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AIBU I genuinely think I hate my 15 yr old son!! I blame myself and dh

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BrightPearlEagle · 02/07/2026 13:09

I honestly don’t know if I’m being unreasonable or if I’ve just reached the point where something has to give.

My husband (49M) and I (46F) have three sons. Our eldest is 15. He attends an independent boys’ school and is academically very able he has already sat some GCSEs early and is expected to continue doing well academically.
But at home, things feel like they’ve completely broken down.

He ignores rules, refuses boundaries, and any attempt to parent him leads to arguments, shutdowns, or him simply doing what he wants regardless. It feels like we are constantly in conflict and there is no cooperation at all anymore.
The stress in the house has become constant, and it’s affecting the whole family dynamic, not just him. We are trying to parent him consistently, but nothing seems to be getting through.

We’ve now also been called into school for a formal meeting regarding his behaviour, including concerns about him with girls and general conduct in school. Academically there are no concerns, but behaviourally they are clearly worried. from underage sex to drinking we are done we do not know what to do. He has had a different girl in the house pretty much everyday for the last 2 weeks. He is popular at school and I have just had enough with it all I feel like we are reaching breaking point as a household. I have been so overwhelmed by the situation that I’ve had to take time off work due to stress.

I’ve suggested that he might go and stay with my parents for a short period. Not as a punishment or to “send him away”, but because I genuinely feel like we all need space to reset and stop things escalating further at home. My parents are willing to have him.

My husband is unsure and thinks it could make things worse or feel like we are abandoning him at a difficult age.

I’m torn because part of me feels this is the only way to stop things spiralling, and part of me worries it’s a step too far and we should be holding firm at home instead.

So AIBU for thinking sending him to stay with his grandparents temporarily is the right move right now?

OP posts:
DRose3 · 03/07/2026 00:17

Other than the situation with the girls I am not understanding what is so terrible about him? Is there something else going on you’re unaware of? Is the pressure of excelling all too much for him? Is he perhaps scared of what’s next after school?

I think the assault accusation sounds awful for everyone. Is dad talking to him about relationships and sex, how to treat women? If he had one girl he liked he could have regular sex with her if she was consenting too, instead of multiple women. Alternatively, if he is going to have casual sex only he needs to be upfront with the girls to let them know the deal in advance. Surely it’s better to equip him well if the behaviour is just going to continue to keep everyone safe and happy.

Could you bargain with him, therapy and a part time job in exchange for the hockey trip? I don’t think pulling him from school or sports is a good idea.

He’s a part of your family, you love and support him but some of his behaviour is not acceptable. Sounds like he’s needs guidance and boundaries, which are part and parcel of getting older. You can have fun, but on the flip side you have to also be responsible.

Coolclouds · 03/07/2026 00:17

I don’t think sending him away is the answer. He is clearly behaving this way for a reason. It sounds like control, he has learnt he can control the situation with girls and is behaving in an arrogant way. I would think private school does not help with that due to some of the people he may be mixing with. I would try and spend more quality time with him if possible, but split it up. Sometimes you sometimes dh so you both get a break from the arguments. It could be something small heading out for food is often a win here or just a walk, to get them to talk. I have teens and I find picking my battles but having a consequence helps. Hockey would be the consequence. It may be the thing he is good at but for that reason it gets cancelled every time he brings a girl home for example. Good luck op but I would be aware he is behaving the way he is for a reason and maybe it’s about unpicking why that is over time.

ZedNotZee54321 · 03/07/2026 00:48

If he goes on this trip to America and thinks he's going to be able to behave like that over there, he's in for a big wake up call...

DimwittedSkater · 03/07/2026 01:02

Differentforgirls · 02/07/2026 22:47

I agree but I honestly don't think two 15 year olds having consensual sex should be punished. I know it's illegal but how do you punish them?

