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Update: I told my family about my relationship with my sister's ex

371 replies

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

AIBU to pursue a future with my sister's ex-husband? | Mumsnet

I have gone back and forth about posting this because I know people will have strong opinions, but I genuinely don't know whether I've completely lost...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

OP posts:
LastOnePlease · Yesterday 17:45

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · Yesterday 17:20

I’m glad it worked out for you but the thought of shagging someone who had shagged my sister makes me want to bawk… maybe that’s just because we have very different tastes. I do think your relationship with your sister is going to change and I think you’ve put your parents in a bit of a difficult position, which is fine if he’s the one but if he’s not you’re gonna look a right tit.

I absolutely agree. I think it’s quite disgusting to be honest.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:46

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:40

As said, we all have different opinions, and we all get if your husband divorced you you’d be all good with your brother or sister shagging them immediatly. I’d not even shag my friends ex husbands never mind my siblings. You would. That’s ok.

im not ok with it and wont be, and you wont argue me into being, I think its utterly icky from both of them. And I suspect she competed with her sister, and he has been unable to find someone else, and they both have poor motivations;

I’m not arguing you into being okay with it. Everyone is different, everyone has different expectations of people around them. Some people don’t care some people do it would be odd if everyone in the world agreed all the time.

I would nenet stop someone from finding happiness. Just because someone isn’t for me doesn’t mean they can’t be for someone else that can be my friend or sibling. No children are involved there’s no ties. I’ve never been mad at my friend for marrying my ex. Him and I did not work out we were not comparable. He’s been far more compatible with my friend life goes on and life’s too short

OP posts:
Figgygal · Yesterday 17:46

Good luck to you op
Ignore the haters on here you've done nothing wrong, your family are the only people's opinions who matter shameful projection and nonsense coming from people on here

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:47

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 17:45

I absolutely agree. I think it’s quite disgusting to be honest.

Ahaha I agree it’s very disgusting 🤮

OP posts:
Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:47

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:41

Yeah that’s how one night stands work. I’ve had enough to know. I didn’t expect to hear from him we’d both been drinking I did regret it and felt terrible then he messaged and we met up no alcohol involved and it was just so natural. I probably should have stopped it there but I did not and here we are now. Not my best moment but it’s happened now. I’ve been engaged before because I thought I had to just say yes, I have turned down 2 other engagements.

I’ve never met someone that I was truly happy with till now. My relationship with my sister will survive she even joked it’ll be a family joke.

He’s a great guy and makes me happy so I’d rather give it a go and see where it goes. Circumstances are not great but all we can do is try I don’t know the future it might not work out or it might or I might never meet the ‘one’. I’ll just have to come to terms with that same way I’ve come to terms with the fact that I’ll never have any biological children as we most likely won’t have biological children I’ll be too old and not looking to try having children in my 40s.

A one night stand at 36? Jesus wept. I got all that over with in my 20s.

I can’t talk though re your other part, as I’ve been engaged twice too. Wedding booked for first one.

Also, why post re your update? Who cares? You wouldn’t be posting if he ditched you and none of your family were speaking to you so it comes across as a tad smug and perfectly normal. Which it certainly isn’t.

NeverLookInTheMirror · Yesterday 17:47

I don’t see the big deal.

They were together years ago. The relationship didn’t work out. It’s not as if he left the sister for the OP or the OP lured him away, and she’s now married to someone else.

If anything I’d be feeling a bit insecure if I were the new husband if the sister had been upset, given the relationship is supposedly over.

As for people telling the OP her parents would disown her, well this is MN, a place where people love nothing more than to see the destruction of a family. The words NC are pretty much thrown around here like confetti every time someone does something someone else doesn’t like “just go NC.” It’s a bloody weird outlook on life, but MN’ers love it. The more broken the family, the more they love it. So it stands to reason that given the OP’s family have said they want her to be happy there will be some who are hoping that they’ll still disown her later and will blame her for destroying a family which no longer existed anyway.

I know someone whose dad left his mum for her sister. What’s more, they stayed together, and the family remained close.

