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AIBU to think my parents are ignorant & somewhat racist ???

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ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:02

DH and I are both mid 40s. We moved to Dubai nearly 18 years ago for jobs, what was meant to be temporary became permanent, and we’ve built our lives here. We are still British, still expats, but very settled.

Our children were both born in Singapore as we were there for work for a while too. They’re British citizens but have never lived in the UK. We visit 6 or so times a fear. Frequent enough for them to somewhat know England or at least know where DH and I are from/grew up. They’ve done all the sightseeing, London eye, Scotland, Wales, Cotswolds, Cornwall etc they’ve been UK

They attend an international school here which is academically strong and well regarded. It’s also affiliated in various ways with UK private schools and a lot of the teaching staff are British. It follows a fairly rigorous curriculum, and many students go on to UK universities.

But the reality of the school is that it’s very international, as you’d expect. Their friendship group includes children from England, Scotland, America, Barbados, Bermuda, South Africa, Australia, India and many other countries. That’s just their normal.

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

We’ve also had similar reactions to other things. We sent a photo from my eldest son’s birthday recently around 20 children at a party here. Again, instead of being happy, the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

The same narrative keeps coming up: that the children are “barely English anymore”, don’t sound English, don’t understand England properly, and that we’re somehow denying them a “proper British childhood”.
Even the accents get mentioned, they don’t have traditional English accents, more of an ‘international school’ accent despite DH and I having very southern England accents , which apparently is another concern.

What I struggle with is that from our perspective, none of this is negative.
My children are happy, confident, well educated, and very comfortable around people from all backgrounds. They don’t really think in terms of nationality in the way I grew up doing. They just see friends.

They are very well travelled, have lived this international lifestyle all their lives, and are completely at ease in multicultural environments. I actually see that as a strength rather than something missing.

But my parents seem to view it as a loss, like they’ve ended up with grandchildren who are somehow less “British” than they expected, and that this needs correcting by moving back.

They’re also very keen for us to return to the UK permanently, offering to buy us a house in cobham, but we simply don’t want to. I grew up in cobham, I don’t want to live there now. We have a good life here, we feel safe, the children are thriving, and we’re not ready to leave.

I grew up in Surrey and part of me does remember how small and insular things could feel, and I don’t think I want to go back to that for my children.

I feel guilty because I understand they miss us and want us closer, especially as they get older. But I also feel frustrated that everything about our children’s lives here is being framed as “wrong” or “less British”.

First it was ‘when are you two going to have children’ now I don’t think they love our children. They’re not willing to accept them. They’re still young, we can move back to the England and they’ll get an English accent but we don’t want to and also why does it matter. There’s more things my parents have said. Another example that really pissed me off was along the lives of what if one of the boys bring home a girl that isn’t English. Why does it matter??? It’s a disgusting way to view the world.

OP posts:
Asiana · 27/06/2026 20:55

I don't think your parents are disgusting racists or whatever they've been called here. Maybe old fashioned. Certainly they miss you a lot...the complaints about the children's accents etc, that is them trying to convince you to come back. They're even prepared to buy you a house! It's very hard and sad to leave parents. I know cos I've done it too. At first you think it's for a couple of years, before you know it decades have passed. I wouldn't judge your parents too harshly. Probably lots of your children's friends' parents get the same comments from their parents.

ExitPursuedByABare · 27/06/2026 20:56

I’m sure your children are having a fabulous life and education. I’m interested though in what nationality they feel? Or do they feel ‘global’. Lots of folk cling to their national identity (see Pakistanis driving around the streets of Rusholme waving huge Pakistan flags on some celebration.). Rusholme is a suburb of Manchester by the way. I see your children haven’t visited the north of England on their infrequent trips to the uk, but then why would they 🤷‍♀️.

Hopefully your children will go on to a career in global finance or some such and roots won’t matter to them.

Roots. That was a great watch back in the day.

godmum56 · 27/06/2026 20:57

AgentPidge · 27/06/2026 20:52

Two points: I don't think you need to justify the way you want to bring up your children or where you want to live.

