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AIBU to think my parents are ignorant & somewhat racist ???

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ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:02

DH and I are both mid 40s. We moved to Dubai nearly 18 years ago for jobs, what was meant to be temporary became permanent, and we’ve built our lives here. We are still British, still expats, but very settled.

Our children were both born in Singapore as we were there for work for a while too. They’re British citizens but have never lived in the UK. We visit 6 or so times a fear. Frequent enough for them to somewhat know England or at least know where DH and I are from/grew up. They’ve done all the sightseeing, London eye, Scotland, Wales, Cotswolds, Cornwall etc they’ve been UK

They attend an international school here which is academically strong and well regarded. It’s also affiliated in various ways with UK private schools and a lot of the teaching staff are British. It follows a fairly rigorous curriculum, and many students go on to UK universities.

But the reality of the school is that it’s very international, as you’d expect. Their friendship group includes children from England, Scotland, America, Barbados, Bermuda, South Africa, Australia, India and many other countries. That’s just their normal.

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

We’ve also had similar reactions to other things. We sent a photo from my eldest son’s birthday recently around 20 children at a party here. Again, instead of being happy, the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

The same narrative keeps coming up: that the children are “barely English anymore”, don’t sound English, don’t understand England properly, and that we’re somehow denying them a “proper British childhood”.
Even the accents get mentioned, they don’t have traditional English accents, more of an ‘international school’ accent despite DH and I having very southern England accents , which apparently is another concern.

What I struggle with is that from our perspective, none of this is negative.
My children are happy, confident, well educated, and very comfortable around people from all backgrounds. They don’t really think in terms of nationality in the way I grew up doing. They just see friends.

They are very well travelled, have lived this international lifestyle all their lives, and are completely at ease in multicultural environments. I actually see that as a strength rather than something missing.

But my parents seem to view it as a loss, like they’ve ended up with grandchildren who are somehow less “British” than they expected, and that this needs correcting by moving back.

They’re also very keen for us to return to the UK permanently, offering to buy us a house in cobham, but we simply don’t want to. I grew up in cobham, I don’t want to live there now. We have a good life here, we feel safe, the children are thriving, and we’re not ready to leave.

I grew up in Surrey and part of me does remember how small and insular things could feel, and I don’t think I want to go back to that for my children.

I feel guilty because I understand they miss us and want us closer, especially as they get older. But I also feel frustrated that everything about our children’s lives here is being framed as “wrong” or “less British”.

First it was ‘when are you two going to have children’ now I don’t think they love our children. They’re not willing to accept them. They’re still young, we can move back to the England and they’ll get an English accent but we don’t want to and also why does it matter. There’s more things my parents have said. Another example that really pissed me off was along the lives of what if one of the boys bring home a girl that isn’t English. Why does it matter??? It’s a disgusting way to view the world.

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slughater · 27/06/2026 20:23

people like this often back down when you ask them to explain what they mean
eg, re the photos

'what do you mean the other children don't look english?'

'well, um, er, they just ..um er...'

alternatively,

'no, there are lots of different nationalities, it's an international school!...but I suppose we could send them to a local school, although they might have to go in a special class then, for children who don't speak the language'

scoobysnaxx · 27/06/2026 20:24

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Because she doesn’t understand why her parents think her and her husband are doing their children a disservice?

she is clearly explaining what a good well rounded life her children have to emphasise how odd her parents comments are.

oh all the people that gloat on here I don’t think she is doing that for the sake of it.

AppropriateAdult · 27/06/2026 20:25

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It’s called context, and gives a fuller picture of the totality of their lives. It demonstrates that they do visit the UK often, are exposed to that side of their heritage, have opportunities to see their British family, and that they’re demonstrably not losing out on a quality education by living abroad. If they didn’t do any of that stuff, the grandparents feeling a little sad about this might be more understandable, although their expression of that would still be xenophobic. As it is, there’s no excuse for it at all.

But you knew all that. You’re just being a prat.

scoobysnaxx · 27/06/2026 20:26

Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:19

You are bringing up expat kids in an expat environment.

your kids have British citizenship but they are probably not British culturally. There’s a big, big difference between growing up somewhere and going there for a couple of weeks each year.

your parents may well be racist, but the multicultural international expat life you describe has disadvantages as well.

