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AIBU?

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Update: I told my family about my relationship with my sister's ex

370 replies

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

AIBU to pursue a future with my sister's ex-husband? | Mumsnet

I have gone back and forth about posting this because I know people will have strong opinions, but I genuinely don't know whether I've completely lost...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

OP posts:
Summervibes83 · Yesterday 18:38

BunnyLake · Yesterday 18:09

Why is it sad? I had a ons with someone I already knew. Nothing sad about it. People over 30 don’t need your pity!

Yes, there is no reason for that apart from that the poster thinks it "should" be that way. I find it very sad when people limit themselves because of a perception of how things "should" be. If it doesn't affect or hurt you, why are you bothered? The older I get, the more I think judgmental is one of the worst things a person can be tbh. If it doesn't hurt anyone, live and let live.

JHound · Yesterday 18:38

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 18:10

I meant generally care not just me care!

No, I didn’t actually meet “the one” earlier. I just made it a rule in my 30s and onwards not to . have sex unless I was in a relationship.

That’s a fine rule but why is that rule only applied at 30+?

Random321 · Yesterday 18:40

Your siater is a far better person that I would ever be.

I could never get over a sibling prioritising their relationship with me ex over their relationship with me.

I think there is something seriously wrong with you and your sister's ex.

MrSchubertWhiskers · Yesterday 18:41

Once you decided to tell your sister, I think you've been both very brave and very mature about it - as has she. Kudos to you both.

Honestly, you sound like a strong family unit and given how the chat went,I think you have every chance of making a success of it and coming together as a family in the future - I'm genuinely pleased for you.

If more people took yours and your sister's approach to communication - open, honest, transparent, low pressure and willingness to listen - we'd all be much happier.

I read, and commented, on your first post - simply told you to talk to her. I admit I was shocked by the situation you found yourself in, but what came across to me in your first thread, and this one, is your strength of character.

Wish you all the best, op

nomas · Yesterday 18:41

JHound · Yesterday 18:37

Why? Why is there an age cut off? Why is it ok at 29 but sad at 31?

Because at midnight on our 30th birthdays, our lady bits become shrivelled prunes.

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 18:45

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:59

Yes because I was single and I like sex so why not it’s my body. You don’t need to judge me for that. As long as it’s consensual and safe why does it matter if you’re 30, 80, 60.

I would post if it wasn’t great. It’s not great we aren’t all a happy family ready to blend. I just haven’t been ‘disowned’ I don’t think there’s many families who’d disown someone (at least not mine) but what do I know. I do know my family.

So you know what it’s like to be unhappy, I’ve spent a lot of my time being sad and very depressed about my life. I’ve had awful luck with men, 36, still having one night stands, no children, no husband just me it would be great to share my life with someone and that’s what I’m doing now. Yes there’s billions of men in the world I could have done that with but this is the situation I am in. It’s not great but I’m happy he makes me happy as someone who has been sad for a very long time maybe he’ll ditch me in the long run as you hope but I’ve never regretted love I’ll just have to accept that. People get over things life also goes on.

Well I’m sorry you had no luck with men and were depressed but being desperate, is no excuse.

of course it’s not going to work. He’s the morals of an alley cat. But when he bins you off and fucks your mate. Remember how good it is to do that.

Andepeda · Yesterday 18:46

I don't get what the problem is. Sounds like everyone is living the life they want, no kids involved, no heartache for anyone.

Slightly mystified by the vitriol heaped upon you OP. 🤷‍♀️ x

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 18:53

Does anyone else not think the ‘we want you to be happy’ is the polite way of saying you are going to do what you want anyway and we don’t want to argue?

Yes, whether or not it was the right thing to say I've known this to happen quite a lot

What would worry me is whether the family, once over their surprise, will start wondering what else they haven't been told, and while they may not say much it's the sort of thing which can prey on minds and sour things

Good luck though, OP - I suspect you'll need it and just hope he's worth it

LettingItAllHangOut · Yesterday 18:57

Besafeeatcake · Yesterday 15:11

Does anyone else not think the ‘we want you to be happy’ is the polite way of saying you are going to do what you want anyway and we don’t want to argue?

OP your family is being polite in the moment and I agree with another poster who says this may get worse before it gets better.

As I said in my last post you don’t seem to care what anyone else thinks. You told them as you didn’t want to hide your relationship not because it was the right thing to do.

Maybe an update on six months will be a more accurate update.

I agree. Time will tell.

Justanothernana · Yesterday 19:00

Good luck OP . I really can’t see the problem. You’re happy your DP is happy your DS and her DH are happy.. nope I can’t see the harm. It might be a bit awkward for five minutes when you all meet up at family events but that’s it.
There’s so much worse that goes on in the world.

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 19:04

I'm glad it is out in the open now and I wish you well.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 19:08

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 18:45

Well I’m sorry you had no luck with men and were depressed but being desperate, is no excuse.

of course it’s not going to work. He’s the morals of an alley cat. But when he bins you off and fucks your mate. Remember how good it is to do that.

We will just have to see how it goes. Maybe he will ditch me it’s not a dictatorship he can leave whenever he wants. Only time will tell. We deserve each other our shitty morals ahaha.

My friends mum married her sisters ex husband and they’re still going in their 70s so I am not the first. I’ve since seen them together I don’t think there’s any bad blood. I don’t think it’s as serious as you’re portraying. Life goes on whatever ‘desperate’ decisions people make.

