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Is this racism?

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cooooola · 07/07/2026 13:13

Basically I was at the pub in the pub and nobody was behind the bar.

I was first in line.

An elderly couple come and and then another man who slams his glass down.

When the bar lady asks "who is first"? I replied me.

The elderly couple say "we have been waiting ages".

And the man next says "I didn't see her".

I felt this was due to me being mixed race.
I felt quite intimidated.

I only popped in for a drink whilst OH has the kids.

I feel any shaken up as the only ethnic person in the place.
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MissBeans83 · Yesterday 18:32

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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 18:35

Lndnmummy · Yesterday 17:22

Or maybe what the OP experienced is, you know, what she SHE felt it was. This endless whataboutery is gaslighting in its finest form. And its shit. Really really shit.

But this doesn’t make any sense. OP is not a mind reader and the people present said nothing racist so what possible information is she using to conclude that it was a racist encounter?

It appears to be that she is mixed race in which case, literally every negative interaction will be attributed to racism.

What conclusion would you and @cooooola have drawn if the people at the bar were black or brown?

Sometimeswinning · Yesterday 18:51

Lndnmummy · Yesterday 17:18

@MissBeans83 posts are some of the very few posts that don't make me cringe tbh. What is cringeworthy is people telling the OP that she isn't experiencing what she is experiencing.

She doesn’t know what shes experiencing. She felt uncomfortable in a bar where she nearly wasn’t served in the right order. But she was.

The whole point of her question. Was this racism? Yes or no is the answer. If she felt it was racism then why ask?

Wordsmithery · Yesterday 18:55

Happened to me loads. White female. People are just rude and unobservant.

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 20:54

Wordsmithery · Yesterday 18:55

Happened to me loads. White female. People are just rude and unobservant.

And men wanting a pint at a bar are more likely to try and elbow out women. I’ve had it done to me more times than I can count.

worldshottestmom · Yesterday 20:58

I cannot see this being racism. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. No-one can definitively say. What I will say is that people are going to roll their eyes and sigh at this kinda thing, as it is commonplace that when a POC is inconvenienced they immediately pull the racism card. It isn't always racism. Some people are just cunts and don't want to wait in a queue. If anything, I would assume it was because you're a woman on your own. If you had a big scary man with you, I doubt that they would have said anything.

worldshottestmom · Yesterday 21:00

Wordsmithery · Yesterday 18:55

Happened to me loads. White female. People are just rude and unobservant.

Yeah I see this as an issue of her being a woman rather than a POC. As if if she was white they would have bowed down, courtesied and laid a red carpet out for her. Jfc.

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 21:02

worldshottestmom · Yesterday 21:00

Yeah I see this as an issue of her being a woman rather than a POC. As if if she was white they would have bowed down, courtesied and laid a red carpet out for her. Jfc.

That’s a good test actually. Would a white woman have been treated the same in that situation? Most probably yes.

Allonthesametrain · Yesterday 21:04

Are you a short, not particularly young woman? You were in competition with an elderly couple and a loudmouth, it's up to us to speak up and pronounce ME. Then thank you I would like...

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