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AIBU to think my parents are ignorant & somewhat racist ???

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ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:02

DH and I are both mid 40s. We moved to Dubai nearly 18 years ago for jobs, what was meant to be temporary became permanent, and we’ve built our lives here. We are still British, still expats, but very settled.

Our children were both born in Singapore as we were there for work for a while too. They’re British citizens but have never lived in the UK. We visit 6 or so times a fear. Frequent enough for them to somewhat know England or at least know where DH and I are from/grew up. They’ve done all the sightseeing, London eye, Scotland, Wales, Cotswolds, Cornwall etc they’ve been UK

They attend an international school here which is academically strong and well regarded. It’s also affiliated in various ways with UK private schools and a lot of the teaching staff are British. It follows a fairly rigorous curriculum, and many students go on to UK universities.

But the reality of the school is that it’s very international, as you’d expect. Their friendship group includes children from England, Scotland, America, Barbados, Bermuda, South Africa, Australia, India and many other countries. That’s just their normal.

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

We’ve also had similar reactions to other things. We sent a photo from my eldest son’s birthday recently around 20 children at a party here. Again, instead of being happy, the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

The same narrative keeps coming up: that the children are “barely English anymore”, don’t sound English, don’t understand England properly, and that we’re somehow denying them a “proper British childhood”.
Even the accents get mentioned, they don’t have traditional English accents, more of an ‘international school’ accent despite DH and I having very southern England accents , which apparently is another concern.

What I struggle with is that from our perspective, none of this is negative.
My children are happy, confident, well educated, and very comfortable around people from all backgrounds. They don’t really think in terms of nationality in the way I grew up doing. They just see friends.

They are very well travelled, have lived this international lifestyle all their lives, and are completely at ease in multicultural environments. I actually see that as a strength rather than something missing.

But my parents seem to view it as a loss, like they’ve ended up with grandchildren who are somehow less “British” than they expected, and that this needs correcting by moving back.

They’re also very keen for us to return to the UK permanently, offering to buy us a house in cobham, but we simply don’t want to. I grew up in cobham, I don’t want to live there now. We have a good life here, we feel safe, the children are thriving, and we’re not ready to leave.

I grew up in Surrey and part of me does remember how small and insular things could feel, and I don’t think I want to go back to that for my children.

I feel guilty because I understand they miss us and want us closer, especially as they get older. But I also feel frustrated that everything about our children’s lives here is being framed as “wrong” or “less British”.

First it was ‘when are you two going to have children’ now I don’t think they love our children. They’re not willing to accept them. They’re still young, we can move back to the England and they’ll get an English accent but we don’t want to and also why does it matter. There’s more things my parents have said. Another example that really pissed me off was along the lives of what if one of the boys bring home a girl that isn’t English. Why does it matter??? It’s a disgusting way to view the world.

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Gloriia · 29/06/2026 14:08

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 12:18

I think there are quite a few assumptions being made about my family and why we're here.

I'm not arguing that living in Dubai is morally uncomplicated. It isn't and I've never suggested otherwise.

My husband works for the FCDO, and I also worked for the FCDO for a time. The reality is that our careers have often required us to live and work where we were needed not necessarily where we would have chosen ourselves.

Over the years that has included postings in places such as the US, Lebanon and even Yemen before the British Embassy Sana’- suspended its operation in around 2015. There isn't really a choice of destinations you go where the work requires you.

We're not in the Middle East because we were chasing a lavish lifestyle or because we wanted to "exploit" anyone. We're here because our work brought us here. Yes I wholeheartedly admit we are benefitting from the system. That doesn't mean we ignore or excuse the human rights issues that exist. If anything working in different parts of the world has made us more aware of how complicated these issues are.

When we first left the UK we were young and an opportunity came our way. Looking back could we have chosen different careers? Perhaps. But we both enjoy the work we do because it has real-world purpose, even if it sometimes means living in places that are politically complex or uncomfortable.

People are absolutely entitled to disagree with our choices, but I don't think it's fair to reduce our lives to "you moved to Dubai for luxury." That simply isn't us. I am not going to sit and say we aren’t privileged or that our children are not living in a privileged bubble. That can be true and I can also call out and limit contact with my parents for ignorant views and I see their views as racist. It doesn’t mean I am saying I am absolved of all the countries I have lived that certainly have issues but also my work in a way counteracts that. Some have said or maybe your parents are sad that your children don’t have British values …. First of all the work my husband does directly benefits the uk. People arguing that I am against the UK just because I don’t mind my children having friends from different countries or I wouldn’t care if my son brought home a partner from a different race/ethnicity/nationality. Or people excusing my parents behaviour for being elderly. DHs parents are older than my parents and are different. It’s not an age thing to me.

