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AIBU to conclude women pretty much always outshine men overall?

242 replies

Unsddd · 20/06/2026 16:24

Or is it just me? I find that men, as nice as they can be, are just a little bit shit.

And even if they’re not shit, they’re just not as good as the woman they’re with or a woman of similar age and circumstance.

I see it everywhere. My parents. Friends’ relationships. Colleagues. The sense of entitlement, putting themselves first, not being as organised, not thinking ahead in the same way, letting their mood affect everyone around them…. I am not saying women are not like this, of course they can be. But it’s rare it’s to the extent of men.

Maybe it is just me. I’m old and cynical these days.

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Imaginary86 · 21/06/2026 00:52

Indianajet · 20/06/2026 16:55

Yet another man bashing thread. Boring.

I was just thinking that. Seems to be a lot of them lately

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2026 01:04

YANBU @Unsddd.

Women are kinder, just as clever, more useful and prettier than men.

And before folk jump on me with tales of "Not my Nigel", I'm not talking about your "Nigel"s who I'm sure are lovely. ❤️. I'm talking about men as a class.

randomchap · 21/06/2026 01:08

What is this meant to achieve? Just rage baiting for clicks?

troothfairy · 21/06/2026 01:12

Threads like this would be deleted if they were denigrating women.

Meadowfinch · 21/06/2026 01:23

Musney · 20/06/2026 16:34

Men have created, built and maintain all of society everything we have is almost exclusively down to them.

We are privileged, respected and given preferential treatment.

If you want to so a society where men don't do this go to Afghanistan

The opinion you describe is why so many women are single they are completely overvaluing themselves and don't even have the skills their mother's and grandmother's had

Please Mumsnet, give us the laughing emoji back.

Ughhhhhhhhhhh · 21/06/2026 01:29

I agree OP.

I am pig-headed about taking public transport when I travel - no matter how big the suitcase or how complicated the route, I am never getting a cab to the airport/train station. Matter of principle rather than money.

Anyway, I digress.

Whenever I’m struggling with a big suitcase up the stairs, it is always - ALWAYS - another woman who offers to help me with it. Never a man. In fact, I can be almost certain that a woman will offer to help at some point during my journey.

I’m sure some will say “oh men are just afraid to ask in case you take it the wrong way” but come on!

YourShyLion · 21/06/2026 01:30

You're wrong. You just need to read these boards to see that it is the exact opposite.

SquirrelGG · 21/06/2026 02:03

Unsddd · 20/06/2026 16:43

@araiwa that’s my point thought. It’s not the labels and ‘achievements.’ It’s the positive character traits… nowhere close to those that women have.

What, all women? I have known some right bitches in my time and have wondered what on earth their male partners saw in them, or why they stayed with them.

RockItLikeRocketFuel · 21/06/2026 02:07

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2026 01:04

YANBU @Unsddd.

Women are kinder, just as clever, more useful and prettier than men.

And before folk jump on me with tales of "Not my Nigel", I'm not talking about your "Nigel"s who I'm sure are lovely. ❤️. I'm talking about men as a class.

Kinder and prettier are unquantifiable, for one thing. Just as clever? More useful? Fine, put it into productive action and catch up with men on inventions and scientific discoveries that benefit humanity.

That's before even considering the character traits necessary to put one's own life at risk in the name of your country. Go and join the men keeping the Russians out of the rest of Ukraine, or for that matter go and join the Russian men trying to take it from them.

Or that there is no sport in which the best woman is better than the best man. Literally every single athletic men's world record is faster, further or higher than the women's. Go and outsprint Usain Bolt, outjump Mike Powell or Jonathan Edwards, outvault Armand Duplantis or outthrow Jan Železný .

Then come back and tell us that women outshine men.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2026 03:01

No they're not. We teach our children that if they are lost they should seek out a woman in uniform. Why? Why don't we tell them to look for a man?

Because they are more likely to be safer and have a better outcome seeking help from a woman. That's why.

Women totally hold their own wrt to scientific, mathematics, biological knowledge. They've been at the forefront for millenia.😁

As for putting one's own life at risk in the name of your country? Women have done that year in and year out since time began. Not just once a generation, or century during war. Women have always fought in wars. Women have always suffered more than men because of wars.

I don't really care about men who can run faster than women, or hit balls harder. I get it's entertaining, but it's not really that important.🤷‍♀️

6ate9 · 21/06/2026 06:24

There’s a reason why NO women have passed the SAS training to join the UK Special Forces. Women are just not strong enough. We need both men and women to function in society.

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 21/06/2026 06:34

Unsddd · 20/06/2026 16:24

Or is it just me? I find that men, as nice as they can be, are just a little bit shit.

And even if they’re not shit, they’re just not as good as the woman they’re with or a woman of similar age and circumstance.

I see it everywhere. My parents. Friends’ relationships. Colleagues. The sense of entitlement, putting themselves first, not being as organised, not thinking ahead in the same way, letting their mood affect everyone around them…. I am not saying women are not like this, of course they can be. But it’s rare it’s to the extent of men.

Maybe it is just me. I’m old and cynical these days.

No. Without exception, including my own mother. The most toxic, cruel, hateful and spiteful people I have ever known have been other women. The menu I've met have been far, far nicer, helpful, even when there was nothing in it for them.

