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To think life is more of a pain in the arse than it's worth

310 replies

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 21:40

Another day another random assortment of hassle and pain

And this is pretty much the best it's ever been (ok the 00s were better)

Aibu to wonder why this is a secret truth?

OP posts:
Jasmine222 · 19/06/2026 04:14

Wow, I don't resonate with this at all. I'm grateful for my life every single day, not saying it's perfect and a there are things we can't control but I'm bloody grateful for everything I have. Genuinely deeply grateful. I think your post is offensive to people suffering from terminal illnesses or trapped in a war zone, who would give anything to just live. I also resent people who take one look at me smiling and laughing and assume my positive outlook has been handed to me freely with no effort. I've actually done a lot of work on myself to overcome a lot of anxiety and depression. You sound depressed OP, there's help available..

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 04:38

ItsNotMeEither · 19/06/2026 03:51

I'm the exact opposite. I find the idea of wanting to talk about the 'futility of life' depressing.

I watch a lot of news, I don't avoid the realities of existence, but there's still far more good in life than bad. We all have crap days, months or years sometimes, but that only serves to help me appreciate all the good things in life.

I'm definitely a glass half full person (or maybe 9/10 full). If a day starts out bad, there's still something good to find in the darkest of times.

I'm generally pretty optimistic and 'make the most of things' in my approach to life. I don't find the idea that life is futile or has no meaning at all problematic. That alone makes the meaning to just make the most of the here and now. I'm content with that.

Squirrelsnut · 19/06/2026 05:47

I felt happier as I got older (55). Learning about philosophy helped a lot. And Buddhism. I think people search for happiness in the wrong places. It's never going to be external, well not to any extent.

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 05:59

SquirrelGG · 18/06/2026 22:09

That's not my experience at all. I love life and most of the people in my world seem to be happy enough with it, despite the hassles. Life is what you make it.

Says someone who's never had depression....
You're v lucky

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 06:02

Bebeemerald · 18/06/2026 22:23

Has that impacted your life? Did you know him?

It impacts your life if you are sensitive and are an empath

Icanseeasquirrel · 19/06/2026 06:05

Hard disagree.
Yes it can be hard to be a human. It’s the human condition. Lives of quiet desperation and all that. And it’s why so many humans invented the various gods.
But I am deeply happy in my 60s and still fascinated by everything. No need for a god or promise of heaven. Getting older helps. And being lucky.
A garden
A book
A cat
A cup of tea
Watching videos of birds raising their babies.
There is so much to be joyful for.

OutsideLookingOut · 19/06/2026 06:10

I was thinking about starting a thread similar to this. I wonder if most people see life as a gift? I never have.

I remember thinking I wish I had never been in existence from
as early as 6 years old. It doesn’t mean you are suicidal, you’d just rather not have to deal with the bother.

Are there are a significant amount of people who feel the same way but feel they can’t say it?

Recklessismymiddlename · 19/06/2026 06:18

namechange6766333545544 · 18/06/2026 22:29

I’m one of those people who struggles with life. I’ve put it down to having chronic serious health problems. I can hardly say I’m thriving.

This is me also. Different conditions. Been particularly bad this year. I mean it’s always bad, but this year it’s off the scale. Even my youngest said, mum you never seem to get a break. I’ve become a shell of myself this year.

Since I was 15. I’m now in my 60’s. Daily. Most days I cope, as it’s not too bad. But this year, simply been unable to really leave the house much and not on my own. Can’t really see an end to it at the moment. Hopefully the new meds start working quickly! I just feel for dh as he has to do so much more.

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:31

I'm having a good time 🤷‍♀️. Sorry you're not.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 06:35

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:31

I'm having a good time 🤷‍♀️. Sorry you're not.

Hopefully for your your good time doesn't end abruptly so that you can empathise with those who maybe aren't so lucky.

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:38

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 06:35

Hopefully for your your good time doesn't end abruptly so that you can empathise with those who maybe aren't so lucky.

Uh, I did. That's why I said sorry that the OP isn't.

I was just making the point that not everyone thinks life is shit. And I've had plenty of hard times too.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 06:45

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:38

Uh, I did. That's why I said sorry that the OP isn't.

I was just making the point that not everyone thinks life is shit. And I've had plenty of hard times too.

The shrug emoji made it look a bit sarcastic.

There's hard times and then there's hard times. I guarantee you won't be having such a good time for years if one of your children, your husband or yourself die or is diagnosed with a terminal or serious illness next week.

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:49

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 06:45

The shrug emoji made it look a bit sarcastic.

There's hard times and then there's hard times. I guarantee you won't be having such a good time for years if one of your children, your husband or yourself die or is diagnosed with a terminal or serious illness next week.

The shrug emoji was about me having a good time. Not after I said sorry.

I've lost several family members to various things. Yes, if I lost my husband or child tomorrow my life would be shit for a while. Doesn't mean that everyone else's lives are also shit and that they're all lying about it.

WhatNextImScared · 19/06/2026 07:00

Bebeemerald · 18/06/2026 23:12

Yes. There’s an awful lot of depressive illness on this thread masquerading as ‘that’s life.’ It’s not. And I’d urge all of you feeling like this to get help

I disagree, despite being in the ‘life is amazing, albeit with some tangibly shit bits’ camp myself. Some of what we’re seeing is not mental illness but just different personality styles. Even from the youngest ages, we see the world in different ways. I have one child who is very light hearted and one who has been always close to ennui from her earliest days. She’s not unwell, and my looser living child isn’t an idiot either. They are just very differently wired.

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 07:01

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 05:59

Says someone who's never had depression....
You're v lucky

I was responding to a post by the OP, who apparently is not suffering from depression.