Very easily. Community service and a criminal record. And make it go on their university applications, for good measure. Without real consequences for underage sex, children under 16 will continue to come under peer pressure to have sex. There needs to be a real deterrent, otherwise kids will just have sex. Oh wait...that's what's been happening all over! It's not right, the girls suffer more emotional and physical consequences, and under-age sex should be stamped out by applying punishment.

DeeLasVegas · 03/07/2026 01:16

“Causing problems because all the girl fancy him”. Is he really ‘that’ good looking?

What is sending him to your parents going to do? How do you think this will change his behaviour?

Pileoftrash · 03/07/2026 01:51

It sounds like you have got stuck in a very negative cycle.

It’s not clear to me from your posts what he is actually doing wrong? Plenty of 15 year olds are out a lot, and chasing girls. It’s of course not iideal but I grew up with many people like this (& was drinking and sexually active myself at this age) and it honestly didn’t do me any harm at all.

You said school have called about his behaviour, what have they said?

if he is unkind and nasty to you and others then that is the real problem imo. I do think you need a reset of some kind where you all commit to forming a more positive relationship, and being loving and supportive of each other.

I personally don’t think punishments like taking phones and restricting travel will work, will just drive more of a wedge between you.

LilOleMe2 · 03/07/2026 01:58

Ive been on mn for long enough to know what horseshit smells like!!
You got a phonecall from the HT of the girls school because all the girls fancy your ds? 🤔🙄😂
As the Scots would say "did ye aye!"

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DeepRubySwan · 03/07/2026 03:34

He has a lot of testosterone by the sounds of it, 15 is a peak age for a massive surge. He probably doesn't quite know how to manage his desires, his need for control, to be dominant and his aggression. Has your husband spoken to him about his sex life? What about a few weekends away just the two of them camping, kayaking or being outdoors. It sounds like the connection between you both is quite disrupted and in my experience as an ex family social worker ( did it for 6 years) sometimes harsh consequences actually can make things worse. I would start by trying to deepen the connection specifically between your husband and him. He will not take advice from you. He needs a male leader. With boys like this, if they are not led, they will lead and that is what he is trying to do.

There is an excellent and very practical parenting program called Triple P Teen. In Australia it is free online, and you should be able to access it online or in person in Britain too. It's practical advice that really works.

In addition to that I would be looking at his sleep schedule, making sure he gets enough.

He needs to channel all that T into something constructive and if sports isn't doing it what about Army Cadets or the like?

GlobalTravellerbutespeciallyBognor · 03/07/2026 04:02

LilOleMe2 · 03/07/2026 01:58

Ive been on mn for long enough to know what horseshit smells like!!
You got a phonecall from the HT of the girls school because all the girls fancy your ds? 🤔🙄😂
As the Scots would say "did ye aye!"

I’m coming to this view too.

The OP has all the predictable triggers…

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 03/07/2026 04:52

Oh @BrightPearlEagle, you sound to me like a very loving mother who has indeed become overwhelmed by the delightful devils of our teenage children - mine are now in their 30s and 40s - so somehow or other I survived that time, and you will too, you really will!

Please remember that there are - quite obviously - many mothers on Mumsnet, and for some of them they seem to particularly like hanging around the AIBU section here, and give other mothers advice that they wouldn't follow with their own children however much they may f and c words swear that of course they would.

There are also - probably quite a few - posters who don't have any children themselves, so they can't possible know the excruciating pain any mother inevitably goes through, from the very early, very lonely, sleepless nights of new babyhood, to the really scary occassions when our children have a very high temperature and seem to be too listless, to the sometimes broken bones as they get too more adventurous, and the being bullied if they are one of the less confident children. I am now in my 60s OP, and have been through my own share of worries and hardships, but the most overwhelming, the most exhausting, the most traumatic of moments that I have been through, have always been when my dearest, darling, children have been suffering from either physical, or even worse imo, emotional pain.

