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Update: I told my family about my relationship with my sister's ex

371 replies

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

AIBU to pursue a future with my sister's ex-husband? | Mumsnet

I have gone back and forth about posting this because I know people will have strong opinions, but I genuinely don't know whether I've completely lost...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

OP posts:
WhatTheHellsGoingOn · Yesterday 18:07

I don’t know if that has been said - but are you not worried there may be an element of he’s with you, or followed up the ONS initially as a ‘fuck you’ to his ex wife who has moved on with a new husband and 3 children, however subconscious maybe?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:08

BunnyLake · Yesterday 17:58

I had a ons at 34, my one and only time. Why is it just for 20 somethings?

I just think it’s very sad generally to have a one night stand after your 20s. That’s my opinion though and others’ may vary.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:09

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:08

I just think it’s very sad generally to have a one night stand after your 20s. That’s my opinion though and others’ may vary.

Why is it sad? I had a ons with someone I already knew. Nothing sad about it. People over 30 don’t need your pity!

Ilovemychocolate · Yesterday 18:09

I don’t think you care what anyone says, unless they are showing you support of course.
I have a sister who I love to bits, I could never betray her the way you have yours.
She will be deeply, deeply upset over your actions, not least that you’ve lied to her for a year, I’d imagine she is now analysing her whole relationship with him, and dreading the awkwardness of future family get togethers.
However none of that really matters to you does it?
You say you love your sister, in reality I think you know you have been extremely selfish and self centred.
But hey ho, you’ve got your man, you’ve confessed all so that’s a weight off your mind, and now you can sail off into the sunset and carry on having the best sex of your life, as you said yourself.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:10

frecklejuice · Yesterday 18:05

Women are perfectly entitled to have a one night stand at any age, casual sex doesn’t have an age cut off point. You’re just lucky that you obviously met someone and you no longer needed to date or have sex with different people when you fancied some.

Also you obviously care because you’re here and posting 🤷‍♀️

I meant generally care not just me care!

No, I didn’t actually meet “the one” earlier. I just made it a rule in my 30s and onwards not to . have sex unless I was in a relationship.

nomas · Yesterday 18:10

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:08

I just think it’s very sad generally to have a one night stand after your 20s. That’s my opinion though and others’ may vary.

Talk about smug.

So what about women who don’t find a man they want to marry or have an LTR with? Should they remain celibate? Join a nunnery?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:13

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:09

Why is it sad? I had a ons with someone I already knew. Nothing sad about it. People over 30 don’t need your pity!

I really can’t be bothered explaining myself to you but randomly having one night stands isn’t for me and similar for most of my friends and family. That’s probably what I go on. No we don’t all shame each other if one falls by the wayside. As we all know we (my friends and family in my case) generally follow similar patterns that way.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:17

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:10

I meant generally care not just me care!

No, I didn’t actually meet “the one” earlier. I just made it a rule in my 30s and onwards not to . have sex unless I was in a relationship.

So no need to scoff (“Jesus Wept”) because other people don’t necessarily just have sex within a relationship. I had the ons with a work colleague who I fancied and because he was going back to his home country of America the coming weekend I thought ok I’d better make a move as I’m never going to see him again 😂 That was over thirty years ago, my one and only ons. It was fun 🤭

FoldItIn · Yesterday 18:18

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:31

But still the best I’ve ever had

I wonder if he was the best your sister ever had 😂
Ew.

BobbysDazzler · Yesterday 18:19

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:34

Yeah and you will go to your grave knowing he thought your sister was better.

Think your sister found your thread! @Plumzingy1

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:19

nomas · Yesterday 18:10

Talk about smug.

So what about women who don’t find a man they want to marry or have an LTR with? Should they remain celibate? Join a nunnery?

Edited

That pp has very high morals don't you know, so yes a nunnery it is!

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:20

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:08

I just think it’s very sad generally to have a one night stand after your 20s. That’s my opinion though and others’ may vary.

It’s good you met someone. Some of us ie me aren’t that lucky into our 30s are people just supposed to be celibate then.

You’re allowed your opinion but I don’t think it should be judgment on single women over thirties having sex/ons

OP posts:
BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:20

FoldItIn · Yesterday 18:18

I wonder if he was the best your sister ever had 😂
Ew.

No, her current husband is better 😁

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:20

BobbysDazzler · Yesterday 18:19

Think your sister found your thread! @Plumzingy1

Ahaha

OP posts:
Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:21

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:20

No, her current husband is better 😁

Agreed. She is very happy with her husband

OP posts:
Robogob · Yesterday 18:22

Well done OP. Be happy. X

FoldItIn · Yesterday 18:23

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:20

No, her current husband is better 😁

Can you imagine having sex with a man KNOWING he is comparing you to your sister? I just cannot.
Fair play to you @Plumzingy1 you are a braver woman than me.
If you sister has moved on to er, bigger and better things, then I hope she comes round soon enough.

BobbysDazzler · Yesterday 18:24

Seriously though OP, wishing you both l the best, love is a funny thing and crops up in odd places at sometimes the wrong place, but you are working with what you have. Life gave you some lemons and now you have some amazing lemon drizzle cake (I mean, who wants lemonade!?) 🍋

Cremant · Yesterday 18:24

NoCommentingFromNowOn · Yesterday 13:59

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should

This is all you need to focus on.

I hope you both continue to be happy! ❤️

This. Many times over.

JHound · Yesterday 18:31

Wow.

Well I hope it works out but will all the men that exist on the planet I cannot fathom going out with the ex of a sibling.

JHound · Yesterday 18:33

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:47

A one night stand at 36? Jesus wept. I got all that over with in my 20s.

I can’t talk though re your other part, as I’ve been engaged twice too. Wedding booked for first one.

Also, why post re your update? Who cares? You wouldn’t be posting if he ditched you and none of your family were speaking to you so it comes across as a tad smug and perfectly normal. Which it certainly isn’t.

Why is there an age limit on ONS? If somebody is single but wants to have sex why is it fine at 26 but a problem at 36?

Frugalgal · Yesterday 18:36

FoldItIn · Yesterday 18:23

Can you imagine having sex with a man KNOWING he is comparing you to your sister? I just cannot.
Fair play to you @Plumzingy1 you are a braver woman than me.
If you sister has moved on to er, bigger and better things, then I hope she comes round soon enough.

Why would he compare her to her sister any more than any other woman he's had sex with ? She's just an incompatible ex from the distant past.

If you were going to worry about that kind of thing you could be worrying about the thinnest, hottest, most recent, most skilled in bed, most uninhibited, perkiest titted....

Frugalgal · Yesterday 18:37

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 14:01

The story that changed so much we almost got whiplash …

It didn't change at all.

JHound · Yesterday 18:37

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:08

I just think it’s very sad generally to have a one night stand after your 20s. That’s my opinion though and others’ may vary.

Why? Why is there an age cut off? Why is it ok at 29 but sad at 31?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · Yesterday 18:38

Good luck, go for it! There don’t seem any red flags!

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