It just all sounds like you protest too much tbh. Are you really happy that your dc's view of life is being developed in the God awful Dubai? If yes then that's fine.

You've lived there <and other places >18yrs, probably see your parents fleetingly so what does it matter if they are disappointed in your life choices?

You seem to want to paint them as racists to enable these choices. Yes they've made weird comments but are they generally nice loving parents? If yes focus on that not their opinions on your kids multi national schooling.

Octavia64 · 29/06/2026 14:13

Op, you are objecting to your mum assuming that white children are English and non white children are not.

your children are very young now and they are probably only exposed to you and your friends and their children.

but if they grow up in a situation where they go round to George’s house and George’s family have a live in South Asian maid and almost every family has a South Asian maid who are there under the kafala system and cannot leave.

there is a class of servants in the UAE who are mostly of one particular race.

you don’t have any servants. Great. But their friends will and it’s likely that some of those servants will be being physically or sexually assaulted.

even the UAE government is saying it’s not ok to sexually assault modern slaves which in the circumstances is amazing (they aren’t actually doing anything about it though)

and that’s not even getting on to the views that Arabs have on Jews or Pakistanis.

your parents views are extremely mild compared to what they are likely to be exposed to.

JHound · 29/06/2026 14:34

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 13:05

Essentially, yes.

There are other white children in my children's friendship group some are British and some aren't but my parents especially my mother never seem to question their race them in the same way.

In fact my mum simply assumes they're English or British without even asking. For example, my son's best friend is French. I once sent my mum a photo of the two of them together, and her response was, "Oh, he looks like a nice English boy." In reality, he's French born in France, with French parents.
That's why I don't see these as innocent or harmless mistakes. There seems to be an underlying assumption that if a child is white, they must be British, whereas children who aren't white are questioned or viewed differently.

I've tried explaining this to my mum, but she refuses to see the distinction

What did she say when you corrected her as to the French kid’s identity?

JHound · 29/06/2026 14:39

Octavia64 · 29/06/2026 14:13

Op, you are objecting to your mum assuming that white children are English and non white children are not.

your children are very young now and they are probably only exposed to you and your friends and their children.

but if they grow up in a situation where they go round to George’s house and George’s family have a live in South Asian maid and almost every family has a South Asian maid who are there under the kafala system and cannot leave.

there is a class of servants in the UAE who are mostly of one particular race.

you don’t have any servants. Great. But their friends will and it’s likely that some of those servants will be being physically or sexually assaulted.

even the UAE government is saying it’s not ok to sexually assault modern slaves which in the circumstances is amazing (they aren’t actually doing anything about it though)

and that’s not even getting on to the views that Arabs have on Jews or Pakistanis.

your parents views are extremely mild compared to what they are likely to be exposed to.

You’re making massive (and fairly racially prejudiced) assumptions as to people’s beliefs based on their ethnicity.

While it is true the lower paid class in the UAE will be heavily dominated by people of certain backgrounds that’s true of almost every country with diverse populations (including here in the UK if you look at business cleaning crews, food delivery, taxi drovers etc.) I remember living in France where almost all the “femme de menages” and childminders are black or Arab.

But to assume that OP’s children will be exposed to racism just because of the ethnicity of people they are around is bonkers. OP cannot do anything about hypotheticals and assumptions

JHound · 29/06/2026 14:45

I've tried explaining this to my mum, but she refuses to see the distinction.

Also maybe it’s time to stop trying to explain and shutting down your mother each and every time. Just accept you are fundamentally different and say “mom I am not interested in your racism, the, kids, Hubby and I are fine” and change the subject each and everytime. If she asks how you would feel if your kids had non-white partners say “I really would not care, stop asking”.

Just shut it down. I think it should be easy to navigate unless they want to indoctrinate your children and it sounds like they are not around them enough to do that.

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 15:00

Gloriia · 29/06/2026 14:08

It just all sounds like you protest too much tbh. Are you really happy that your dc's view of life is being developed in the God awful Dubai? If yes then that's fine.

You've lived there <and other places >18yrs, probably see your parents fleetingly so what does it matter if they are disappointed in your life choices?

You seem to want to paint them as racists to enable these choices. Yes they've made weird comments but are they generally nice loving parents? If yes focus on that not their opinions on your kids multi national schooling.

I can understand why you might not think living abroad is an ideal situation, and I don’t disagree that it comes with challenges.

Our current posting is part of our careers that we’ve had since we first moved abroad and over the years we’ve had to make a number of relocations sometimes with limited choice in location. We see my parents a lot considering we don’t live in England last year we visited them 6 times, they visited us twice. Out of all of my siblings, I am the one sibling that sees them the most. I care about them and love them and it’s not an easy choice to limit contact for a while.