I believe that you are completely worn out, and, therefore exhausted, and overwhelmed, by the last 15 years, and if you are in your 40's you may already be entering the early stages of the peri-menopause. You have obviously been a very loving and caring Mum, which is why this has hit you so hard. Please believe me when I tell you that you are a brilliant Mum, and you sound like a lovely and caring person in your own right, and that every single loving Mum has made mistakes that we mentally beat ourselves up over!

I have not read anything that you have said on this thread BrightPearl, that makes your son sound like anything other than a very intelligent teenager, who is going through the most significant hormonal changes that the males of our species are ever likely to go through. I have actually always felt quite sorry for men that they can't have a little human grow in their bellies, starting as a tiny fertilised egg, with only a few tiny cells, which multiply rapidly, and then turn into tiny, little, exquisite, human beings, and even though I wish that nature had managed to find an alternative, but equally successful way, for the lucky ones of us, to be fertile every single month, from puberty to the menopause, without us having to go through such messy and often painful things as our monthly periods, I am extremely grateful that I was born a female.

(I wonder if my last sentence could be entered into the longest sentence in the English language ever written?)

Sorry for going off piste a bit, above OP!

Now, back to your obviously very handsome and charming son - I mean that genuinely, but I know that in AIBU in particular, some people are very proud of their talents at being sarcastic, but I am not one of them. I must admit that when you said in your thread that he broke down at your parents home, and cried for ages, my heart really ached for him, as of course, did yours, I know. Since that 15 year old girl thankfully admitted that your DS hadn't abused her, have you apologised to him for thinking him guilty of such a thing?

I can understand why you were worried, and probably panicked a bit, when you heard her tale, especially after your son's more recent behaviour, but as I have had to do with my own children in the past - but thankfully not too often - I think it is important that you apologise to him. I do believe that we should give our children, even young children, an apology when needed. I think it is very important that we can give meaningful apologies to anyone who deserves them, but particularly to our own children. Of course, please only apologise if he knows that you didn't believe him at first, if he doesn't know about that particular thought, then please don't tell him now! However, I do think that you should consider whether you still owe him an apology for sending him to his grandparents at that time, but only you know in your heart if that honestly seemed to be the correct decision for him at that time. and If you still believe it was, and if he seems to disagree with you about that decision, are you able to explain to him in an obviously loving, but not patronising way (I never claimed that any of this is easy!), why you, and his Dad if relevant, believed that to be the case. The fact that he felt able to cry in front of them, and ask for a hug, suggests that it might have been a fortuitous or auspicious decision anyway!

But, again, please remember that you are an amazing, but exhausted, Mum, who like all of us Mums who can be honest with both ourselves and Mumsnet, have almost certainly made some mistakes in the past, and will, unfortunately, almost certainly make some more in the future. We are not perfect, I doubt that even Mother Teresa was perfect all of the time, and yet she was still given a Sainthood, after her death 🩷

I really believe that raising children with our hearts full of love for them, can not lead to them being 'spoiled', I am certain that the only way they can be spoiled is if they are raised with little more apparent than indifference, and/or neglect, and/,or over/heavy use of discipline, and the use of discipline that is far harsher than whatever offence they committed deserved. I personally believe that not letting your DSon go on his sporting trip to the US would be a terrible and over the top punishment - and for what exactly? He didn't abuse that girl, and the rest of his behaviour looks to me like the behaviour of a child with a raging hormone battle happening within his own body and mind, and the actual unfortunate stress that an overachieving teenager will undoubtedly experience, before they have had any chance to learn from such a difficult experience. This sporting trip appears from what you have told us, to be the most important thing to him at the moment, and I think he definitely deserves that experience after studying for some of his GCSEs early - even it was 'only (?)' one.

