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DH stoping paying CMS

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donewiththistakemeaway · Today 10:25

My husband told his ex-partner — the mother of his two oldest children — a year ago that he planned to leave his job within the next 12 months. She has never worked, and for the last 9 years he has paid her £1,500 per month voluntarily, even though the Child Maintenance Service calculates the correct amount should only be around £300.

The kids stayed with us for 10 nights a month, matching my husband’s days off. Between us, we did all school runs, clubs, meals, and bedtime routines — returning them to their mother around 8pm each evening. They couldn’t stay more nights because my husband’s shift pattern meant leaving at 5pm, driving 2 hours, working until 7am, and getting home by 9am. This would have left me alone caring for all 5 children while also working, handling all household tasks, and managing their activities. Meanwhile, their mother only had to put them to bed around 9pm, yet received far more money than required. We also take all five children to their clubs and activities every weekend.

My husband has now left that job — he was exhausted, and after 12 years of hard work, my own business has become successful enough for me to be the main earner. He reminded his ex repeatedly over the year that this change was coming and that his income would no longer support those higher payments.

He explained that he is now available full-time: he can offer full custody, 50/50 shared care, or flexible arrangements — whatever works for the children. He will be there for school runs, sickness, doctors’ appointments, school events, and anything else they need. The only change is that he can no longer make those payments.

This has caused a huge reaction. She is angry, calling him names and saying she won’t be able to afford her home. He asked her to consider getting a job, or for her new partner to contribute financially ( he does not work either) but she has threatened to involve a solicitor — claiming that if my husband stops paying, I must cover the cost because I’m so flush.

I do not believe this is my responsibility. To keep things calm, I offered to pay the £500 per month which sis still more that what the CMS says is the correct amount, but this is still not enough for her. She won’t stop us seeing the children, as she only cares for them a few hours a day and enjoys having her evenings free with her partner.

My main worry is whether there is any legal loophole that would force my husband to keep paying that higher sum just to maintain her lifestyle?

OP posts:
SaskiaWatkins · Today 11:58

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Today 11:56

umm why not?

Seems like some people on here are desperate to attack the husband in any way they can, but really, both he and OP sound like decent people and good parents.

MrTiddlesTheCat · Today 11:59

YANBU for not paying yourself. YABU for enabling your DH in financially abandoning his children. No wonder she's angry.

MyMilchick · Today 12:00

IPM · Today 10:52

It all sounds a bit of a shit show really.

A mother of two who won't work and now a father of five who won't work.

Not a great example to the kids.

What do you mean a father who won't work? He's going to be a stay at home parent to 5 children and he has worked all through the years. No one would bat an eyelid if it was a woman deciding to be a stay at home parent to her 5 children.

OP, absolutely don't give her any money, you and your husband are more than pulling your weight in time and financially when they're in your care.

SweatySpider321 · Today 12:01

What is the point of her?! Doesn’t cook and barely looks after her own children? I wouldn’t be paying her anything no. She must know the money wouldnt keep rolling forever with children of that age. It was inevitable she would need to get a job at some point. That time is now! She has got a mortgage free home which lots of people would love to have. She’s very lazy and entitled

IPM · Today 12:01

I suppose on reflection, if you've managed to grow a successful business enough to be able to finance everyone whilst parenting his children and having a 4 year old and 2 year old twins yourself, it's up to you what you decide to accept now.

As long as he doesn't need to claim benefits when he jacks his job in, it's no-one else's business but yours and his.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · Today 12:02

Just pay the amount CMS say is due

PurpleThistle7 · Today 12:02

MajorProcrastination · Today 11:23

BLOOOODY HELLLS BELLS.

I have a 14 year old. You can defo work plenty with a 14 year old! She's not a SAHM at this point, she's just plain old unemployed. Jeeez.

Right? My kids are 13 and 10 - I've always worked full time, but now I have so, so much more freedom - can pop to the shops or go on a run or whatever. I could work several jobs if I needed to / wanted to. The kids in this situation are 14 and 16 so this must have been going on for a decade or more now.

user1471600850 · Today 12:02

Read the fXXXXing posts some of you! She's angry because he will no longer pay for her to do nothing - she doesn't look after them or cook for them or actually do anything for them - he has given her a house for free, she doesn.t need to support the 2 kids that are hers because the Op and her husband pretty much do all of it anyway - READ THE POSTS!!!

Teainapinkcup · Today 12:03

so.... the kids mum does not work... the mums man does not work... now just because you have a good income , the kids dad does not work... so you are the only one earning and want to pay her £500 a month? No! And why are you the only one earning money. Its not fair on you. Surely your dh could find another job closer to home! Do not let them take the piss....

SassyLemonFish · Today 12:04

Go for full time custody. Put the money you would have otherwise given the ex into a junior isa for the older two, so they have something to help them at uni or their first property purchase in a few years’ time.

