AIBU to challenge the school’s wording about pupils rolling skirts up?

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Weekly newsletter today from DC’s secondary school contained a paragraph on uniform including the fact that there have been complaints from the public about “pupils who choose to wear skirts” rolling them up to wear them extremely short. It finishes with asking parents to speak to their children about why this is “not a good idea”.

Now, apart from the fact I assume that they must mean girls, is this not clearly implying that short skirts = making themselves vulnerable and if is, then if anything bad happens as a result it is their own fault? I thought we had moved beyond this kind of nonsense.

I only have boys at the school not girls but want to write to the head to point out how utterly sexist this is. DH agrees with me pov but thinks I shouldn’t write. AIBU?

Going to school with a thong and your arse cheeks on full display, leaving sweaty arse prints and more on communal furniture is not on. Nothing to do with misogyny, everything to do with a minimum of manners.

My DD wears shorts under her skirt, so no butt on display. Nothing will change unless the school enforces it.

These young girls are often very attractive, prime of youthful life, but somehow succeed in making thenselves look unattractive by this ridiculous habit

Dignity, once a regarded moral fabric of society, is dying.

I have seen girls wearing skirts so low that you would mistake them for a belt. The boys, well, they're sagging their grey-coloured boxers, leaving nothing to the imagination.

I am fortunate that my DD and DS attend a private school, and the head teacher is incredibly strict about how the students present themselves to the world.

You don't think parents have a role?

Can you explain what you mean please?

I feel that it needs said but there is no way to phase it without someone finding something to complain about. I have been on the bus before and groups of school girls walk past and you can see their bum cheeks. They probably roll them down again before getting into the house (I used to when I was at school) so it's a good idea for parents to make sure their children know the dangers.

I was lucky as I went to school at a time where people didn't have good camera phones and constantly had their phones in their hand. Now everyone is sitting there holding their phones. Times have changed.

I would ban skirts in schools. I'd be getting whoever is trending online / in music / YT to promote baggy culottes instead. Or capri trousers. Or anything high-waisted, and plenty of room at the crotch. Sick of designers forgetting women's genitals are also on the outside. Or force the uniform to be 'skirts with skin-tight shorts built in'. Make the shorts a minimum length and the kids won't want to pull their skirts up any more for fashion reasons. And even if they do: so what. Problem solved.

There have been numerous posts on this subject with a surprising amount of PPs declaring that young pubescent girls should be allowed to dress as they wish for school, and if that includes displaying their naked arse cheeks, then so be it 🤨

Well it isnt a good idea. They're right. It violates the dress code. Even my workplace has one. I can't go to work in a microskirt either. (not that i want to!)

Nothing about anything bad happening being anyone's fault. It violates a dress code. Simple as.

I echo this.

Schools are pandering to fashion requirements. Girls' uniforms are already sexualised.

Bring back traditional uniforms.

I wonder if they'd all champion the right for men and boys to wear as little as they like too?

I rest my case 😆

'Sweaty arse prints'. The bile and vitriol aimed at young girls is absolutely appalling.

They all wear tights, usually thick black tights. These thongs and sweaty arse cheeks are maybe a figment of a rather fevered imagination?

There's no need to be so inappropriate.

Yes, perverts have always existed; however, ill-fitting school uniforms further add to the problem.

Mini-skirts are NOT suitable garments.

There are parts of our bodies which are not normally on display to anyone except intimate partners. For safeguarding reasons children are taught what is appropriate for revealing/touching. There is no acceptable or benign reason for wanting to erode or break down these norms. Somehow our young women and teenagers have been conditioned to think that showing their intimate parts is empowering. I wonder who this benefits?

I would include all the women parading around hotel swimming pools in thong bikinis in this absolute con too. It isn’t empowering to have your arse on display and quite frankly flashing your undercarriage whenever you move around on your sunbed should be an indecency offence.

Boys should be able wear shorts, why not? Or do you think the female staff would feel uncomfortable at hairy legs on show?

Of course, but unless the school is on board, nothing will change.

Why can't the school just forbid it? Skirts must be knee-length (or whatever), end of? The world's gone mad.

It wouldn't excuse anyone attacking us adults if we went to work showing our actual arses, but we'd be fools if we did that and expected to be taken seriously (and not disciplined). The idea of traditional UK school uniform has always been that it reflects adult professional attire. Nothing wrong with teaching kids of both sexes to have some respect for themselves and others, and to understand that the majority of people they meet do not wish to see their underwear (or even if they do, they shouldn't, in a place of work or education).

Yes. Enforce knee-length skirts. An easy solution to a very simple problem.

As a 30yr old lass, I also don't wish to see teens with their bums out. Quite apart from them clearly being absolutely freezing.

Enforce knee length skirts…which they then roll up…

Oh no they don't!

You are being either very naive or disingenuous, and I don't know which.

To an extent I do agree with this, but not ankle skirts they're absurd, uncomfortable and extremely warm. Girls should just be allowed to wear trousers if they want to.