Such as?

ScotiaLass · 27/06/2026 20:26

I can sympathise to an extent because when I realised that my best friend who had settled in Australia's child was going to have an Australian accent I did get a bit upset because it was a marker that she was there permanently and was never coming 'home' - could something like that be going on here? Their upset about friends and future partners not being English is more problematic. You maybe didn't notice this side of them growing up because you didn't live in a particularly diverse community? Or they be becoming more racist as they get older? It can happen, and especially in a country like the UK that is generally becoming more racist at the moment.

scoobysnaxx · 27/06/2026 20:27

AppropriateAdult · 27/06/2026 20:25

It’s called context, and gives a fuller picture of the totality of their lives. It demonstrates that they do visit the UK often, are exposed to that side of their heritage, have opportunities to see their British family, and that they’re demonstrably not losing out on a quality education by living abroad. If they didn’t do any of that stuff, the grandparents feeling a little sad about this might be more understandable, although their expression of that would still be xenophobic. As it is, there’s no excuse for it at all.

But you knew all that. You’re just being a prat.

Agreed 🙄

KnewYearKnewMe · 27/06/2026 20:27

I think people are being deliberately disingenuous, OP.

Clearly your post about where they have visited is to demonstrate that you’ve introduced them to their roots, they do know they’re British, etc.

which is very relevant as a counter to your parents argument.

JoyousOpalLemur · 27/06/2026 20:28

They're not a different race so it's not racism and it is a weird upbringing they're having.

Bristolandlazy · 27/06/2026 20:28

Is Cobham not at all multicultural, and if it's not surely they've been to other places. I find it hard to believe this is news to you, that your parents have changed their views so much since you've moved.

Hilarious given that Dubai has a massive expat community and people from all over the world.

TinyTempest · 27/06/2026 20:29

Really quite worrying that you need to ask if you’re being unreasonable to think your parents are ignorant and racist.

Very worrying indeed.

Magnificentkitteh · 27/06/2026 20:31

scoobysnaxx · 27/06/2026 20:26

Such as?

Well, quite a limited frame of reference in terms of class diversity etc. Not feeling especially rooted, potentially being afraid of stepping out of the ex pat bubble, which is kind of a weird space between living abroad and actually living abroad. To the DC speak the local language, for example?

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:32

Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:19

You are bringing up expat kids in an expat environment.

your kids have British citizenship but they are probably not British culturally. There’s a big, big difference between growing up somewhere and going there for a couple of weeks each year.

your parents may well be racist, but the multicultural international expat life you describe has disadvantages as well.

What are the disadvantages? I’m fairly open minded. I don’t necessarily want my children in England right now but still curious of the disadvantages. They’re still quite young so maybe if things got better.

As we do want the best for our children, I don’t believe England is the perfect place. Nowhere is perfect, but certainly not England right now. Seven PMs in 10 years, to me, there seems to be a lot of instability.

I don’t live in England, but I’m from England and I try to keep up politically. I may have the wrong view, but many of my friends have left. A lot of my medic friends have certainly left, as medicine in England is unstable right now. No one seems to appreciate doctors; they’re so overworked. Didn’t one pass away recently in hospital whilst working? I could be wrong but it fairly recent.

I’m also certainly not going to sit here and say Dubai is perfect at all, but I think my children are going to benefit from being expat children. They have lived in Dubai, Singapore, and Hong Kong for a bit, and they are British citizens. They can work around these countries a little bit more easily than someone who has just grown up and lived in the UK.

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CrikeyMajikey · 27/06/2026 20:33

You sound like you’re giving your kids a great start to life. A life that your parents just don’t understand and don’t want to get to know. They won’t see themselves as racist, of course. Be thankful your kids won’t have the same outlook. We live in the South of England, highly sought after grammar school area, one of which my DS attend. A lot of the teachers aren’t ‘British’ and the kids are from all around the world, it’s like the UN. Life has moved on and your parents are living in the past.

helpfulperson · 27/06/2026 20:33

Do you and your children consider themselves to be British? I do find this 'we are expats' view strange. You are immigrants to Dubai.

thepariscrimefiles · 27/06/2026 20:34

JoyousOpalLemur · 27/06/2026 20:28

They're not a different race so it's not racism and it is a weird upbringing they're having.

