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Update: I told my family about my relationship with my sister's ex

370 replies

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

AIBU to pursue a future with my sister's ex-husband? | Mumsnet

I have gone back and forth about posting this because I know people will have strong opinions, but I genuinely don't know whether I've completely lost...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

OP posts:
Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:20

Summervibes83 · Yesterday 17:18

And yet, as I pointed out, so many of us have been looking for half our lives and not found the right person, it's not just a case of interchangeable men.

Oh give over, it’s not mills and boons, it’s a year, ask again in 2o if it’s the right person.

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:20

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · Yesterday 17:19

I really hope this works for you both. You get one life and finding the right person doesn’t happen for everyone. You have to give it a chance given how truly happy you are. Sure, it’s not ideal but you didn’t plan it this way; I think this is one situation where you have to think about your own happiness as she’s found hers. You didn’t cheat or ‘steal him’ - she ended things years ago and no longer wanted him. To sacrifice your happiness for hers when they split mutually so long ago isn’t any fairer.

No he ended it.

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · Yesterday 17:20

I’m glad it worked out for you but the thought of shagging someone who had shagged my sister makes me want to bawk… maybe that’s just because we have very different tastes. I do think your relationship with your sister is going to change and I think you’ve put your parents in a bit of a difficult position, which is fine if he’s the one but if he’s not you’re gonna look a right tit.

SpidersAreShitheads · Yesterday 17:22

”Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should.”

Agreed.

But at the start you weren’t in love with him. You say you thought it was a one-night stand. That’s the icky bit.

You were happy to shag your sister’s ex-husband for a one-night stand. Not for love. Or for feelings. Just for sex.

If you’d met him and feelings had developed over time, and that ended up blossoming into a relationship I agree that it would be daft to walk away.

But deciding to fuck your sister’s ex-husband as a ONS is tacky and pretty disloyal, tbh. That’s the decision that I wouldn’t be able to square - not the stuff that came later. Luckily for you, your sister sounds like a generous soul.

ModernV · Yesterday 17:29

Credit due to your sister, she's far more magnanimous then I would be.

I've been divorced 10 years now, happily re-married with a family, but I would not want to see my ex again and I would think a lot less of my sister in this situation.

Maybe it'll work out for you 🤷‍♀️

Ilovemychocolate · Yesterday 17:30

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 16:14

Why are you so obsessed with the sex side of things ? Jheez relax

That’s a bit rich, seeing as how you commented on the size of his penis in your last thread, and how amazing he was in bed…”best you’ve ever had” I think you said.

Rubyslipperswitch · Yesterday 17:30

I have to say that my first reaction is of all the single men in this world why would you choose your sister's ex?

It might be simplistic of me to think that, but I am afraid this is how I feel and I don't see the need to inflict distress on your sister and your parents by dating this guy.

I would also question his morals and motives.

Not to mention that there will be constant, further awkwardness for your relatives as they will have to interact with you partner at family occasions...

Your sister seems to be a better and more forgiving person than I am because I would have distanced myself from you if I was in your sister's shoes.

I also think you under estimate the impact this will have on your family long term.

All so unwise and unneccessary.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:31

Ilovemychocolate · Yesterday 17:30

That’s a bit rich, seeing as how you commented on the size of his penis in your last thread, and how amazing he was in bed…”best you’ve ever had” I think you said.

Edited

Ahaha It was a joke as people were. I’m not great at sarcasm

OP posts:
Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:31

Ilovemychocolate · Yesterday 17:30

That’s a bit rich, seeing as how you commented on the size of his penis in your last thread, and how amazing he was in bed…”best you’ve ever had” I think you said.

Edited

But still the best I’ve ever had

OP posts:
Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:32

SpidersAreShitheads · Yesterday 17:22

”Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should.”

Agreed.

But at the start you weren’t in love with him. You say you thought it was a one-night stand. That’s the icky bit.

You were happy to shag your sister’s ex-husband for a one-night stand. Not for love. Or for feelings. Just for sex.

If you’d met him and feelings had developed over time, and that ended up blossoming into a relationship I agree that it would be daft to walk away.

But deciding to fuck your sister’s ex-husband as a ONS is tacky and pretty disloyal, tbh. That’s the decision that I wouldn’t be able to square - not the stuff that came later. Luckily for you, your sister sounds like a generous soul.

Yes and so many are missing this point, she met this guy by chance and fucked him immediately, she wasn’t in love. She wanted to fuck her sisters ex husband, the man who ended his marriage to her. And she says she thought she’d probably not here from him again, maybe it was for the best, not she didn’t want to, she wanted to see him again.

so all the protestations of she is in love , she set out to get with this man as soon as she saw him, and was clearly delighted he wanted to see her again.

i doubt this will work out, because i doubt either has good motivations here.

Ilovemychocolate · Yesterday 17:32

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:31

But still the best I’ve ever had

🤮

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:33

Rubyslipperswitch · Yesterday 17:30

I have to say that my first reaction is of all the single men in this world why would you choose your sister's ex?

It might be simplistic of me to think that, but I am afraid this is how I feel and I don't see the need to inflict distress on your sister and your parents by dating this guy.

I would also question his morals and motives.

Not to mention that there will be constant, further awkwardness for your relatives as they will have to interact with you partner at family occasions...

