Childbirth: "a disgusting moment"

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Cannot see this anywhere else.

Footballer Jeremy Doku plans to leave his Belgium team mates to be at the birth of his first child.

From BBC website:
However, Doku's plan to leave the USA and return home has brought fierce criticism from L'Equipe channel presenter France Pierron, who labelled a father "completely useless" at the time of their child's birth.
"The World Cup is an incredible joy," she said in a message posted to the Facebook page of French sports publication L'Equipe.
"There are hundreds of footballers who would kill to be in your shoes. It might never happen again in your life.
"You're living out a childhood dream, yet you're going to walk away from it all to attend the birth of your child - a disgusting moment, if you'll pardon the expression, where the dad is completely useless."

My husband was also pretty shit to be fair.

I like the idea of having someone by your side as your rock, that must be lovely.

That's unfair.

I'm glad he is prioritising his partner and child. As football is a team game success doesn't rely solely on one person. Hopefully he'll get the opportunity to play in future World Cups. I'm very glad my DH was at my births but would have excused him if he was an Olympian or similar. Perhaps careful family planning is needed?

Absolutely. I don’t think men should be shielded at all.

And when they get told he missed their birth to be there?

Some women actually enjoy being pregnant AND giving birth!!! Not everyone had a horror story to tell. Pregnancy and birth can be a wonderful and calm experience.

My husband wasn’t useless, he was my absolute rock. And those children have been his life.

Any person who puts sport above family is not worth having a family with.

An so? So what? My father wasn't there when I was born. Neither was he there when my sibling was born. We both couldn't care less about it. What difference does it make to our lives? If my dad had been playing in the World Cup, this would be way more significant for me, than the fact he was there when I was being pushed out. It's a real source of pride.

I see nothing wrong with what the Frenchwoman said. She's right. And birth IS disgusting.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

No I’m just saying it was a different generation and different customs. My dad wasn’t even allowed in the hospital when I was born, not to mention in the delivery room

My DH is a boomer and was useful. Even if it was just a hand to hold (very tightly) and someone to swear at.

And what about his wife?

My husband wouldn't have left me to give birth alone for anything in the world.

It is entirely unnecessary for women to suffer - unless they are in a country where anaesthesia and safe birth are not available- which apparently includes many hospitals in the U.K. according to the CQC and recent news reports.

In France and Switzerland , no woman of my acquaintance ever suffered greatly in childbirth unless they chose to do without epidural or other pain relief. In France my understanding was that the majority opt for epidural and there don’t seem to be the heart rendings, risks they warn about in the U.K. or adverse outcomes!!

Honestly my partner was a total waste of space when I was giving birth. He collapsed on the floor and almost ended up in A&E next door 😅

The midwife was also absolutely horrible and useless. I really would have preferred it if neither of them were there!

Childbirth can be brutal, even with an epidural.

You make it sound like she's getting a tooth removed.

Hmmm I think I would too. I would rather he was around afterwards. Also, men weren't at the birth years ago. They weren't all terrible fathers. There have been crap fathers who were at the birth since! Playing in the World Cup is quite important if you are a footballer and probably enables her to have a huge amount of cash at her disposal, private birth, pay for Doula's, nannies etc to help her.

His wife knew he’s an international footballer and what that entails. There could always be a chance he would be playing when she gave birth.

It’s the ‘disgusting moment’ comment from a woman is particularly of interest to me. What is up with that? Yes some disgusting things can happen during childbirth, but to describe it that way to me is wild for a female
in particular. Can anyone who speaks French elaborate if this is slightly lost in translation?

Why would you say you don't personally feel dads should be in the delivery room, without telling us why?

I'm curious to know your reason?

I couldn't think of anyone wanted more at my births apart from the midwife.

Credit to him and the Frenchwoman's comments are awful.
I thought the nurses would be scooping DH off the floor, but he was bloody brilliant at each birth and for his paternity leave.

“Sport or hobby” 🙄

It’s his JOB. And one that lasts a very limited time for any player.

You make it sound like he’s chosen to do ParkRun instead!

Yep my now ex husband was totally useless, I had my mum for the next

And yet, he's choosing to be with her.

Good for him.

Im sure you’re correct. However not being able to feel any pain does tend to improve matters.

He’s allowed to have an opinion, you don’t have to agree with it!