I’m surprised an entire property was given away to the ex. When I got divorced, the family home had to be sold when my children started secondary school and the equity was split fairly. There was no such thing as spousal maintenance. The courts recognise that women can and should work full time to provide for themselves.

IPM · Today 12:05

user1471600850 · Today 12:02

Read the fXXXXing posts some of you! She's angry because he will no longer pay for her to do nothing - she doesn't look after them or cook for them or actually do anything for them - he has given her a house for free, she doesn.t need to support the 2 kids that are hers because the Op and her husband pretty much do all of it anyway - READ THE POSTS!!!

CALM THE FUCK DOWN!

It's just a chat forum 👀😁

fartotheleftside · Today 12:06

He's essentially been paying spousal maintenance rather than child support, really. Were they married?

IPM · Today 12:06

Teainapinkcup · Today 12:03

so.... the kids mum does not work... the mums man does not work... now just because you have a good income , the kids dad does not work... so you are the only one earning and want to pay her £500 a month? No! And why are you the only one earning money. Its not fair on you. Surely your dh could find another job closer to home! Do not let them take the piss....

Yes and with a 4year old 2 year old twins as well.

shrunkenhead · Today 12:06

Shouldn't she be paying you money?! They're at yours pretty much full time!

gotmyselfintoapickle · Today 12:07

IPM · Today 11:37

But he's fathered 5 kids and decided to put his feet up early.

Regardless of what his lazy ex is like, his 5 kids now don't have a working parent.

Is that the example he wants to set?

How old are the kids and what's wrong with working part-time in a non physical job?

ETA: 2 of his 5 kids don't have a working parent.

Edited

But he's fathered 5 kids and decided to put his feet up early.

The OP is working and supporting the household, just like he has done in the past. How they decide to split their childcare and financial responsibilities is their business.

BridgetJonesV2 · Today 12:07

Let her take him to court.

She's just pissed off that her gravy train has come to the end of the line and terminated.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · Today 12:08

Don’t pay her a penny. She needs to get a job.

user1471600850 · Today 12:08

IPM · Today 12:05

CALM THE FUCK DOWN!

It's just a chat forum 👀😁

I know but it is so frustrating😅😂

aWeeCornishPastie · Today 12:09

fuck her don’t pay a penny you and husband are doing a great job with the kids. She’s just a money grabbing bleep

PrettyPickle · Today 12:09

MrTiddlesTheCat · Today 11:59

YANBU for not paying yourself. YABU for enabling your DH in financially abandoning his children. No wonder she's angry.

Bang out of order, this guy paid off the mortgage before he left so she has no mortgage to pay, he has been paying her £1500 a month but all the kids do is sleep there, don't eat, shower, wash or socialise there. Why can't he do what she has been doing, at least he has contributed financially and why can't she or her partner get a job?

She is angry the gravy train is ending and she has to face reality.

stargirl27 · Today 12:10

donewiththistakemeaway · Today 11:51

They were together and had children and he paid it off with inheritance. 2 years later they broke up and he let her keep the house. There’s no thing for her to leave when the kids grow up.

This is unbelievable unless he is EXTREMELY wealthy... is it still legally in his name or did he transfer it to her?

IPM · Today 12:10

gotmyselfintoapickle · Today 12:07

But he's fathered 5 kids and decided to put his feet up early.

The OP is working and supporting the household, just like he has done in the past. How they decide to split their childcare and financial responsibilities is their business.

The OP has started a thread about her business 🤷‍♂️

whatonearthishappenin · Today 12:11

donewiththistakemeaway · Today 10:49

He’s quit work so he can be there for all 5 children. Bit of a double standard going on if it’s fine for mothers or step mothers not to work but dads are expected to work. He wants to spend more time with his children, I don’t think that’s wrong

But we all want to spend more time with our children... it is usually the financial responsibilities we have that stops us. Your DH appears to have forgotten that he has financial responsibilities towards his children.

(As does their mother - but that does not mean your husband's just fall away).

IPM · Today 12:11

stargirl27 · Today 12:10

This is unbelievable unless he is EXTREMELY wealthy... is it still legally in his name or did he transfer it to her?

Yes, it's making me wonder why she doesn't just sell it tbh.

Unless it's not actually been put in her name.

Glowingup · Today 12:12

donewiththistakemeaway · Today 10:50

Thank you for settling my mind. She said something about being eligible for legal aid for a solicitor so naturally I’ve started spiralling

She won’t be eligible for a legal aid solicitor. Legal aid doesn’t cover this sort of thing.

Don’t pay her anything beyond strict CMS liability, he’s been overpaying for years. She needs to get off her arse and get a job and support her kids like any normal adult needs to.