Second: your parents obviously have a bit of a small-town view. Also, they feel a bit disconnected from their dgch because they live so far away and aren't like the kids who grow up in Cobham.

It's a shame they're so small-minded. Lots of small-minded people are a bit racist. You could try to change their views, but ultimately I think you'd be banging your head against a brick wall. They are of course entitled to their views, however ignorant.

Your best bet is to try to ignore the racism and to foster a better relationship between your parents and their dgch. As your DC grow, in years and in confidence, they'll hopefully show your parents what lovely, open and well-rounded people they are.

umm I don't think that is the best bet. I am not sure how old the children are but I'd be very concerned about what hurtful things the grandparents might say in front of them/to them. perhaps if they are older teens and can handle it then maybe......

AsiaFlyer · 27/06/2026 20:59

Asiana · 27/06/2026 20:55

I don't think your parents are disgusting racists or whatever they've been called here. Maybe old fashioned. Certainly they miss you a lot...the complaints about the children's accents etc, that is them trying to convince you to come back. They're even prepared to buy you a house! It's very hard and sad to leave parents. I know cos I've done it too. At first you think it's for a couple of years, before you know it decades have passed. I wouldn't judge your parents too harshly. Probably lots of your children's friends' parents get the same comments from their parents.

I agree. Maybe not a coincidence that we both have ‘Asia’ in our usernames.

Eelge · 27/06/2026 20:59

Hopefully your children will go on to a career in global finance or some such and roots won’t matter to them

It might if they can't pass on their British Citizenship as they were born in Singapore

saveforthat · 27/06/2026 21:00

I'm surprised by most of the comments on here. Usually if someone makes a post about moving to Dubai it's met with pp saying oh no don't go there, it's awful. I suspect the grandparents just miss the grandchildren.

DreamTheMoors · 27/06/2026 21:01

I totally get this, but on a much smaller level.

I never heard any of the “big people” say a racist word while I was growing up in California.
Both my grandparents were raised by people who lived in the Deep South just after the Civil War - and while I’m confident they were against slavery, they were racist. And they passed that on to both my grandparents - who then passed it on to my mother.
But growing up I never heard a single solitary racial word from anybody.
Once I hit adulthood, though, LOOK OUT!!
And my image of my “decent elders” collapsed.”
That’s how racism works:
They learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from their parents, who learned it from… ad nauseam.
You can stop that ugly chain. You can choose your common decency. You can choose kindness and respect and compassion.
Or you can be like my my mum and her family.
I choose love. ❤️

pinkpanther84 · 27/06/2026 21:02

Yadnbu- sorry accidentally voted yabu by mistake. They must be stuck in their insular ways. Your kids upbringing sounds great

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 21:03

Asiana · 27/06/2026 20:55

I don't think your parents are disgusting racists or whatever they've been called here. Maybe old fashioned. Certainly they miss you a lot...the complaints about the children's accents etc, that is them trying to convince you to come back. They're even prepared to buy you a house! It's very hard and sad to leave parents. I know cos I've done it too. At first you think it's for a couple of years, before you know it decades have passed. I wouldn't judge your parents too harshly. Probably lots of your children's friends' parents get the same comments from their parents.

Is it not racist to ask me what if one of my children brings home a girl that isn’t English? Our children are under 10 years old so that is also an odd thought to have already. I think it’s racist and to top it off she asked what I would do. To me that’s weird.

I know they miss us but being racist and ignorant isn’t the way to go. DH’s parents are a couple years older than mine and they love how cultures our children are they think it’s amazing. They’d love to have us back in England too but their reaction to the birthday photos complete opposite to my parents. They were so happy for our son for his 10th birthday, they said it’s great he has lots of friends and we’re happy he was enjoying himself. They even FaceTimed us and said hi to some of his friends and are enamoured by the international school accent and just fine it funny and cute. Everywhere the boys go no one will be able to tell where ‘they’re from and they think that’s cool. They truly love our boys and want what’s best for them and accept them for who they are. Kids don’t see nationalities the way we do they just see these other kids from Australia, Barbados, America, South Africa, New Zealand, Egypt, Spain etc as their friends.