I also know someone, although not well, more by association, who split up with her husband and he later married her mother.

It happens. Some don’t get over it, many do.

And the fact that they’re sisters it stands to reason that they could possibly become attracted to the same kind of people, so it’s not beyond the realms of weird that they could both end up falling for one.

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:47

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:46

I’m not arguing you into being okay with it. Everyone is different, everyone has different expectations of people around them. Some people don’t care some people do it would be odd if everyone in the world agreed all the time.

I would nenet stop someone from finding happiness. Just because someone isn’t for me doesn’t mean they can’t be for someone else that can be my friend or sibling. No children are involved there’s no ties. I’ve never been mad at my friend for marrying my ex. Him and I did not work out we were not comparable. He’s been far more compatible with my friend life goes on and life’s too short

Yeah so if was nothing like this in terms of relationship with you and this ex and your sister and her husband.

as said, I don’t fuck my friends ex husbands, never minds my siblings, some do though, as you can see.

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 17:50

Your friend is very different to your sister. It’s not at all the same comparison.

I think this is most likely a wind up thread. You sound deeply unpleasant and, if this is true which I doubt, devoid of any morals.

I wish you happiness for the future, you very clearly have serious issues either way and I hope you can get the help you need.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:53

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:33

I don’t think it’s inflicted distress on my parents ? Since they’d like to come join us for dinner but we shall see.

I think humans get over a lot of things it’ll funny my family doesn’t take themselves too seriously we have lots of family running jokes and this will just be one of them.

Your family must be very different to mine then. We don’t have running jokes about things like this. If I did this to my 7 year’s younger half sister (we were close but not speaking now) which I wouldn’t do, I’d expect all the wrath and crossfire from this to come straight back at me and the man involved. And I’d probably end up breaking up with him as I don’t think I could live with myself. But you do you.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 17:53

I’m happy things went smoothly with the family. One woman’s trash is another woman’s treasure.
Their marriage is long over. Thankfully your Dsis was understanding.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:54

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 17:50

Your friend is very different to your sister. It’s not at all the same comparison.

I think this is most likely a wind up thread. You sound deeply unpleasant and, if this is true which I doubt, devoid of any morals.

I wish you happiness for the future, you very clearly have serious issues either way and I hope you can get the help you need.

Well you’re like me one of the haters who doesn’t want OP to be happy and actually have things in their lives called morals.

Olliepollie23 · Yesterday 17:54

I wish you the best of luck OP, I think you’re going to need it. As time goes on, it may not an easy ride for you.

BunnyLake · Yesterday 17:58

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:47

A one night stand at 36? Jesus wept. I got all that over with in my 20s.

I can’t talk though re your other part, as I’ve been engaged twice too. Wedding booked for first one.

Also, why post re your update? Who cares? You wouldn’t be posting if he ditched you and none of your family were speaking to you so it comes across as a tad smug and perfectly normal. Which it certainly isn’t.

I had a ons at 34, my one and only time. Why is it just for 20 somethings?

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:59

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:47

A one night stand at 36? Jesus wept. I got all that over with in my 20s.

I can’t talk though re your other part, as I’ve been engaged twice too. Wedding booked for first one.

Also, why post re your update? Who cares? You wouldn’t be posting if he ditched you and none of your family were speaking to you so it comes across as a tad smug and perfectly normal. Which it certainly isn’t.

Yes because I was single and I like sex so why not it’s my body. You don’t need to judge me for that. As long as it’s consensual and safe why does it matter if you’re 30, 80, 60.

I would post if it wasn’t great. It’s not great we aren’t all a happy family ready to blend. I just haven’t been ‘disowned’ I don’t think there’s many families who’d disown someone (at least not mine) but what do I know. I do know my family.

So you know what it’s like to be unhappy, I’ve spent a lot of my time being sad and very depressed about my life. I’ve had awful luck with men, 36, still having one night stands, no children, no husband just me it would be great to share my life with someone and that’s what I’m doing now. Yes there’s billions of men in the world I could have done that with but this is the situation I am in. It’s not great but I’m happy he makes me happy as someone who has been sad for a very long time maybe he’ll ditch me in the long run as you hope but I’ve never regretted love I’ll just have to accept that. People get over things life also goes on.