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 21/06/2026 06:38

Ughhhhhhhhhhh · 21/06/2026 01:29

I agree OP.

I am pig-headed about taking public transport when I travel - no matter how big the suitcase or how complicated the route, I am never getting a cab to the airport/train station. Matter of principle rather than money.

Anyway, I digress.

Whenever I’m struggling with a big suitcase up the stairs, it is always - ALWAYS - another woman who offers to help me with it. Never a man. In fact, I can be almost certain that a woman will offer to help at some point during my journey.

I’m sure some will say “oh men are just afraid to ask in case you take it the wrong way” but come on!

Come on what?

We have told them to leave us alone and not bother us. They have listened and doing what we asked.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/06/2026 06:40

Pitting men and women against each other, then still demanding equality. Nice one 👍

GreenChameleon · 21/06/2026 06:40

Why are there so many of these threads lately? They're so stupid.

6ate9 · 21/06/2026 06:52

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 21/06/2026 06:38

Come on what?

We have told them to leave us alone and not bother us. They have listened and doing what we asked.

I find it’s nearly always men that let me cross a busy road. The women car drivers very rarely do.

Squirrelsnut · 21/06/2026 06:55

Musney · 20/06/2026 16:34

Men have created, built and maintain all of society everything we have is almost exclusively down to them.

We are privileged, respected and given preferential treatment.

If you want to so a society where men don't do this go to Afghanistan

The opinion you describe is why so many women are single they are completely overvaluing themselves and don't even have the skills their mother's and grandmother's had

Like using apostrophes correctly?

I think an awful lot of women are only too happy to be single nowadays. It's the male loneliness epidemic, remember.

LanyardSpaghetti · 21/06/2026 07:01

Men have created, built and maintain all of society everything we have is almost exclusively down to them.

Yet, it is women who literally build the bodies of men.

--

Two can play at gender essentialist scorekeeping; it's a simple and rather tiresome and ridiculous game, when the practical reality is that life is full of nuanced interdependence.

Guidanceplease20 · 21/06/2026 07:06

JoyousOpalLemur · 20/06/2026 17:01

Most scientific discoveries were done by men

Because they had the advantage of better education opportunities.

My Grandmother was sufficiently able to go to grammar school. The farming family couldnt afford it. Her elder brother inherited the farm and she was sent down south to be a housekeeper. Her brother sold the farm and went into agricultural machinery/contracting.

She married, was an excellent seamstress, and took in guests. She was happy. However, her and millions of other clever women of her age never got the chance to show if they could make scientific discoveries.

Justveryveryangry · 21/06/2026 07:09

I agree OP.

It’s also true that Black women are better than white women.

Black women just have superior characters all round. White women just have the mind of the oppressive coloniser.

And before anyone says I’m being racist, you can’t be racist against white people, in the same way the OP isn’t being sexist against men.

LuckyHazelFox · 21/06/2026 07:10

Justveryveryangry · 21/06/2026 07:09

I agree OP.

It’s also true that Black women are better than white women.

Black women just have superior characters all round. White women just have the mind of the oppressive coloniser.

And before anyone says I’m being racist, you can’t be racist against white people, in the same way the OP isn’t being sexist against men.

Very clever!

Letamumsleep · 21/06/2026 07:13

Abitlosttoday · 21/06/2026 00:42

This entire thread is absolutely nuts. Women make everything better. They knit together the threads of life that make it worthwhile. Men do not. Men's achievements are built on the backs of women's labour. Men rape and murder at a ludicrously higher rate than women do. Pull yourself together Mumsnet. Women are builders and fighters. They're courageous and insightful, hard working and empathetic. Women don't have the accolades and prestige because we are oppressed - yes, we are still oppressed, because we live in a patriarchy. We need to build each other up, protect each other, and champion female solidarity. Come the fuck on.

Is everyone that unaware about the amount of huge scientific discoveries stolen from their wives?

Women are better than men.

6ate9 · 21/06/2026 07:13

Ughhhhhhhhhhh · 21/06/2026 01:29

I agree OP.

I am pig-headed about taking public transport when I travel - no matter how big the suitcase or how complicated the route, I am never getting a cab to the airport/train station. Matter of principle rather than money.

Anyway, I digress.

Whenever I’m struggling with a big suitcase up the stairs, it is always - ALWAYS - another woman who offers to help me with it. Never a man. In fact, I can be almost certain that a woman will offer to help at some point during my journey.

I’m sure some will say “oh men are just afraid to ask in case you take it the wrong way” but come on!

It was always men that would help me carry my buggy with my baby up the flight of stairs on the underground. I would never ask as I could manage it, but they often offered and I would always be grateful and accept.

Sartre · 21/06/2026 07:15

I take it you don’t have sons then since you clearly dislike males so much? Both sexes have different but equally important things to offer the world. It’s ok to say we’re different too, women largely don’t want to be bricklayers, electricians or engineers but we need those professions.

HelmholtzWatson · 21/06/2026 07:15

Unsddd · 20/06/2026 16:43

@araiwa that’s my point thought. It’s not the labels and ‘achievements.’ It’s the positive character traits… nowhere close to those that women have.

Next time you or someone close to you is trapped in a burning building or drowning, and someone selflessly risks their own life to save you, make sure you thank him.

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