to 16 years old!).

I married a much milder version of my dad (just the angry shouty part) of a guy who showed me attention and had a wonderful child. Realised when they were 4 years old this wasn't what I wanted for them and went to counselling for that. I've realised focus on fixing the immediate thing that needs fixing, you'll never heal the old stuff fully so unless it impacts right now, a box is perfectly ok to stick it in.

Take the small wins; you are absolutely not weak. If you were you wouldn't be standing solid right now, your foundations may wobble occasionally but they're there and you built them. That makes you incredible. Most people have others building their foundations and you created your own from chaos.

So right now you have an issue with some awful bullies at work. Work on fixing that. Is it self confidence, are there any books that can help on that. Can you get support on that from a union at work to address the issues. Look at another job etc.
start thinking "fuck you" at them every time they're mean and hold your head high. Anything that changes a little bit how you feel will all help.

When my child hit preteens I realised I was being shouty and aggressive at times. I can't fix my childhood, but I did take myself off for some epic (and blooming expensive) parenting classes from someone who specialised in helping parents when they came from a tough background. I worked on that and completely changed the outlook of our house by doing that work. It doesn't fix the underlying issue I had, but I can work on the here and now and know I can be better. I just sometimes need help to get there.

Can you help others who grew up in your situation, I volunteer for a charity that provides beds to children who don't have them. It's my little bit of paying it forward to acknowledge it's still there for a lot of people and if I can help make someone's life easier then that all helps them in future.

Only you can decide how to move forward. It's fine to sit and cry at the unfairness of it all, because it is unfair, but if you only sit and cry you never find the small glimmers in life. You've got your own place, you can have a coffee in your own place and know you're safe, because that's your peace.
You're strong and kickass, with a few wobbles. Look for the glimmers. FlowersFlowers

Back to the kind posts.

Thanks for sharing that. It's very helpful.

Well done on all you've achieved.

Also it's great that you are volunteering for that charity. I'm proud of you

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notysm · Yesterday 20:24

No need to report me, I had already reported my post to MN for troll hunting
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MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:25

WalkTalk · Yesterday 19:46

So sorry you’re feeling this way OP. Nature, meditation are both good habits to heal. I really feel for you and am hoping life gets better for you. I agree therapists aren’t great.

Yes nature and meditation are lovely arent they. I've just gone for a walk. I'm walking to a park right now

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Nervousb2b · Yesterday 20:25

Hey, sorry you feel this way - it sucks and I've been there momentarily throughout life.

I really recommend watching or listening to Eckhart Tolle (or similar). Your current mindset isn't going to help you get the enjoyment out of life that you deserve!

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:28

Nervousb2b · Yesterday 20:25

Hey, sorry you feel this way - it sucks and I've been there momentarily throughout life.

I really recommend watching or listening to Eckhart Tolle (or similar). Your current mindset isn't going to help you get the enjoyment out of life that you deserve!

Thanks i read Eckhart book a while ago. Not for a while. I must read it again

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Violinorbanjo · Yesterday 20:28

notysm · Yesterday 20:17

Some unusual threads on Mumsnet today.

Just the opposite, this website is filled with suffering humans. Do you have problem with people who suffer?

Iamthemoom · Yesterday 20:30

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 14:38

Thank you. I've been to therapy and it hasn't worked for me.

I'm more wondering, those of you who had very little support in life, how did you get through life?

By deciding to change my attitude to life.

I experienced severe childhood neglect and abuse, rape as a teenager, domestic violence in my 20s, debt and infertility in my 30s but then at 33 I made a decision to change my life and change my luck. And it took a lot of hard work but by 35 it had all changed.

I used positive thinking, visualisation and manifestation practices to change my fortune, my career, my relationships and my financial situation.

I have my dream job, live in a lovely home, have a wonderful DH and DD. I’m happy and don’t dwell on my terrible childhood or the things I never had. And I owe all of it to myself.

It might not be a popular view but I think it’s a choice - not as a child of course but as an adult. You can choose to be happy, to be positive, to be a force for good in the world, to focus on the tiny things you have to be grateful for (and soon you’ll have big things to be grateful for). Or you can stay in a spiral of self pity and sadness and keep attracting more bad things into your life.

Take back control, stop focusing on what you don’t have, start with gratitude for what you do have. Your life, your health, a chance - all things poor Preston Davey had stolen from him.

Barbarella73 · Yesterday 20:35

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 19:58

Thank you. Yes you're right. It's like that clip in the film where Robin Williams talks to Matt damon. Good will Hunting is the film

Matt Damon had been an abused child and Robin Williams was his therapist. Robin Williams keep saying to him "it wasn't your fault" Until he finally gets through to him

Abused children usually blame them selves.

