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AIBU to think my parents are ignorant & somewhat racist ???

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ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:02

DH and I are both mid 40s. We moved to Dubai nearly 18 years ago for jobs, what was meant to be temporary became permanent, and we’ve built our lives here. We are still British, still expats, but very settled.

Our children were both born in Singapore as we were there for work for a while too. They’re British citizens but have never lived in the UK. We visit 6 or so times a fear. Frequent enough for them to somewhat know England or at least know where DH and I are from/grew up. They’ve done all the sightseeing, London eye, Scotland, Wales, Cotswolds, Cornwall etc they’ve been UK

They attend an international school here which is academically strong and well regarded. It’s also affiliated in various ways with UK private schools and a lot of the teaching staff are British. It follows a fairly rigorous curriculum, and many students go on to UK universities.

But the reality of the school is that it’s very international, as you’d expect. Their friendship group includes children from England, Scotland, America, Barbados, Bermuda, South Africa, Australia, India and many other countries. That’s just their normal.

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

We’ve also had similar reactions to other things. We sent a photo from my eldest son’s birthday recently around 20 children at a party here. Again, instead of being happy, the comments were about how it must be “just rich international kids” and that this isn’t a normal upbringing, and that we should be coming back to England.

The same narrative keeps coming up: that the children are “barely English anymore”, don’t sound English, don’t understand England properly, and that we’re somehow denying them a “proper British childhood”.
Even the accents get mentioned, they don’t have traditional English accents, more of an ‘international school’ accent despite DH and I having very southern England accents , which apparently is another concern.

What I struggle with is that from our perspective, none of this is negative.
My children are happy, confident, well educated, and very comfortable around people from all backgrounds. They don’t really think in terms of nationality in the way I grew up doing. They just see friends.

They are very well travelled, have lived this international lifestyle all their lives, and are completely at ease in multicultural environments. I actually see that as a strength rather than something missing.

But my parents seem to view it as a loss, like they’ve ended up with grandchildren who are somehow less “British” than they expected, and that this needs correcting by moving back.

They’re also very keen for us to return to the UK permanently, offering to buy us a house in cobham, but we simply don’t want to. I grew up in cobham, I don’t want to live there now. We have a good life here, we feel safe, the children are thriving, and we’re not ready to leave.

I grew up in Surrey and part of me does remember how small and insular things could feel, and I don’t think I want to go back to that for my children.

I feel guilty because I understand they miss us and want us closer, especially as they get older. But I also feel frustrated that everything about our children’s lives here is being framed as “wrong” or “less British”.

First it was ‘when are you two going to have children’ now I don’t think they love our children. They’re not willing to accept them. They’re still young, we can move back to the England and they’ll get an English accent but we don’t want to and also why does it matter. There’s more things my parents have said. Another example that really pissed me off was along the lives of what if one of the boys bring home a girl that isn’t English. Why does it matter??? It’s a disgusting way to view the world.

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ChocoChocoLatte · 27/06/2026 20:44

And I bet they voted for Brexit too…. What a great opportunity you’ve had and a wonderful experience for your kids……

Newyearawaits · 27/06/2026 20:45

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:15

That’s what I mean. They’re making assumptions based on their ignorant and racist views

Indeed OP and that's something you can't change.
Take care and I suggest you don't use up too much of your emotional resources challenging your parent's views and prejudices, it will likely make you feel more upset.

Becuriousnotjudgemental1980 · 27/06/2026 20:46

I’d have to say something. My grandma was really racist and I remember a period where we didn’t see her because my dad told her we weren’t going back to her house unless she stopped talking about immigrants and how much she hates pretty much everyone of colour. I wouldn’t mind but her dad was part Romany gypsy! I digress… please call them out. Also you should be brutally honest and tell them
you have no intention of moving back to England.

IDrinkTeaAllTheTime · 27/06/2026 20:46

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:11

What’s wrong with that ?
I just wanted to is it not allowed on here

Yes, you’re allowed. But, any whiff of a British person bettering themselves and creating a great life for their children, especially one that breaks the traditional small-town British one is usually viewed with jealousy and contempt. It’s the old crab bucket mentality at play.

Ignore them, OP. You have nothing to feel guilty or bad about. You’re giving your kids an amazing life, and the exposure to different cultures and ways of life from such a young age can only be a positive thing.

Trust me, you don’t want to come back to the UK. I did after 20 years abroad and I massively regret it.

LadyUrsula · 27/06/2026 20:46

Hatty65 · 27/06/2026 20:39

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

30 years of teaching in the UK and I can tell you that every British school I've worked in looks like this - and I'm very happy about it. Britain is multi cultural. Have your parents somehow missed this?