Although I was bullied as a child, and not the one that everyone liked, even by all the teachers, I don't think that being very popular - and very clever on top of that - means that that a child has had a wonderful time at school, and with no pressures. In fact, students like that probably have more pressure on them than I ever did when I had bullies making my life miserable. I didn't have anything I had to live up to, but children like your son have an awful lot to lose mentally if they don't keep on making the effort to be the "life and soul of the school ground", and the really clever one their teachers and parents have probably almost taken for granted... If the trip was taken away as a punishment, what more could you use after that as a punishment in the future, because I worry that his resentment at not being understood, or seemingly cared about, could very sadly lead to much worse behaviour in the future. That is not supposed to scare you, I could be very wrong, but I am very worried that that is a definite possibility. I do know that that isn't the case with you, I know that you couldn't love him any less than you do, that your love for your children is totally unconditional, but I still remember as a teenager that I could convince my self of the worse case scenario quite easily, but to be fair, I was nowhere near as bright as you DSon, and unfortunately that hasn't improved much as I got older!

Your son is lucky to have you as his Mum, but going by my own children, he might not realise quite how much until he has children of his own 🤭 As a village member, I thank you for being one of the great ones @BrightPearlEagle 💐🍫 xxx

Ps. If you have managed to read all of this, thank you, it was no mean feat!

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:40

BrightPearlEagle · 02/07/2026 15:08

The school did not care after the messages and phone calls and emails from the girl, in the messages she did threaten him and was harassing hi. All he did was say he was not interested in her and he wanted her to leave him a alone. I wanted to report it to the police and we told the girls family to go through the proper channel and then the parents said don't worry and she took it all back saying she was just upset he blocked her.

My parents think 'its just a phase' which doesn't help, they love him , his teachers like him despite his behaviour , academically he is doing well , sports wide he does well, its just his behaviour and lots of places are willing to overlook that.

Sorry but I think he needs a good talking to about the 'humping and dumping' he seems to be doing.

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:44

CuriousCatCat · 02/07/2026 15:18

If you reverse this, and he had called her 50+ times in a day, refused to take no for an answer , threaten to make false allegation about her and then make them he would rightly be considered a dangerous stalker. He is a 15 year child , and most worryingly you were immediately prepared to believe his stalker to the extent you couldn’t look at him and sent him to grandparents so he had ti navigate it alone.

the poster who suggested a trip away just you and him, to the Lake District or wales or somewhere remote from where you are made a good call. You need to repair your relationship.

His 'stalker' that it appears he first had sex with, and then told her he 'wasn't interested'.
A 15 year old girl. Come on, how would you expect her to feel/react?
OP did say 'they both wanted to'. They had sex. Remember being 15/16/17+?

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:49

BrightPearlEagle · 02/07/2026 15:32

I completely agree, but I didn't want to be one of those parents who immediately defends their child, only to later discover they actually did what they were accused of. At the time, I felt I had to take it seriously.

He now says I "tried to ruin his life" and that I'm evil. My DH and I went back and forth over whether sending him to his grandparents was the right thing to do. Looking back, I don't think it was my best decision, but I genuinely didn't know what else to do at the time. Hearing afterwards that he'd cried the whole time didn't make me feel any better about it.

The trip is a good idea I think it could help us, we were very close at one point and I miss that, his relationship with me is worse than with his father.

You agree that 15 year old girl that your son slept with then swiftly dumped is a 'dangerous stalker'?!

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:55

Bridesmaidorexfriend · 02/07/2026 15:51

Are you actually kidding? They are both 15 making stupid decisions. Yes he needs to understand how to treat other people with respect, but he’s 15, he’s the same age as her and just because he’s a boy doesn’t mean he needs to be held to a higher moral standard. They both had sex. She then made a false allegation against him, but he should write her an apology letter? Why are you villainising one teen over the other for something they both did? Why are we assuming he was in some way manipulating her? This thread is crazy.

I’m not one to be like ‘think about the poor boys, it’s not safe for them to smile at a girl anymore’ like no, violence against women is a real issue. But teenage girls are just as stupid and hormonal and responsible as teenage boys.

I think you're forgetting a big general difference between teenage boys and teenage girls. Teenage boys are spreading their wild oats - teenage girls are also hormonal, but they're more prone to getting attached and emotionally affected through having sex. I agree with the poster who emphasised that there's a serious problem here with OP's kid's behaviours and he needs very firm guidance or directing in this regard.