We did think carefully about having children in the context of our work, as it does involve a degree of uncertainty and sacrifice. We left it too late with age I guess, I have had 5 miscarriages (not looking for sympathy with before anyone starts I am ) before having my boys, trust I love them so much. We do our best to make considered decisions for them while balancing our professional responsibilities.

Parenting isn’t always straightforward, I have certainly struggled with it but we’re doing what we believe is right for our family as a whole. Maybe we are awful parents I’m willing to accept that criticism I am not going to disagree with that especially based on where we live with our children.

Let’s agree I am not trying to argue I think your arguments are right. This is just what I’ve chosen to do. I wanted to see other perspectives and maybe other people are better children than I am or better parents than I am.

I did not come here to say I am a better parents than anyone else, or that I have made the best decisions in life for my children, or that I am better morally than my parents.

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aliceyyyy2654 · 29/06/2026 15:14

Octavia64 · 29/06/2026 07:22

Dubai as a country/culture is a lot, lot more racist than Britain.

they absolutely are going to be exposed to racism if they live in Dubai, and in the lived experience type of racism not the making a few comments type of racism.

obviously you can cut your parents off if you like but they’ll see much worse in Dubai

Dubai isn’t a country.

Gleba · 29/06/2026 17:12

Out of curiosity, have you chosen schools for your children in the UK yet? What do you have in mind? Would you move close to Cobham? Or London?

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 17:49

Gleba · 29/06/2026 17:12

Out of curiosity, have you chosen schools for your children in the UK yet? What do you have in mind? Would you move close to Cobham? Or London?

Yes, we've started looking at a few schools that we're interested in. Realistically, we'd need to be based in Surrey so we can both commute into London for work. We will not be moving to Cobham, we want to be in a town most likely Guildford and close to schools.

We actually own a house in London, which we bought years ago before we had children. It's a two-bedroom property so it's no longer practical for a family of four, especially as the children get older and need their own space. We've since rented it out.

At the moment, we're tied into a contract overseas, so we can't simply relocate immediately. However, our employers are aware that we'd like to return to England in the near future largely because of our children's education. Our eldest is 10, so we're starting to plan now to make sure everything is in place by the time he's around
13.

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Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 18:58

I’m a bit confused as you started off by saying that they have never given any hint to these vile views but then you say that you have challenged them on it multiple times? So they have demonstrated they are racists many times before?

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:03

we do plan to come back to England, mainly for our children

why? Given how happy and settled and brilliantly educated your children are?

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:28

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:03

we do plan to come back to England, mainly for our children

why? Given how happy and settled and brilliantly educated your children are?

We are hoping to head back to the UK so the kids can do their IB there. Our plan has been to always retire in England. Our jobs aren’t permanent, there could be changes to plans and we’d have to come to England anyway despite us being settled.

My husband’s contract is technically fixed term but we are eligible to extend or relocate through the usual channels. He’s been with the department for 20 years (joined back when it was the fco before Boris Johnson did his merger!). He started out in London but the role was different and then we moved overseas.

Before kids we sometimes worked in different countries at the same time, but we are completely done with that setup now. About a year before his current posting ends he’ll enter the recruitment board to bid on open roles in London and at embassies/high commissions etc.

We would our children to try education in England especially now while they’re still malleable, it would be tougher in their late teens as well they might not like it so it’s trial and error but if a perfect overseas role popped up that worked for both of us we’d keep an open mind.

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ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:29

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 18:58

I’m a bit confused as you started off by saying that they have never given any hint to these vile views but then you say that you have challenged them on it multiple times? So they have demonstrated they are racists many times before?

Not whilst I was growing up this has been a recent thing within the last year. I mean she’s asked me the same question in different variations for about a year.

They have demonstrated their views within the last year maybe they always had those views and just didn’t share I do not know.

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Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:36

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:28

We are hoping to head back to the UK so the kids can do their IB there. Our plan has been to always retire in England. Our jobs aren’t permanent, there could be changes to plans and we’d have to come to England anyway despite us being settled.

My husband’s contract is technically fixed term but we are eligible to extend or relocate through the usual channels. He’s been with the department for 20 years (joined back when it was the fco before Boris Johnson did his merger!). He started out in London but the role was different and then we moved overseas.

Before kids we sometimes worked in different countries at the same time, but we are completely done with that setup now. About a year before his current posting ends he’ll enter the recruitment board to bid on open roles in London and at embassies/high commissions etc.

We would our children to try education in England especially now while they’re still malleable, it would be tougher in their late teens as well they might not like it so it’s trial and error but if a perfect overseas role popped up that worked for both of us we’d keep an open mind.