Abused children do blame themselves, absolutely. Because they see adults as being more knowing, and somehow superior. But when you are an abused child, you grow into an adult who then has choices - you can internalise what your abuser made you feel (worthless, usually) or you can ‘think’ your way out of it, rather than feel. This is a great thing!

You mention Good Will Hunting - and the brilliant scene where Robin Williams’ character keeps repeating to Matt Damon’s character that it’s not his fault. It’s a powerful scene. But I think may be more powerful to question our feelings, rather than waiting for someone else to tell us what is or isn’t true. I mean, if the Robin Williams character wasn’t such a nice guy, and told Matt Damon that it WAS his fault, it would have been a very different movie, right? Poor old Matt mightn’t ever have left for a bright future with Minnie Driver!

But imagine if the Matt Damon character had been able to really look objectively at himself and say ‘Hey, I was a child. I didn’t have control over anything in my life. I had no say in what adults did to me. It wasn’t my fault - I was a child and had no way out’. Then he wouldn’t have needed anyone else to tell him it wasn’t his fault.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that it’s important not to depend solely on other people for our sense of self. Tune into your thoughts. Challenge your inner voice (if you really listen, you will find that the voice is actually someone else’s!). Check to see if there is any ‘evidence’ that supports what you are feeling. Ask your inner voice ‘who says?’ whenever it says anything negative.

Find your own voice OP. She is in there.

Squidward2026 · Yesterday 20:37

OP having read your whole thread my heart goes out to you. What happened to you when you were 7 and beyond is tbh beyond the comprehension of most people in terms of how horrific it was and how much unbelievable courage you have. My heart absolutely goes out to you.

For anyone that has posted nasty/unkind stuff on this thread when the OP has already explained the borrific abuse she experienced as a small child...you should be deeply, deeply ashamed.

Ariel896 · Yesterday 20:39

Roseonthebalcony · Yesterday 14:54

Don’t be so unsympathetic!!!!!! OP has poured her heart out and that’s your reply???

I felt nothing but sadness and sympathy reading that, you should be ashamed!!!!!

I totally agree! Show some empathy ffs!!!

KeptWomanSummer · Yesterday 20:41

All we can do is make the best of the situation we have.

Most people have difficult times. Many people have some really shit hard times.

Comparison is the thief of joy regardless of what time you’re in.

What I’ll never do is begrudge a child for having something I don’t.

My aim is to protect my children from the shit times I had, the abusive crap I had to live with.

Stewing over things in the past of things out of my control won’t serve me in any positive way at all.

Livelovebehappy · Yesterday 20:43

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 14:45

I haven't included all of my abuse in my OP. But yes I was also sexually assaulted over a long time like many abused children are.

The point is that Preston Davey suffered severe cruelty and sexual abuse. And also a lack of love. It made me upset thinking of him, thinking of myself and thinking of other people I know who went through horrible lives. It's just awful

I can absolutely see why the death and media coverage of Preston would trigger you. Only when someone has walked in your shoes would they appreciate the huge impact it has had on you when you’re subjected to abuse; when you can’t have a normal childhood like your friends and peers. I had a less than perfect childhood, although no physical or sexual abuse. Just emotional neglect. And it follows you around. I actually get more upset about it now than I did in my twenties. But I guess all you can do is move forward, because you can’t change the past. How you do it though, I’ve no idea.

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:47

KeptWomanSummer · Yesterday 20:41

All we can do is make the best of the situation we have.

Most people have difficult times. Many people have some really shit hard times.

Comparison is the thief of joy regardless of what time you’re in.

What I’ll never do is begrudge a child for having something I don’t.

My aim is to protect my children from the shit times I had, the abusive crap I had to live with.

Stewing over things in the past of things out of my control won’t serve me in any positive way at all.

I don't begrudge them having it. I just think 'why couldn't I have had it'.

I know it's pointless. But I think everyone would like a mother and father. Everyone would like a childhood where they weren't sexually abused.

I'm just tired. It's been 42 years of a long, hard slog.

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Wickedlittledancer · Yesterday 20:48

This is a hard read, I can tell you what I did. I don’t know if it will help.

i was very badly abused. I won’t go into detail. But as an adult I’ve a happy life. My own family. A successful job.

i never fhouvht I was the issue, i always felt it was them. I had good friends and was popular. No one knew what happened at home. We also lived in severe poverty.

when I left, I told everyone what fhey did, not for sympathy or understanding. I wasn’t interested in that.But to shame them. And I’m now no contact.

i don’t think on it. If I find myself mentally going there, which I do every now and again, i immediately tell myself not to think about it, and I think about something else. I tell myself it was all them, it was literally nothing to do with me, I didn’t cause it, as a child I couldn’t stop it. And I crack on with my life. Which has been lovely ans such a relief not to deal with that anymore. To live life on my terms.

