I didn’t realise Starmer was viewed so badly ,,

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He came into government at a challenging time - I didn’t realise his confidence score was so so The fatal flaw that brought Keir Starmer crashing down to earth

https://www.thetimes.com/article/8e98de80-1d48-4d1a-8408-ff4d48e1957c?shareToken=44bb913634621653058dd12f864e3eff

The Lib Dem’s have lined up with the greens in terms of unlawful discriminatory party practices.

But at least when he makes a mistake or an error of judgement (Mandelson aside) he admits it and doesn't proceed like some other arrogant self-serving PMs have done just to save face. To my mind, where Labour are letting themselves down, is not letting the general public know about their successes in 2 years with data and information. All we hear about, mainly from the media (surprise surprise) are their failures. Trust me, the press will say / embellish whatever will sell their papers, get internet clicks, get their programmes watched etc. (I was once on the end of a totally fabricated tabloid press story just because I used to work for a very famous individual and the outside of my home was photographed. I had press ringing my doorbell for days and was trapped inside (at the advice of this individual’s press officer so the press couldn’t get a photo of me). It was horrendous !).

And of course The Times is considered as being on the Right (Conservative) politically, so they are bound to come up with this sort of article…

One of the ‘successes’; renters reform pushing landlords to sell up reducing the availability of rental property against a back drop of very high immigration putting much higher demand on housing. Together putting people looking for rental homes in a harder position inevitably pushing up rents too.

It is a fairly typical labour policy where the policy looks good if you are wearing blinkers and ignore the wider context or inevitable unintended consequences,

The Guardian (hopefully left enough for you) are reporting he will resign tomorrow. So not only Times reporters thinking he is unpopular…

I’m sorry to say that not only yabu. At this point you are just ignorant and deluded.

Are you like all the people who fail to appreciate that we need immigration and our NHS and care system would pretty much fall apart without it. And we need more working age adults coming in too as our population ages and birth rate continues to fall.

There’s a huge difference between managed, skills based migration and large numbers of often traumatised men entering the country and.being placed unsupervised in unsuspecting communities. Some of these men have turned out to be terrorists, criminals and ultra violent. That is not the migration we accept.

And under the current system with many skills visas, migrants are allowed to bring in family members which includes older people putting even greater pressure on our services for little benefit.

And while we have British medical students unable to find a job here and 5% general unemployment, I don’t think you can reasonably claim that the NHS and care system will ‘fall apart’ without it.

Are you like all the people who fail to appreciate that we need immigration and our NHS and care system would pretty much fall apart without it. And we need more working age adults coming in too as our population ages and birth rate continues to fall.

^^whoever said this is totally brainwashed and unable to see reality in front of their eyes.

Yes thanks. Guardian is generally my go to but not had time to read it today. I watched Laura Kuensberg earlier and of course it was all about how he’s on his last legs. We’ll see no doubt.

Most of the UK newspapers have a strong right-wing bias (The Times, The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Sun and The Daily Express) as does GB News. Predictably, they have given Starmer a very hard time, despite the fact that he inherited a mess that was not of his making (an economy weakened by Brexit and Covid and a public sector hollowed out by years of Tory asset-stripping).

Whilst I don’t admire Starmer’s habit of dealing with scandal by throwing one of his colleagues under the bus, I think he’s extremely intelligent and has a work ethic and diligence that I did not see in say, Boris Johnson or Liz Truss.

He doesn’t deserve to be “the most hated Prime Minister ever” or whatever the right-wing tabloids are currently calling him.

Can't wait to see the back of him and RR. Labour have done nothing positive for the 🇬🇧 since coming into power.

Admitting a mistake is one thing, but continued u turns mean people can’t trust his judgment, makes him look weak and indecisive

I’m sure you understand what ‘spin’ means.

Take their ‘Youth guarantee to get Britain working’ aim for example.

Labour is supporting young people to earn or learn with 500,000 new jobs, apprenticeships and training opportunities - including a guaranteed job for 18-
24-year-olds out of work for 18 months.

Judging by that you’d think they actually wanted to reduce your unemployment.

Except that the recent 2% rise to 16% youth unemployment has been significantly contributed to by Rachel Reeves NI and minimum wage changes and it’s doubtful anything will improve in the future. If you look at the changes and their wider measures that negatively impact the hospitality industry, it’s not a surprise.

Where are they going to magic up 500,000 new entry level jobs when we’ve got large number of unskilled migrants also competing for those jobs when eligible?

As @Dragonscaledaisy said, dishonest spin.

U turns happen because you have not researched a policy enough before announcing it - too focused on chasing sound bites and positive headlines than the hard graft.

This.

Unfortunately he, and his assembled bunch of incompetents, seem also unable to accurately define (and appreciate) an actual working person.

Shall we all get off our phones now and go and enjoy the day ?

What's lot of mistakes he's having to own up to though.

Sadly I know this too

Yes, as a LL I can tell you rents are going up and most new renters now either have to have a guarantor or rental insurance costing renters more.

Renters more.

He reminds me of my uni days when positions came up to be student reps. That's how his country first speeches come across. Never fit to be PM.

It's not rubbish. Ive had Saturday hospital appointments and scans. I've seen the legislation coming through at work having an impact.

I do also (despite being politically left) see that immigration and Asylum has put an immense pressure on public services and that has negatively impacted alot of people who rely on those services. I think there are some sensible controls proposed by this govt but both the right and the greens on left criticise those for different reasons.

No one I know is particularly scathing of him, unlike Boris and a lot of the Tories who changed every other week. I don't want to go through all of that turmoil again and really hope the media stop running stories as if they alone control democracy rather than the public having a vote after they tell us to ditch Starmer and try another one for no apparent reason other than Russia

His own back benchers are the problem - not other parties !

I am not a fan of Starmer but I can’t stand the ‘Keir starmer’s a wanker’ chants. So childish and juvenile.