The part of rural England that I live in has a predominantly white population. School photos look similar to 50 years ago. The latest census figures show that 81% of us in England are white. Multicultural communities are concentrated in particular parts of the country and scarce in others.

lightseeker · 27/06/2026 20:46

Of course you can't pander to this nonsense OP. I'm amazed you even have to ask!

Tell your parents that if you move back it would be to London anyway and the independent schools here are just as international as in Dubai!

Or tell them that if you move to Cobham you will put them in ACS Cobham - an international school with exactly the same demographic.

Actually, don't get into any of this with them - just ignore.

As my son says, if you play stupid games with stupid people you get stupid prizes.

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:47

Hatty65 · 27/06/2026 20:39

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

30 years of teaching in the UK and I can tell you that every British school I've worked in looks like this - and I'm very happy about it. Britain is multi cultural. Have your parents somehow missed this?

Not sure what areas you’ve worked at. I think it does differ area to area.

I am not denying that Britain isn’t multicultural but the area they live in isn’t. My school photos were not multicultural at all in Surrey. I don’t think cobham is as multicultural as other parts of England. If my children went to school in cobham (where I grew up and where my parents have lived for a very long time) most of the children in the school photos would be white English.

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Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:47

Ah ok, just read your update.

i’ll be honest if I lived abroad I wouldn’t be moving back to England right now.

but the disadvantages of this kind of expat bubble are fairly well documented - children who grow up in this sort of situation often feel slightly rootless as adults - they are not UAE citizens legally or culturally but neither are they British culturally.

they’re growing up in what is almost certainly a privileged lifestyle in essentially an expat bubble where there’s no sense of rights or common ground with a lot of the people around them.

dubai is probably less transitory than it was, so there’s probably less of the “my best friend is moving home” but there certainly will be a sense that this isn’t their country even if they live there and they have neither the right to vote/get involved politically nor any responsibility towards the other people around them.

it can be quite interesting to ask students in international schools where home is. Some do link it with their nationality but lots have only been to their “home” country on visits and don’t feel like they belong there.

JLou08 · 27/06/2026 20:48

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:13

Maybe I was ignorant but I never got the ‘whiff’. They always had their own thoughts such as ‘never have children till you’re married’ etc those sorts of views but not racism. At least not racism in front of me till now essentially.

I think there are a few 'new' older racists. I'm pretty sure my parents weren't racists when I was younger, I had a mixed race relationship, they had black friends and an Asian work friend, they chatted to neighbours of different ethnicities. Now my dad is very open in his belief that immigrants have ruined our country, my mum recently came out with a comment that made her sound racist too. I think the older people are more susceptible to being influenced by the hate they see online than young people are.

Persephonia1966 · 27/06/2026 20:48

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It can happen that people become a lot more "firm" in their beliefs as time passes (I was going to say as they get older but I don't think it's necessarily always related to age). This is particularly the case if they have been spending less time in the "real world" and more time on Facebook, reading the papers, watching GBNews. It means that there is more negativity and less real.world positive experiences to counter it and that affects people's reactions. There has been quite a push on the whole "X percentage of schools in UK where white British children are a minority**" doomtrolling and the idea that this is a BAD THING can seep in and colour their emotional reactions (especially ironic that the OP isn't in the UK anyway).

So, while I can't speak for OPs parents that is totally a thing that can happen. And it is surprising. I think especially if you move away you expect you might change but the people left behind will stay the same and that's not always the case.

**Usually with some generous use of statistics and definitions

Gwenhwyfar · 27/06/2026 20:48

Magnificentkitteh · 27/06/2026 20:31

Well, quite a limited frame of reference in terms of class diversity etc. Not feeling especially rooted, potentially being afraid of stepping out of the ex pat bubble, which is kind of a weird space between living abroad and actually living abroad. To the DC speak the local language, for example?

Yes, I'm a migrant and I've seen this too. Not the case for this family, but some of the families move a lot and that causes problems with putting down roots as an adult. Identity issues also come up with people who've lived in different places or whose parents are from elsewhere. They are sometimes not integrated into their home country, but also not fully understanding their parents' country.

ilbehonest · 27/06/2026 20:48

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she's proud of her kids. get over it.

Octavia64 · 27/06/2026 20:49

Hatty65 · 27/06/2026 20:39

We recently sent my parents a school class photos because they asked for it. My parents’ reaction really shocked us. They focused entirely on the fact it “doesn’t look English” and that there are “so many non-English children” in the class. My mum said she found it upsetting and that it made her feel sad for my sons.