my brother wallows in it, can’t let it go, he’s single, an alcoholic, drug abuse, crime.as he can’t let it go and focus on living his life. We are both in our fifties.

my life has been happy, successful and full of love. I am I guess very resilient.ive a hard job that doesnt phase me. The stress doesn’t bother me, it would most, because nothing is as stressful as my child hood. My family is my husband and my child. I’ve never wished for different parents or family. It means my child has no family my side, and that’s fine, she’s lots of friends and my husbands family.

so if I could give any advice, it’s you need to try to stop focusing on it, and instead focus on living your life.you only get one shot at it. And only you can make it a good one.

give yourself 10mmins a day to think about it. Then move on. Don’t allow yourself to keep thinking about it. Then make it five mins. Then five mins ever second day and so on, till you stop.

its the only way, as wishing,focusing, therapy isn’t working.so now you need to do something different,

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 20:49

Op, I had mostly the same, abusive father, worn out and indifferent dm.
No long standing intimate relationship, just men who always have their own greedy agenda, so I got rid of them. In the end I gave up looking. Why waste all that effort?

So I focused on career, income etc. Then at 44 found myself pregnant. I had ds, and have spent 18 years having a fab time loving and raising ds. Soon he will leave and I'll start over.

Remember, happiness doesn't have to be in the form of a man. xx

BelieveInCher · Yesterday 20:51

Overbrookanddale · Yesterday 14:43

I’m really sorry but this is what you have said

I look at children in the news who are similar to me. They only usually make the news when they are murdered. Preston Davey

So you have said Preston Davey is ‘similar to you.’ Preston Davey was repeatedly sexually assaulted and killed as a direct result to this.

I have not seen any mention of this in your OP. You have said your mother was abusive and I am sorry about this. I do think perhaps you have an idealised version of young people’s experiences. Yes, many will have a fairly uncomplicated time of things but plenty won’t. My own mother died when I was 16; of course it was very sad and meant I didn’t get to do many of the rites of passages you go through as a teen and young adult.

But the worst thing you can do is sink into a mire of self pity. Therapy inadvertently sometimes encourages this with a fixation on the past rather than a focus on the future.

If you really feel motivated to help children like Preston, why not look into how you can do that through family support work, even fostering. Preston’s happy times were with his foster family, after all.

The OP does not have to share all the details of her childhood with you. The point she was clearly making is that so many children suffer horrific abuse and it’s difficult to come to terms with that. You should never try and force someone to talk about the abuse they have suffered for your benefit.

MargolyesofBeelzebub · Yesterday 20:51

OP I think the suggestions of volunteering with children are really great - it could be a chance to heal your inner child by helping to love and nuture others who need it. I think nurturing others is a fantastic way of healing past traumas because you get to experience that in some way, even if it's from you to another living being. Even plants give you that benefit, and obviously animals too <3 The way my dog looks up at me with pure love melts my heart.

If you're doing a lot of ruminating, I've found that when a thought pops up when I don't want it to, I sort of acknowledge it and thank it for popping up and tell it to go away. Sounds weird but it can work - also giving yourself a time each day to have all those thoughts means you can tell your brain that there is a space for those thoughts later.

I hope you find the peace you deserve. I care about you OP! 😊

SybilEsmeGytha · Yesterday 20:51

Reading your posts i hear a very strong resilient individual looking for empathy and support that has that also has the desire to make changes to experience more happiness.

I agree with a lot of advice shared by PP that talked about focusing on immediate problems and looking for 'glimmers' of positivity.

You clearly have some great insight in what does and doesn't work for you.

One of the insights I noticed was where you talked about enjoying being out in nature and this sounded like it felt positive. Does your current job involve this at all? There's a whole range of careers that could be open to you here and be fulfilling.

You also talked about loneliness. I appreciate this won't be right for everyone but the companionship and comfort and sometimes joyful unconditional love from pets has helped get me through some very tough lonely periods in my life. Might this be something open to you potentially?

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:53

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 18:52

Yes. That was my grandfather. My father was his son. My father should have broke the cycle but my father was just as cold and cruel as my grandfather. I think they didn't know how to love because they were so fucked up themselves.

So yeah fuck the nazis for part of it. But I wish my grandfather and father had got it together to be able to be family to me

So it’s for you to learn to love or whatever

But you have already proven you are breaking the cycle and you aren’t using generational trauma as an excuse to make other people’s lives hell - you are already stronger than them 🌷

MyFastZebra · Yesterday 20:55

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:53

So it’s for you to learn to love or whatever

But you have already proven you are breaking the cycle and you aren’t using generational trauma as an excuse to make other people’s lives hell - you are already stronger than them 🌷

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