Decoy Wedding?!

[McSteamyorMcdreamy]

Apologies I haven't gone through any individual topic to see if there are threads.

But with all the shit in the world going on, and true escapism is anyone else thoroughly excited about the "potential" TS/TK nuptials?

I find I'm far too invested! Pathetic to be so interested? Very possibly but I don't care!

Again apologies if there's already something going... If there is can someone share!

I’ll call out misogyny and attempts to belittle women when I see it.
Thats not browbeating anyone. You made a comment which was an attempt to belittle other women’s tastes. Maybe reflect on why you think that’s acceptable.

Maybe you are actually 12 😂

You really do come across as the head girl berating another pupil for views you don't agree with. Lol.

Let it go.

This is weird because you're coming across like the girl who crashes a lunch table, uninvited, and then complains about the conversation. You said in an earlier post that you weren't 12, but then you don't seem to have moved much beyond that in social awareness. Lol? Really?

And I'm no particular TS fan, although my kids certainly like her and I think she's as good a role model as any female star.

And there’s your internal misogyny again. Do you struggle with women having a different opinion to you?
I don’t have an issue with your taste in music the difference is I haven’t tried to belittle you or others that share your tastes. The world would be a boring place if we all liked the same things but your preferences aren’t better than anyone else’s.

There were a million different ways you could have chosen to say you’re not a fan. But you chose to belittle other women.

Who said these kids are ‘invested’ apart from you?

The entire country lost its shit when Charles and Diana got married, and neither of them had a skill between them.

These two people are at the absolute peak of their industries, after decades of hard work. Not bad role models at all.

Sneer away though 🤷‍♀️

I'm just looking forward to seeing the dress!

And the shoes! I loved that all her shoes on the Eras tour were louboutins!

I have zero interest in her music but I'm sort of old now

However...

I like the way she seems to have matched the cost of the wedding with charity donations. I like the way she seems to have no problem giving money away generally.

She's the Madonna of the modern age (the well known singer, not the Mother of God, of course) and while I vastly prefer eg Kate Bush, some of the vitriol levelled at a woman who seems to have done no wrong other than be spectacularly successful is mind blowing.

As for not being King Crimson @QuintadosMalvados , there are plenty who would think that a good thing.

After her tour she gave away almost $200 million in bonuses, including approx $750,000 to each of the dancers and $100K to the truck drivers, stage managers and practically everyone involved with the tour. That was in addition to their salaries.

No - men can equally be vacuous. Ant and Dec, most reality TV men and women, to name but a few.

Well the poster (and others) clearly thought they would be invested as she saw fit to announce it in class and then structure a lesson around it.

Well said. I can think of few artists I would rather listen to less than King Crimson and their tedious old man prog ilk. But that's just my personal taste!
I'm assuming all the people accusing TS of being a vacuous pop star who only writes bitter songs about her exes has never actually heard a TS album. I consider her to be the greatest lyricist in pop music history, a true lyrical poet. Her lyrics are rich and detailed and abound in intertextual references. She has also tackled a range of subjects in her lyrics. Her lyrics are often intensely, sometimes brutally, personal but she also writes story songs from a number of different points of view. I would advise sceptics to listen to folklore, evermore, Midnights and The Tortured Poets Department.
Also, so what if she writes songs about love affairs past and present. Are posters under the impression that only female pop stars do this?

Oh should we only be commenting if we agree with the OP? That’s not how the internet works, you know.

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No that’s not what I’m saying at all.
I have zero issue with people not liking TS or being bothered about her wedding. I quite like her and have a passing interest in her wedding but I’m by no means a super fan.

I only have issue with people who are going out of their way to belittle people who do like her and her music or people who are going out of their way to post misogynistic vitriol about a woman they don’t even know.

It is possible to either not engage with things that don’t interest you or engage in a way that’s respectful.

Exactly. I don't mind being accused of musical snobbery that's fair enough (though so what? It's just a difference of opinion) but if a man over a certain age started going on about how great Taylor Swift is I'd feel exactly the same about him. Like wtf, dude.

So no not misogyny. At all. People just toss the misogyny word about to shut others down - in my opinion of course.

Feminism is really odd these days.
Sure she is admirable for her business acumen. Who could deny it? I certainly won't.

But as far as I can see her songs are mostly about milking ex relationships while wearing very little for the male gaze.

That's not my version of feminism.

So yeah she's really, really good at making money but that's not why people view her as being so great so I'm just wondering what else there actually is to admire.

its not uncommon for a teacher to do this as many people have explained. I’ve known teachers use the World Cup as the starting point for a lesson on geography for example.

It might not appeal 100% to all students but so what? It’s impossible to do that anyway but it actually doesn’t matter. It’s the underpinning learning outcomes that are important. Those children need to learn those phonics sounds and a one off lesson which is hooked on a current event is not going to damage those kids or negatively impact their learning.

I Googled, and in Rhode Island you can request a Temporary Flight Restriction if you're a VIP. And you have a lot of control over drones - you can use signal-jamming equipment.

Nobody is asking you to admire her. That’s the point. You don’t have to.

But you seem unable to say that without making comments which are judgemental and, in my opinion, misogynistic. That’s what I have an issue with. Why can’t you just say ‘ she’s not to my taste’ and move on?

Why do you have use such negative and judgmental language to describe a woman who you know very little about.
Even this post is full of judgement and comments which are rarely (if ever) used to describe male artists.

She is more significant than other pop stars. She has changed the music biz, she's the wealthiest singer in history, and she's the best singer-songwriter of her generation. She writes most of her songs herself, which most other pop stars don't.

I just dont get it. I have tried to understand the hype.

I have 50+ female friends who went all lala on the last tour with kids plastic bracelets up their arms in sparkly outfits, bidding for tickets and spending fortunes to fly to cities hours away.

Her music is objectively ok (to me) and I understand that many adore it - usually for this genre of music, that's a specific demographic.

TS seems to transcend that demographic and I almost feel left out in the cold.

I suppose if you know, you know.

I have said that should any man over a certain age express the same level of idolation towards her I would feel exactly the same about him.

And I really, really would. So I strongly refute any accusations of misogyny.

And I can be equally scathing about Ed Sheeran, too. And Take That who now look ridiculous as a 'boy band' in middle age. And that boring George Ezra.

This is the Internet. Not everybody is going to agree.

As to not knowing anything about her, well unless you personally know her, you don't know her either, so I don't know what your point is.

So logically, assuming you don't know her either, our views have equal validity.

@Anarchy99
But she is though. Time person of the year. Ridiculous numbers of records broken
20 years and she is still such a massive part of the industry. Again you don't have to like it, but she is hugely significant.

It's objectively false that all or even most of her songs are about ex relationships. She has entire albums which don't feature any songs about ex relationships.