AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

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Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

I strongly believe women and girls should be able to wear what they like without being called out on it

In everyday life yes I agree, everyone should wear what they want. If you’re in a place of school or work that requires a uniform then obviously you follow the rules and can’t wear what you want

Years ago, Jodie Marsh wore two belts. That’s fully dressed these days for some of the girls

There was a trend when I was a teen for boys to wear their (overly baggy) trousers around their thighs almost, with 70% of their underwear on show and often with one hand down them. People said then how disgusting it was, that they didn't want to see their underwear and it was not a good look. This is in the same realm to me.
We rolled our skirts up at school, most generations have but not to the level of exposing arse cheeks and knickers. There are already Year 5/6 girls getting this message, rolling up their skirts or wearing ones that are too small so they are shorter. It's a safeguarding risk, and the school are right to address it. Children at high school are still children, I do not want to see a 12/13 year olds bum cheeks driving home yet that's what I saw recently.

The high-rolled skirts are a bad idea because they’re introducing additional sexual tension into a place - school - where it doesn’t belong. So many straight women seem to have no idea how incredibly uncomfortable it is for anyone who’s attracted to women to be around physically mature teenage girls who are exposing way too much skin.

I grew up in India and this isn't a thing. We dress respectfully for school there. My DDs at their all girls grammar school never did this.

My son went to the boys grammar where the 6th form was mixed. I asked him about this and he honestly told me that 99% of the time all the girls had no uniform issues. Once a friend got an informal nudge to wear a longer skirt the next day and that was it.

If the boys where showing their pants wearing the trouser like some kind of rapper I think they would send the same kind of letter.
There is a dress code and not showing your underwear is called decorum.
If we have to remind adult people that you can't show your undies in, school, church, court room, a wedding, at most works, a reception at Buckingham Palace etc etc we are screwed.
Flashing your undies doesn't make you better person or reinforce your self esteem, makes you a pusher that what's to push a dress code in this instance. Teens push boundaries is up to us to tell them no.

There was a fad a few years ago for boys to wear extremely low slung jeans or trousers and show off their designer underwear. I disliked looking at boys underwear. It always had the brand name on display

I think the wording was fine. It’s not a good idea for all sorts of reasons that parents can/should explain to their daughters. The school doesn’t need to spell it out. Of course public nudity makes these girls vulnerable. And of course they will keep pushing the envelope. I’ve seen quite a lot lot of bare bottoms myself, poor teachers must struggle to know where to look sometimes.

Do you say the same when you see boys when the weather is above 15 degrees showing their nipples or you just do not care that they are showing ALL their body??

True

What's your point OP?

Surely your focus should be on agreeing with the school that pupils should not show their bum/knickers in public?

I don't see any misogyny or blame implied in this request. It is just common sense.

The school's job is already hard enough without parents 'challenging' them about this non-issue.

I know this…hence the letter was sent. Fortunately we don’t see this as much in primary school.

This again!

What makes some girls want to roll their skirts up and others not though? Don't remember it being a thing in my school in the 70's. It was a convent school though, lol.

I didn’t roll my skirt up in the 90s. I hemmed it like a proper lady. However that would have been significantly below the knickers and probably to mid thigh.

No one should be allowed to wear whatever and whenever. You can't wear a bikini to a funeral or to a meeting. Dress codes and appropriateness exist

How is it sexist? Do boys roll their skirts up, or only the girls?

So it applies to girls

Even though the paragraph doesnt mention any sex.

For most of my senior school years, the fashion was either knee length or maxi skirts. I remember being sad that my mum wouldn't let me have a maxi skirt, when those were ‘in’. Basically, I somehow ended up with skirts that were always deeply unfashionable - but at least we weren’t contending with micro mini skirts - my thunder thighs would not have been fit for public viewing - not that mum would have permitted anything above knee length. And I was too scared of her to have even considered rolling up my skirt. 😂😂😂

Pupils wear their uniform for parents evening at our school. I can count on one hand the number of girls who don’t have their skirt rolled. The parents are with them and don’t care. I’ve even seen posts on Facebook where people ask where can they take their DD’s skirt to be shortened (box pleat) as they don’t want to be picked on for having a skirt on the knee. Baffles me tbh.

Maybe a change of tack is needed. Instead of tutting, euphemism and pearl clutching take the piss instead. Its a thing because kids want to shock. and attract the opposite sex
All the teachers join in..butt cheeks, undies on display, 59 yr old Mr Rogers art teacher, normally a tweed jacket and elbow patches suddenly in joggers walking around with his hand down the front. Mrs Williams, English teacher aged 45 with skirt so short her butt is on display. Letter to parents beforehand saying that as the kids think its a great look all staff have been instructed to lead by example. 🙈😉😂😂

Yes I saw two girls today wearing those really tight shorts with the bottom half of their buttocks on display. It’s appalling. Young girls today seem to have no sense of privacy, decency or self respect.

Nobody reasonable wants to see schoolgirls arses.......except you

I see so many teenage girls with their arse cheeks hanging out. Now, I am all for wear what you want but they are representing the school when in uniform. It is a bit like it would not be acceptable to have your arse cheeks hanging out if you worked in an office with a business attire dress code. Maybe they could have worded it that way.

Well I think short skirst hav een around since the sixties so they're not new

What is new, is this semi gaslighting that you mustnt say anything, you mustnt point out that its not appropriate to display your private parts and huge parts of your flesh unless you're literally trying to sunbath, cool down or attract a mate. thats the reality people dont want to hear.

I don’t know why schools don’t insist on culottes instead of skirts or ones with dropped waists then pleats.