I'm pretty sure that when her parents say “so many non-English children”, they are referring to the children who aren't white.

SMDX3 · 27/06/2026 20:34

Seem to be that of the thoughts of many of the older generation. They see decide and difference which scares them where as you’re able to see the positives of diversity and don’t fear multicultural worlds

Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:37

scoobysnaxx · 27/06/2026 20:26

Such as?

I used to teach at an international school in the U.K.

students were often quite transitory as parents would be on 1,3 or 5 year postings. It meant that children would make friends in the first few years and it was almost guaranteed that their friends would have moved away a few years later.

it did cause quite a lot of upset for some students.

one mum who was a friend of mine, her nine year old was devastated when her best friend moved away and it took her quite a long time to recover her social confidence.

the use of the IB and other curricula meant that students who were moving internationally multiple times during their schooling didn’t have completely horrendous experiences trying to learn Arabic then Swedish then German etc but there’s still a dislocation in terms of curriculum even if you move between IB schools.

LadyUrsula · 27/06/2026 20:39

It sounds like your children are having a wonderfully rich childhood, far more than they'd have stuck in Cobham! Your parents are narrow minded racists so it's even better that your children don't see them all the time.

Hatty65 · 27/06/2026 20:39

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

30 years of teaching in the UK and I can tell you that every British school I've worked in looks like this - and I'm very happy about it. Britain is multi cultural. Have your parents somehow missed this?

HoppityBun · 27/06/2026 20:40

TinyTempest · 27/06/2026 20:29

Really quite worrying that you need to ask if you’re being unreasonable to think your parents are ignorant and racist.

Very worrying indeed.

Not really. It’s a way of framing OP’s dilemma and to an extent it’s a result of the thread options on here. AIBU seems to get more traction than Chats.

I think that @ForCyanShaker is having to,come to terms with and face realities about her parents that become clearer because of distance and a particular issue. Like Covid and Brexit revealed fissures and uncomfortable truths about relationships that just hadn’t occurred before.

mynameiscalypso · 27/06/2026 20:40

I do find it such a bizarre view not least as my DS goes to a state school in London and I’m not sure that there is another white-British child in his year.

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:42

I am not gloating.

I was adding context. My children have had very privilege and enriching lives. It’s a way to point out that I do not understand why parents view since they think we are letting our children down by raising them in an ‘unbritish way’ legally my children are British they’ll never not be British. Culturally maybe they’re not, they’re intertwined by so many cultures. It’s not as though we are the only British people here, THERE IS LOTS.

We have lived here for quite sometime. We can’t just apply for citizenship. Essentially we are migrants most here like to call themselves expats but we are immigrants. My children will always be British, they don’t have any other citizenship.

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suburberphobe · 27/06/2026 20:43

Ignore the people who are still stuck in the past OP. The world has changed and we have to go with the flow so to speak.

Sounds like your kids have a great life. I have a friend who brought up her son in Dubai, went to uni in UK and now lives there. I'm sure he's enriched by having lived in other countries.

I grew up in 3 countries. I love it that I have that experience. And love chatting to people from all 3 as well as those from the rest of the world.

Your kids live in the future world, your parents live in the past one. No-one's going back there.

godmum56 · 27/06/2026 20:44

but they have been (trying to) control your life since "when are you going to have children" The emotional blackmail is no new thing. You have three choices really.

  1. Do the electronic equivalent of nod and smile and secretly vow to never go back to them again.
  2. Have a serious conversation with them about how you do not agree with their views, won't be acceding to their wishes and that they need to think seriously about whether they want to remain a part of your family
  3. Tell them to fuck the fuck off.
your choice.
AsiaFlyer · 27/06/2026 20:44

They want their grandchildren to have strong roots in their own culture and people.

Maybe that is racist and vile, but it’s also pretty common in lots of cultures.

By this standard, I’d say at least half the Chinese parents I know (in China) are racist and vile too. I know India a bit less well but my impression living there was that it’s higher still there.