Your sister seems to be a better and more forgiving person than I am because I would have distanced myself from you if I was in your sister's shoes.

I also think you under estimate the impact this will have on your family long term.

All so unwise and unneccessary.

I don’t think it’s inflicted distress on my parents ? Since they’d like to come join us for dinner but we shall see.

I think humans get over a lot of things it’ll funny my family doesn’t take themselves too seriously we have lots of family running jokes and this will just be one of them.

OP posts:
Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:34

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:31

But still the best I’ve ever had

Yeah and you will go to your grave knowing he thought your sister was better.

Summervibes83 · Yesterday 17:35

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:20

Oh give over, it’s not mills and boons, it’s a year, ask again in 2o if it’s the right person.

So? I'm not suggesting it's a fairytale, I'm single in my 40s, I just know it's not easy to find someone who you can even imagine being happy with.

And whatever your thoughts on it, everyone actually in this particular situation is ok with it, so your judgement is pretty irrelevant.

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 17:35

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:20

No he ended it.

I thought that your narrative was that he was madly in love with the sister? Make your mind up!

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:37

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 17:35

I thought that your narrative was that he was madly in love with the sister? Make your mind up!

Are you quite ok, the op clarified that later. Do keep up or ask for help/

Mumpc12zxz · Yesterday 17:37

Well you told everyone that would have been the hardest thing ever. Well done! It’s your life do what you like 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 17:37

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:34

Yeah and you will go to your grave knowing he thought your sister was better.

What on earth makes you say that? You are so weird.

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 17:39

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:37

Are you quite ok, the op clarified that later. Do keep up or ask for help/

You kept on and on about how because he 'loved the sister enough to marry her' that meant that he couldn't possibly love the OP as much, and that the reason he was with the OP was to get back at the sister. Methinks you should back away from the vino!

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:40

Summervibes83 · Yesterday 17:35

So? I'm not suggesting it's a fairytale, I'm single in my 40s, I just know it's not easy to find someone who you can even imagine being happy with.

And whatever your thoughts on it, everyone actually in this particular situation is ok with it, so your judgement is pretty irrelevant.

As said, we all have different opinions, and we all get if your husband divorced you you’d be all good with your brother or sister shagging them immediatly. I’d not even shag my friends ex husbands never mind my siblings. You would. That’s ok.

im not ok with it and wont be, and you wont argue me into being, I think its utterly icky from both of them. And I suspect she competed with her sister, and he has been unable to find someone else, and they both have poor motivations;

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:41

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:32

Yes and so many are missing this point, she met this guy by chance and fucked him immediately, she wasn’t in love. She wanted to fuck her sisters ex husband, the man who ended his marriage to her. And she says she thought she’d probably not here from him again, maybe it was for the best, not she didn’t want to, she wanted to see him again.

so all the protestations of she is in love , she set out to get with this man as soon as she saw him, and was clearly delighted he wanted to see her again.

i doubt this will work out, because i doubt either has good motivations here.

Yeah that’s how one night stands work. I’ve had enough to know. I didn’t expect to hear from him we’d both been drinking I did regret it and felt terrible then he messaged and we met up no alcohol involved and it was just so natural. I probably should have stopped it there but I did not and here we are now. Not my best moment but it’s happened now. I’ve been engaged before because I thought I had to just say yes, I have turned down 2 other engagements.

I’ve never met someone that I was truly happy with till now. My relationship with my sister will survive she even joked it’ll be a family joke.

He’s a great guy and makes me happy so I’d rather give it a go and see where it goes. Circumstances are not great but all we can do is try I don’t know the future it might not work out or it might or I might never meet the ‘one’. I’ll just have to come to terms with that same way I’ve come to terms with the fact that I’ll never have any biological children as we most likely won’t have biological children I’ll be too old and not looking to try having children in my 40s.

OP posts:
Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:41

BettyJoanPerske · Yesterday 17:39

You kept on and on about how because he 'loved the sister enough to marry her' that meant that he couldn't possibly love the OP as much, and that the reason he was with the OP was to get back at the sister. Methinks you should back away from the vino!

What now.? You sound almost hysterical

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:43

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:40

As said, we all have different opinions, and we all get if your husband divorced you you’d be all good with your brother or sister shagging them immediatly. I’d not even shag my friends ex husbands never mind my siblings. You would. That’s ok.

im not ok with it and wont be, and you wont argue me into being, I think its utterly icky from both of them. And I suspect she competed with her sister, and he has been unable to find someone else, and they both have poor motivations;

One of my friends married one of my exes and I was very happy for them.They’re a very happy and cute couple and have children now. I personally don’t feel as though I own people they’re not mine to decide what their life trajectory should be.

We had our time and that was that now he gets to be with someone who he loves and my friends gets to be happy.

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BuckChuckets · Yesterday 17:45

I agree you should probably not have kids with him - imagine if it all goes tits up with your family at some point. Would you want your future kids to be ostracised and/or talked about and/or hear horrible things about you? You just never know.

Backawayfromthesausage · Yesterday 17:45

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 17:43

One of my friends married one of my exes and I was very happy for them.They’re a very happy and cute couple and have children now. I personally don’t feel as though I own people they’re not mine to decide what their life trajectory should be.

We had our time and that was that now he gets to be with someone who he loves and my friends gets to be happy.

How long were you with him, did you marry, live together etc, how close is your friend ?

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