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JazzyAmbs · 27/06/2026 21:03

They just don’t understand your life, it confuses them and makes them think there’s something wrong with their lives. Honestly I live a mile down the road from my parents and sent my kids to a different school to the one I went to - even that couldn’t be understood!

Mitzuko · 27/06/2026 21:05

If you're happy and your children are happy, who cares what other people think? By the way I think you lead an amazing life that many would dream of. So why let your parents destroy that happiness just to go back to what you left for a much better alternative?

Don't allow anyone's envy destroy your happiness.

Parents can often disappoint us, but that doesn't mean there is something wrong here. They are free to pursue the imaginary idea of a world populated mainly by pure British citizens, and be happy with that idea.

Just respect the difference, accept they'll never be you and you'll never be them, they'll never convince you they're in the right and vice versa.

Help your kids understand that there are so many different people and respect them, but don't let them influence you more than necessary.

I wish you the best in accord with your life choices.

Shoopshawady · 27/06/2026 21:06

Your kids sound like they’ve had a very fortunate lovely upbringing and will grow to be well rounded individuals. Your parents sound set in their ways and selfish. Ignore them and continue to do as you see fit for your kids as sounds like they’re thriving!

MummyWillow1 · 27/06/2026 21:06

Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:19

You are bringing up expat kids in an expat environment.

your kids have British citizenship but they are probably not British culturally. There’s a big, big difference between growing up somewhere and going there for a couple of weeks each year.

your parents may well be racist, but the multicultural international expat life you describe has disadvantages as well.

Why does that matter? Why is ‘Britishness’ something to aspire to? Most of the time my fellow brits make me despair.

C152 · 27/06/2026 21:07

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I read it as being relevant because the OP's parents are suggesting the OP's kids are somehow less than because they're not growing up in an insular English village. The OP is explaining that living overseas hasn't made her kids miss out - they go to a good school (ie. education isn't shit just because it's not at school in England) and they're not completely ignorant of their British heritage, as they've visited where both parents were born and have a broad awareness of the UK.

OP, as someone else said, it can be disappointing to realise that your parents hold views you don't and find offensive. I wouldn't give their opinions on these topics any weight. It sounds like your kids are thriving. That's all you need to say anytime your parents bring something like this up.

hairbearbunches · 27/06/2026 21:07

the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

They’re not being constructive about you coming back to England, that is your decision to make, but they are right about the first bit. Your kids aren’t living a normal life and are mixing with rich, international kids. To argue otherwise is ridiculous.

Isn’t this all just a massive humble brag, using ‘my parents are racist’ as a cover?

DeedlessIndeed · 27/06/2026 21:09

@ForCyanShaker
Sorry but you mention a doctor dropping dead in the NHS - didn't he take fentanyl and accidentally overdosed?

Not the point of the thread but you use the annecdote to paint a picture of grim reality in the UK. And whilst I don't disagree entirely, I don't think there is a need to spread misinformation.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 27/06/2026 21:09

I don’t really see it quite the same way as you.

Their GC are having a totally different childhood from yours and from theirs. It’s like a massive gulf between the generations’ experiences. All generations have gaps, where children can’t grasp the world of their grandparents and imagine they grew up with a horse and carriage, or alternatively can’t imagine a world without the internet.
Add into that the geographic chasm, and the completely different culture they are growing up in, and your parents can’t see anything in common with your DC.

And bringing home a girl who isn’t English, well they’ve not realised that’s no longer the issue. The children won’t live abroad because of a partner, but because England isn’t home.
I’m really aware if my son and his partner have dc, they may move nearer to her family on the other side of the world. And yes, I’d be sad.

So it isn’t exactly racism, more a sadness that they don’t share a culture with their grandchildren. Effectively, their GC are ‘foreign’.