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:57

TheAmberKoala · 02/07/2026 15:51

OP I feel like you are glossing over his behavior towards girls here? You almost sound a bit proud. Sorry if thats harsh if you are stressed, but Ive seen this from the other angle where teen boys have been revolting towards girls.
The school isnt going to call you in because your son is 'popular' with the girls. I highly doubt they care whether girls fancy him. There must be more going on.

Im also curious how he manages to be doing school work from higher levels, playing elite sport, and have time to get drunk and have a different girl around every night.

Edited

I'm thinking rich 'high achieving' family here. Am I wrong, OP?

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 06:03

Bridesmaidorexfriend · 02/07/2026 16:06

Yes I have no issue with that, but two teenagers had sex, one said he’s not interested and then the other began sending multiple messages, made threats of a false allegation and then proceeded to make a false allegation.

I think it’s ridiculous to then centre that girl as the victim in this because he didn’t want a relationship with her. Ok, he’s an arrogant teen, yes he needs to have it drilled in to be treating people with respect. But he’s not assaulted her and has been the victim of a false allegation. His mum didn’t believe him until the evidence showed he didn’t do it. Yet someone is suggesting he write an apology letter?

The girl is also making stupid decisions and needs her parents guidance around how to handle herself and understanding consent. But two teens having casual sex doesn’t then become a sexual assault because the ‘girl wouldn’t have consented if she thought he didn’t want a relationship’

No it doesn't become a sexual assault, but clearly the feelings of 15 year olds girls are not to be trifled with! That's not a justification for a false accusation, but it's justification for giving this young shagger - OP's son, a bloody good talking to! He sounds like a horrible little shit.

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 06:07

ToffeeCrabApple · 02/07/2026 16:13

How will he contact all these girls with no phone?

Cut him off. Ground him, remove access to money, internet, tech.

Make earn time spent socialising with good behaviour.

His dad needs a serious talk to him about respecting women.

Actually it doesn't make sense. She says he's bringing a different girl to the house every day - but they're never let past the door? 🤔 Strange feeling about this one!

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 06:10

DimwittedSkater · 02/07/2026 16:17

OP is a wet noodle. For example, she says no way is her son ever going to state school no matter what crimes he commits. More fool her.

And she can't stop him going to America because he's a dual citizen (but 15!). 🤔 Somebody said don't be stupid he's not a psycho he's a teenager, but to be honest, I've been imagining him as a hulking psycho 😂

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 06:14

Dontlletmedownbruce · 02/07/2026 16:19

I agree with every word @thelongesday. I cant believe people are suggesting he apologises to a girl who lied that he assaulted her. Teaching teens its ok to lie and manipulate just because someone hurts your feelings! Next time someone in that circle claims they were SA they wont be believed because of her actions, shame on her. I agree he needs more responsibility and part of that is having responsibility towards his team mates, so the trip shouldn't be used as a punishment. He doesn't sound like he respects anyone but he doesnt respect his own body very much either. That's makes you wonder if there is more serious MH issues at play here.

I think a lot of people are forgetting here that this is a 15 year old girl. Who's just been 'humped and dumped'! Talk about playing with fire! A girl of that age, just slept with 'Mr Hunky Popular', who then immediately informs her he's 'not interested', is not going to be the most mentally or emotionally stable?

parachutegirl · 03/07/2026 06:49

howdoidoitalone · 02/07/2026 14:41

Your son has raped a girl and you’re letting him get away with it. Unbelievable

RTFT

JulietteHasAGun · 03/07/2026 06:50

I’d pack him off to an all boys boarding school in the middle of nowhere.

Sad thing is it’s probably too late and his personality has developed. This is probably who he is now. Maybe as he matures he will realise the error of his ways and become a nicer person who treats women (and his parents) with respect. But there’s an awful lot of grown men who act like this and it starts somewhere.