OP posts:
BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:00

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:54

Well you’re like me one of the haters who doesn’t want OP to be happy and actually have things in their lives called morals.

You’re also very judgemental generally.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:00

Olliepollie23 · Yesterday 17:54

I wish you the best of luck OP, I think you’re going to need it. As time goes on, it may not an easy ride for you.

I will need all the luck I can get. Thank you :)

OP posts:
frecklejuice · Yesterday 18:00

It must feel like such a relief to finally have it all out in the open, it definitely won’t always be smooth and sometimes it will be awkward but it will be ok. I wish you lots of happiness ❤️

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 18:01

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:54

Well you’re like me one of the haters who doesn’t want OP to be happy and actually have things in their lives called morals.

Isn’t it strange how not supporting this person willingly sleeping and then beginning a relationship with her sisters ex-husband is considered being uncool, unkind or wishing people unhappiness?

I think if you don’t have any internal value system navigating life must be very confusing. And many don’t clearly. Also I can only imagine what this man’s friends say…

Anyway, best of luck OP. You are very lucky to have the family you do. If this isn’t some weird attention seeking fantasy story…

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:02

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:53

Your family must be very different to mine then. We don’t have running jokes about things like this. If I did this to my 7 year’s younger half sister (we were close but not speaking now) which I wouldn’t do, I’d expect all the wrath and crossfire from this to come straight back at me and the man involved. And I’d probably end up breaking up with him as I don’t think I could live with myself. But you do you.

Each family is different. Same way each person is different I’m not telling other families what to do or how to react to things they’re allowed to feel how they feel

OP posts:
Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:02

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 18:01

Isn’t it strange how not supporting this person willingly sleeping and then beginning a relationship with her sisters ex-husband is considered being uncool, unkind or wishing people unhappiness?

I think if you don’t have any internal value system navigating life must be very confusing. And many don’t clearly. Also I can only imagine what this man’s friends say…

Anyway, best of luck OP. You are very lucky to have the family you do. If this isn’t some weird attention seeking fantasy story…

I haven’t said it’s uncool. No one’s expected to like it ?

OP posts:
LastOnePlease · Yesterday 18:03

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:00

You’re also very judgemental generally.

Ha, sometimes judgement is a good thing. Sometimes shame is a good thing. Sometimes feeling those things is because you have done something shameful.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 18:04

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 18:03

Ha, sometimes judgement is a good thing. Sometimes shame is a good thing. Sometimes feeling those things is because you have done something shameful.

I agree it’s shameful I should be banished off the earth since I am the first ever person to commit such a crime

OP posts:
frecklejuice · Yesterday 18:05

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 17:47

A one night stand at 36? Jesus wept. I got all that over with in my 20s.

I can’t talk though re your other part, as I’ve been engaged twice too. Wedding booked for first one.

Also, why post re your update? Who cares? You wouldn’t be posting if he ditched you and none of your family were speaking to you so it comes across as a tad smug and perfectly normal. Which it certainly isn’t.

Women are perfectly entitled to have a one night stand at any age, casual sex doesn’t have an age cut off point. You’re just lucky that you obviously met someone and you no longer needed to date or have sex with different people when you fancied some.

Also you obviously care because you’re here and posting 🤷‍♀️

Beachtastic · Yesterday 18:05

Hooray OP, really pleased for you. You sound level-headed and I hope it all works out. I'm sure it will because you wouldn't lightly have committed to something that was potentially a family minefield, although there is no reason for it to be! Glad your family are approaching it with maturity and common sense.

Don't get into arguments on here with judgemental loonies who can only think in the crudest terms of genitals and a spouse as eternal property!

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:06

LastOnePlease · Yesterday 18:03

Ha, sometimes judgement is a good thing. Sometimes shame is a good thing. Sometimes feeling those things is because you have done something shameful.

Judging women generally for having a one night stand in their 30s is judgemental and not something to shame a woman over. Perhaps that OP would like to clarify why she feels that way.