You don’t need to insult me you can just not engage in the thread and not be so passionate about it.

OP posts:
Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 19:10

LettingItAllHangOut · Yesterday 18:57

I agree. Time will tell.

Agree I don’t expect them to be overjoyed yet. My parents would like to come over for dinner and they want him there….maybe it’s a plot but so far they seem accepting and want to see us together. It’ll be weird but they’re my parents they’ll always support me. I don’t think there’s ever been a moment in my life my parents haven’t supported my decisions their love is unconditional.

But time will tell maybe this will be the thing that breaks their unconditional love.

OP posts:
Snufkin88 · Yesterday 19:12

This just makes me feel sick I’m sorry . I could never ever do something as selfish as this to my sister , my own flesh and blood no matter how strongly I felt about the man. There are so many human beings in the world and I don’t believe in all that soulmate bullshit I just think it’s incredibly selfish and this thread has made me shudder .

lev2002 · Yesterday 19:12

Haven't rtwt

I have to say, I don't have a sister so maybe that affects my perspective. But if I did and they started dating an ex I haven't been with for 7 years I don't know that I would care at all. I think the only thing that would make me care is if I still had feelings for the ex, otherwise why would it matter. Especially not if I was happily married with children.

Katemax82 · Yesterday 19:12

Like I commented on the other thread,I married my sister's ex and their relationship was only 6 months, this happened in my teens so over 26 years ago yet I got loads of people replying to me one saying "you are ick personified". People seem to have very strong opinions on the matter

Dollymylove · Yesterday 19:15

You were both free and single. I would expect your sister and your parents to be mildly shocked but they will come round eventually.
Its your life, nobody else's so hold your head high and be happy

Yabbadabbadooooooo · Yesterday 19:16

I hope it works out and you have a wonderful life together and that you have kids too, your own or adopted, you sound lovely. Don’t bother answering every single whinging, bitter comment on Mumsnet, they just want everyone to be miserable! It just shouldn’t be an issue, especially seven years on, and with your sister being married and having a family. The whinging commenters on here are embarrassing in their holier than thou shock horror over it. Well done on being happy and finding someone. They obviously haven’t.

Beachtastic · Yesterday 19:16

Katemax82 · Yesterday 19:12

Like I commented on the other thread,I married my sister's ex and their relationship was only 6 months, this happened in my teens so over 26 years ago yet I got loads of people replying to me one saying "you are ick personified". People seem to have very strong opinions on the matter

Some people are nuts!! Best to take no notice of them.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 19:17

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 19:12

This just makes me feel sick I’m sorry . I could never ever do something as selfish as this to my sister , my own flesh and blood no matter how strongly I felt about the man. There are so many human beings in the world and I don’t believe in all that soulmate bullshit I just think it’s incredibly selfish and this thread has made me shudder .

Good thing it’s not you :)

OP posts:
PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 19:27

@Plumzingy1 congrats, and support, now enjoy every inch of him, and its a pitty about not having him at christmas as a +1 because at some point there will be the +1 but hope it goes well as best as

SharingMyOpinion · Yesterday 19:28

Have you ever had therapy to talk about this?

Of course you could be two people in true love and happiness and his 7 year relationship with your sister was the blip.

I am sure it’s all subconscious and neither of you seem very self aware. But there is something compelling here to be considered:

  • Like a dog marking his territory he came back to take something from your sister
  • You wanted to have something of hers
  • He wants to replicate the dynamic of the early days with you sister - you’re a do over for him. He’ll repair it this time.
  • He’s familiar with your dynamic, your upbringing, your parents. It’s a shorthand for you to accelerate the relationship.

There’s so much to wonder about. I hope you have some curiosity about your own inner life and his inner life.

There are 4 billion men on the planet. There were very few that were off limits in social terms. Male relations and a few people your sister had relationships with is about it. It’s hugely interesting that you had sex with this man and then continued a relationship.

PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 19:30

SharingMyOpinion · Yesterday 19:28

Have you ever had therapy to talk about this?

Of course you could be two people in true love and happiness and his 7 year relationship with your sister was the blip.

I am sure it’s all subconscious and neither of you seem very self aware. But there is something compelling here to be considered:

  • Like a dog marking his territory he came back to take something from your sister
  • You wanted to have something of hers
  • He wants to replicate the dynamic of the early days with you sister - you’re a do over for him. He’ll repair it this time.
  • He’s familiar with your dynamic, your upbringing, your parents. It’s a shorthand for you to accelerate the relationship.

There’s so much to wonder about. I hope you have some curiosity about your own inner life and his inner life.

There are 4 billion men on the planet. There were very few that were off limits in social terms. Male relations and a few people your sister had relationships with is about it. It’s hugely interesting that you had sex with this man and then continued a relationship.

but why would you need therapy , just to explain that you fallen in love which is natural but it just happened he also dated the sister first ?

diddl · Yesterday 19:30

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · Yesterday 18:38

Good luck, go for it! There don’t seem any red flags!

Some of us would think that shagging your ex's sister is a red flag.

Snufkin88 · Yesterday 19:30

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 19:17

Good thing it’s not you :)

Good thing is right 🙄 there is a reason you posted about this . And that’s cos you know it is not right . Like an ex is one thing but ex-husband . Grim . Could you not find any other man or are you that desperate 🤮

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