Corianda · 03/07/2026 07:00

He's only 15 - I wouldn't give up hope but visit some other schools with him , maybe the less desirable local comprehensive with a view to him changing schools. Changing schools is quite horrible, leaving friends etc. Also his reputation with girls will soon get round the school and as it will be mixed he won't be able to jump from girl to girl, or at least he can try but prob won't work so well. Also it will take time to make his place as top dog as there will already be someone. Hopefully you won't have to move him but this would be a great threat imv and might improve things. I would certainly resent paying for schooling which he has no appreciation for.
If he wasn't always like this is it fear of the future or something? Take him to a job advisor or visit unis, friends of yours in different jobs so he can see where he is aiming. Visiting unis with my DCs seemed to open their eyes, for one they have to look after themselves there. But it also looked exciting.

ruthieness · 03/07/2026 07:16

I don’t think serious punishment is warranted here at all - if you stop him from going on the hockey trip he will hate you for the rest of his life

i would say to try to appeal to his own self interest - so try to make him aware of the danger of putting himself in a position where he can be accused of assault (which has already happened) and of avoiding getting someone pregnant or catching a std

the other thing you could try to emphasise to him is that the internet no longer means that you can move on and start afresh - bad behaviour and reputation will follow you

I also think that there are much worse situations - drugs - violence- stealing - school refusal- gang behaviour

I would say Try not to become the enemy and to keep some positive connection with him

CuriousCatCat · 03/07/2026 07:16

AnnieGetYourBun · 03/07/2026 05:44

His 'stalker' that it appears he first had sex with, and then told her he 'wasn't interested'.
A 15 year old girl. Come on, how would you expect her to feel/react?
OP did say 'they both wanted to'. They had sex. Remember being 15/16/17+?

No. I said if the situation was reversed he would be considered a stalker. . If he had had a relationship with(slept with a girl) she had then decided it was a bit of a mistake and not wanted to carry on would you seriously have expected her to carry on in a relationship with him, soneone she didn’t want to be with? And if she stoid firm and said no she didn’t want to see him anymore more it would have been acceptable for him to harrrass and threaten her and eventually cause her harm by falsely accusing her of a serious crime. If it had been that way around I suspect you’d have wanted him arrested and rightly branded him a serious danger to all women.
They were both 15 and while her hormones/emotions and lack life experience make her actions less horrific than someone older, he is also 15 and subject to hormones and lack of experience, you can’t expect him to react and behave like a fully grown man while excusing her behaviour as teenage hormones.

I would be interested to know if his behaviour was as bad pre this accusation ? Or if it escalated afterwards.

Goosegoosegoose · 03/07/2026 07:28

I read your post last night and couldn’t sleep because I felt so sad for your son. If you put yourself in his shoes he was doing rebellious teen boy things and he was accused of something by a girl he hooked up with and didn’t like- and his mum sided with her. That must feel horrible, that his mum wasn’t on his side. I imagine he could be doing all the things he thinks you think of him because he’s hurting. It sounds like you’re all going through a tough time and everyone is fallible and learning! So be kind to yourself - but I think teens need extra love and demonstrations that they are loveable especially when they don’t feel they are. Being ostracised by parents can be really damaging, but I understand that you have been at your wits end- I hope you’re looking after yourself with some exercise and good friends?
Sorry if you’ve already said you’ve done this- but have you apologised to him? And said you’re sorry that you didn’t take his side immediately and that you made a mistake- and that you have been making mistakes because you don’t know what to do because you’ve been so worried. And that you love him unconditionally, and nothing he can do will make you stop loving him- and you will prove that to him and it might take a while. I suggest going on a drive- easier when you’re not looking at each other and trapped in a car.
and then you can offer him the chance to stay at his grandparents to take some space from you if that is what he needs. And you can say that he hasn’t been behaving well and you imagine he must be hurting a lot, and you’re there for him- but there have to be some consequences like loss of phone. But then you can you cook his favourite foods and show him over time that you love him with making his home a home again and his mum his mum again?