Your kids can do the IB in Dubai

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:37

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:29

Not whilst I was growing up this has been a recent thing within the last year. I mean she’s asked me the same question in different variations for about a year.

They have demonstrated their views within the last year maybe they always had those views and just didn’t share I do not know.

I wonder what happened in last year for this sudden outpouring of racism

Either way… they wouldn’t be near my children.

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:40

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 21:59

It’s racism. Please don’t come on here saying that it’s not. This is honestly quite shocking.

I believe it’s racism to ask your daughter what she will do if her son brings home someone who isn’t English. That’s not even ignorant that’s just racism and bigoted and quite disgusting. I don’t want my children thinking that way is that so bad that I don’t really care who my child brings home so long as they’re not a criminal and treat each other well why does their race, nationality or ethnicity even matter.

So given this, what’s your plan going forward? Because quite clearly you think your mother is bloody awful (she is) and an out and out racist (she is) and you don’t want her indoctrinating your children (no doubt would try to given half the chance)

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:51

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:36

Your kids can do the IB in Dubai

Yes, they can sit their IB exams here but the overseas roles we have aren’t permanent. You get posted somewhere, and sometimes the stay gets extended, but sometimes it doesn’t.

The permanent role for DH is essentially based in England. We’ve just been lucky to spend a lot of time abroad.

That’s also why we’ve been able to come back to England quite often to see my parents and other family. When we’re back for work we usually make the most of our time and visit family as well.

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Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:58

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 19:51

Yes, they can sit their IB exams here but the overseas roles we have aren’t permanent. You get posted somewhere, and sometimes the stay gets extended, but sometimes it doesn’t.

The permanent role for DH is essentially based in England. We’ve just been lucky to spend a lot of time abroad.

That’s also why we’ve been able to come back to England quite often to see my parents and other family. When we’re back for work we usually make the most of our time and visit family as well.

You moved to Dubai 18 years? So it’s been extended multiple times if you’ve not been posted anywhere else for almost 2 decades?

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:59

Yes but you’re not going to carry on exposing your kids to outright racists are you?

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:17

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:58

You moved to Dubai 18 years? So it’s been extended multiple times if you’ve not been posted anywhere else for almost 2 decades?

Yes, but we have also been posted to other roles overseas the last one was America, when the children were toddlers other posts haven’t been as consistent, UAE has been the most consistent base for both of us.

Dhs roles have never been a permanent overseas even though he has been based abroad for most of this time. It’s always been fixed contracts but he came go from country a to country b one after the other whilst still in a fixed contract.

His actual contract is with the UK. I’ve changed jobs since but DHs contract is firmly with the UK therefore at some point we will need to return anyway so we’d like for the children to try school in England regardless of whether we are settled here, I think we’d like for my husband to still be employed. It’s not as though we can get ‘permanent residency’ wherever we go it’s a little complicated.

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ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:18

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 19:59

Yes but you’re not going to carry on exposing your kids to outright racists are you?

I haven’t said that ? I think maybe you’ve misunderstood

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Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 20:21

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:17

Yes, but we have also been posted to other roles overseas the last one was America, when the children were toddlers other posts haven’t been as consistent, UAE has been the most consistent base for both of us.

Dhs roles have never been a permanent overseas even though he has been based abroad for most of this time. It’s always been fixed contracts but he came go from country a to country b one after the other whilst still in a fixed contract.

His actual contract is with the UK. I’ve changed jobs since but DHs contract is firmly with the UK therefore at some point we will need to return anyway so we’d like for the children to try school in England regardless of whether we are settled here, I think we’d like for my husband to still be employed. It’s not as though we can get ‘permanent residency’ wherever we go it’s a little complicated.

Oh so you moved there 18 years ago but you have been posted in other countries and moved to them? So how long have you been in Dubai since the last posting? Is it normal to return multiple times to the same country?

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 20:21

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:18

I haven’t said that ? I think maybe you’ve misunderstood

I quote you

my parents are ignorant and racist

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 20:23

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:18

I haven’t said that ? I think maybe you’ve misunderstood

I don’t think I have misunderstood anything

It’s racism. Please don’t come on here saying that it’s not. This is honestly quite shocking.

I believe it’s racism to ask your daughter what she will do if her son brings home someone who isn’t English. That’s not even ignorant that’s just racism and bigoted and quite disgusting.

* I don’t want my children thinking that way is that so bad that I don’t really care who my child brings home so long as they’re not a criminal and treat each other well why does their race, nationality or ethnicity even matter.*

ForCyanShaker · 29/06/2026 20:25

Enidrocks · 29/06/2026 20:21

I quote you

my parents are ignorant and racist

Exactly ? I didn’t say I was going to carry on letting my children interact with racists ? I’m confused I think we have both misunderstood eachother.

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