30 years of teaching in the UK and I can tell you that every British school I've worked in looks like this - and I'm very happy about it. Britain is multi cultural. Have your parents somehow missed this?

Nah

big cities, maybe. London, yes.

try rural Norfolk and it’s 99.9% white.
lots of parts of the uk have very very few non white people

SavBlancinRecovery · 27/06/2026 20:50

Your kids are international expats & that will never leave them. Good on you & they sound like they have a great life.

raising a kid in England (especially a Surrey version of England) is very much different to an expat existence.

only you will know which one is best. Not for your racist parents to decide either thank goodness

we have done both. Childhood in England trumps it for us but for my adult life I’d return to the expat bubble in a heartbeat! 🤣

good book to read on the subject is Third Culture kids by David Pollock

Hadit16 · 27/06/2026 20:50

I imagine they are just upset that they don’t really know/see your children or yourselves and are expressing it badly.

AuntAgatha1 · 27/06/2026 20:50

I'm sorry OP they sounds unpleasant and bigoted, it must be really hard to deal with. It's not their place to try and tell you where to live. Ironically if they got their way and you moved back to the UK they'd probably have the same racist complaints as most British schools are ethnically diverse now.

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:50

ChocoChocoLatte · 27/06/2026 20:44

And I bet they voted for Brexit too…. What a great opportunity you’ve had and a wonderful experience for your kids……

I can agree my parents are ignorant and racist but they did not vote Brexit. They do not live an area that would vote Brexit the area was voted remain.

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HewasH2O · 27/06/2026 20:50

I wonder if they are just struggling to understand your lifestyle and choices. Perhaps they are concerned that there is an implied criticism of how they brought you up and they feel as though you have rejected the choices you have made. If they are in their 60s or 70s, that's a long time since they were picking schools etc for you and it might all feel a bit alien to them.

FunnyOrca · 27/06/2026 20:51

That’s a shame that they can’t be happy for you. I guess it just seems to them their grandchildren are living a life they don’t understand.

The stuff about the peers is just pure racism/xenophobia. Dubai would not be my first choice to raise a child, but neither would England. They aren’t missing out, just having a different experience.

I agree with them on the “international school accent”, it’s awful! Can you find them a British singing teacher? That often helps with levelling out accents.

AgentPidge · 27/06/2026 20:52

Two points: I don't think you need to justify the way you want to bring up your children or where you want to live.

Second: your parents obviously have a bit of a small-town view. Also, they feel a bit disconnected from their dgch because they live so far away and aren't like the kids who grow up in Cobham.

It's a shame they're so small-minded. Lots of small-minded people are a bit racist. You could try to change their views, but ultimately I think you'd be banging your head against a brick wall. They are of course entitled to their views, however ignorant.

Your best bet is to try to ignore the racism and to foster a better relationship between your parents and their dgch. As your DC grow, in years and in confidence, they'll hopefully show your parents what lovely, open and well-rounded people they are.

TheLette · 27/06/2026 20:53

TBF if your kids went to any kind of school in Cobham surely there would be some non-white / non-English children? Quite different I suppose but in south London my children's classes are very mixed (which is great in my opinion, reflects the local area and gives a great opportunity to learn about people from different backgrounds).

BreakingBroken · 27/06/2026 20:53

Sounds to me like they miss you and are grieving what they thought their future would be. Yes, you and the family are doing well but I sense they wanted a closer connection. That your move has denied them even a cultural connection with your children.

CryptoFascist · 27/06/2026 20:54

They sound extremely chauvinistic.

cupfinalchaos · 27/06/2026 20:55

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She was justifying their move and giving examples of how they fill their time as her parents obviously aren’t ok with how her children are being raised.

ForCyanShaker · 27/06/2026 20:55

SavBlancinRecovery · 27/06/2026 20:50

Your kids are international expats & that will never leave them. Good on you & they sound like they have a great life.

raising a kid in England (especially a Surrey version of England) is very much different to an expat existence.

only you will know which one is best. Not for your racist parents to decide either thank goodness

we have done both. Childhood in England trumps it for us but for my adult life I’d return to the expat bubble in a heartbeat! 🤣

good book to read on the subject is Third Culture kids by David Pollock

Thank you for the book recommendation I have heard of it I’ll definitely take a look.

We like it here but sometimes we do think maybe we should raise our children in England but they like it here. We are very much settled it’s not as though they can never move in England. If they do decide to go to university, they’ll most likely go to university in England, they’ll pay home fees not international student fees. We have looked into every possibility it is why we come back to England so often to make sure they’re still somewhat connected to the country. They’re essentially only in Dubai because DH and I work here.

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