VinnieBeige · 27/06/2026 21:10

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:14

Can I not put what I want in my own post ? I’m confused

No, you can’t, because you will be objected to by someone, as morally incorrect.

just as you are objecting to your parents as morally incorrect for wanting grandchildren that share and express and will preserve their culture.

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 21:10

ExitPursuedByABare · 27/06/2026 20:56

I’m sure your children are having a fabulous life and education. I’m interested though in what nationality they feel? Or do they feel ‘global’. Lots of folk cling to their national identity (see Pakistanis driving around the streets of Rusholme waving huge Pakistan flags on some celebration.). Rusholme is a suburb of Manchester by the way. I see your children haven’t visited the north of England on their infrequent trips to the uk, but then why would they 🤷‍♀️.

Hopefully your children will go on to a career in global finance or some such and roots won’t matter to them.

Roots. That was a great watch back in the day.

Edited

They have visited the north ? I didn’t list every single place that they’ve visited but they love Liverpool as DH has got them into the Beatles, they’ve been to Manchester, they liked the tram. We took them to Manchester Christmas market last December actually and Leeds. They have been around England not just the south but DH and I are from different parts of the south so it’s normal for them to have toured the south slightly more.

They do see themselves as British, English. DH is into football and so are they. They’ve been to football matches, they support DHs local football club that he grew up supporting, we took the oldest to Qatar to watch one of the England games during the last World Cup. He was young and maybe didn’t appreciate it that much but he was very proud to be from England based on his reactions. I think they’re just international kids. They’re always going to be British that’s the only citizenship they have.

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BadBadCat · 27/06/2026 21:10

Your parents don't sound racist to me, they sound like they want their grandchildren to grow up in England because that is their cultural heritage. There's nothing wrong with having a strong sense of belonging and being proud of their own culture and nationality. That's not necessarily racism.

VinnieBeige · 27/06/2026 21:11

MummyWillow1 · 27/06/2026 21:06

Why does that matter? Why is ‘Britishness’ something to aspire to? Most of the time my fellow brits make me despair.

imagine you are Palestinian or Israeli and then see how deep your despair is.

Ifyounevergiveup · 27/06/2026 21:13

Yes, they’re racist. My parents are in their 80s, lived abroad for many years, and yet still have vile views on anyone who’s not Anglo Saxon and dares live in “their country”. They, of course, were immigrants themselves for the 30 or so years they lived abroad. Ugh.

May I take a bit of a different tack on the remainder of your post? These people are also deeply controlling. They wanted to dictate when you had kids. They want to dictate how you live. They want to dictate how you bring up your children. And I’m assuming they’re nowhere near my parents’ age yet. If you come back they will exhaust you with their attempts at manipulation, which will only get worse as they get older. My advice (heartfelt from bitter experience) would be to stay on a different continent from them as long as you can. Don’t give them room in your head. They have told you who they are and believe me, it only gets worse. Stay away. Don’t even consider coming back. Nothing to do with the state of the country. Everything to do with avoiding exposing your happy family to these awful people.

BadBadCat · 27/06/2026 21:13

If a British Chinese person said they were going to China to raise their family because they wanted them to grow up in an environment where they could be surrounded by their own culture and experience growing up in the country of their ancestors, I doubt we would call them racist.

VinnieBeige · 27/06/2026 21:14

Shoopshawady · 27/06/2026 21:06

Your kids sound like they’ve had a very fortunate lovely upbringing and will grow to be well rounded individuals. Your parents sound set in their ways and selfish. Ignore them and continue to do as you see fit for your kids as sounds like they’re thriving!

Op sounds thoughtful and reluctant to condemn her parents who have never seemed racist, her whole life. She has currently drunk the koolaid and thinks pride in Britishness is ‘ racist’ and she’s here puzzled by how judgy she is being toward her own family.
You are telling her to ignore her family in favour of kool aid rhetoric.

that’s message boards for you.

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