No, I have never had it and agree that I am lucky. I do have one friend who suffers from it, but even she seems to be able to find joy at times and I can't imagine her making a post like the original one, which seems to be from someone who simply can't be bothered looking for the good things in life.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 07:02

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 06:49

The shrug emoji was about me having a good time. Not after I said sorry.

I've lost several family members to various things. Yes, if I lost my husband or child tomorrow my life would be shit for a while. Doesn't mean that everyone else's lives are also shit and that they're all lying about it.

Edited

No, some people are in happy oblivion about how life can be. I remember being there too.

Losing elderly relatives or parents isn't the same as some tragedy that involves your child or even your spouse. That's in the natural order. Though at least the spouse is more in the natural order than a child if you get old enough. Even with all I've been through and losing a child and finding out my other children are at risk, I can appreciate that I'm not in the position of those poor people who lose their whole family in one swoop. What a nightmare.

That's not to say I'm not having a good time. I'm having a good time at the same time as managing the shit. I'm quite content with the idea that life has no deeper meaning and we're all just creating our own meaning on whatever level we choose.

Some days it does cross my mind that the only escape I have is when I do eventually die, but I still want to get really old. Meanwhile, I'm creating my own fun and joy.

Evaka · 19/06/2026 07:04

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 22:12

No it's a shit show of chores and dealing with wankers. I'm not saying you shouldn't feel free to feel differently but it's objectively gash around here.

Objectively gash around here. You are a wordsmith.

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 07:08

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 07:02

No, some people are in happy oblivion about how life can be. I remember being there too.

Losing elderly relatives or parents isn't the same as some tragedy that involves your child or even your spouse. That's in the natural order. Though at least the spouse is more in the natural order than a child if you get old enough. Even with all I've been through and losing a child and finding out my other children are at risk, I can appreciate that I'm not in the position of those poor people who lose their whole family in one swoop. What a nightmare.

That's not to say I'm not having a good time. I'm having a good time at the same time as managing the shit. I'm quite content with the idea that life has no deeper meaning and we're all just creating our own meaning on whatever level we choose.

Some days it does cross my mind that the only escape I have is when I do eventually die, but I still want to get really old. Meanwhile, I'm creating my own fun and joy.

Edited

I don't think I'm in a happy oblivion. I lost my dad, when I was a child, in pretty awful circumstances. I've also lost a sibling to cancer, when they were very very young.

"I'm quite content with the idea that life has no deeper meaning and we're all just creating our own meaning on whatever level we choose." I do agree with this though.

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 07:11

Caffeinepleasenow · 19/06/2026 07:08

I don't think I'm in a happy oblivion. I lost my dad, when I was a child, in pretty awful circumstances. I've also lost a sibling to cancer, when they were very very young.

"I'm quite content with the idea that life has no deeper meaning and we're all just creating our own meaning on whatever level we choose." I do agree with this though.

Those are indeed among the significant life events, so you've been there. I didn't mean you are specifically in oblivion. A lot of the general population seems to be though. Lucky them. I know I was and I'm very lucky that I got to be in my 40s before I found out how blissfully naive that position was.

Fetchthevet · 19/06/2026 07:32

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 18/06/2026 22:33

@CurdinHenry

The 00s were hard work for me. Lost my parents (and DH lost his) we had 2 young DC very close in age, a big mortgage, very little surplus income, and always something going wrong with the house, (pushing us further and further into debt.) I had a job I didn't mind, but I had several not-so-good work colleagues. (A lecherous Manager, a spiteful and bitchy supervisor who bullied me, and a woman who was really hard work: nosey, gossipy, non-stop talker.)

My free and easy times were the 1970s and 1980s. Everyone remembers their childhood/teen/young person years with fondness and affection. And everyone has their tough times. I'm sure your life will be a bit better/easier in a few years. (I hope so anyway.) My life (and DH's) is much easier now. No mortgage, kids left home over a decade ago, no debts, and a decent sum in savings.

Everybody does not remember their child/teen/young person years with fondness and affection!!

Fetchthevet · 19/06/2026 07:35

Dappy777 · 18/06/2026 23:02

Being brutally honest, yes, life is mostly sh*t. I’m in awe of people who love life. I don’t know whether they’re lucky, or insensitive or just blessed with a naturally cheerful personality. Maybe it’s all three. Some people have a gift for happiness. They’re good at it.

Personally, I have found life staggeringly awful. It genuinely amazes me that people keep bringing children into the world. Are they in denial about the reality of this horrible sh*t? Have they never watched anyone get old and ill? Or die of cancer or dementia? Have they never worked a boring, stressful job? Didn’t they go through puberty and bullying? There is a sort of conspiracy of silence about how horrible life is. Just as there is a conspiracy of silence about hard marriage really is, or how awful it can be to raise children. We have to pretend life is great or we’d all give up and everything would fall apart.

People keep having children because the maternal urge is very strong in most women. It's as simple as that. Most people don't sit down and consider the state of the world before trying for a baby. They just really really want one, to fill their maternal need.

SwitchUpTime · 19/06/2026 07:40

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 02:36

I haven't experienced anything traumatic, I never said I had. I'm talking about a range of people I know. One couple lost three children in a freak accident - is that bad enough for you?

I very much doubt that couple is happy. Maybe they put on a smile for those around them but I can’t imagine them being genuinely happy after that traumatic event.

Mingou · 19/06/2026 07:44

SwitchUpTime · 19/06/2026 07:40

I very much doubt that couple is happy. Maybe they put on a smile for those around them but I can’t imagine them being genuinely happy after that traumatic event.

Many people can be genuinely happy again after very traumatic events, whether you can imagine it or not.

SwitchUpTime · 19/06/2026 07:46

Mingou · 19/06/2026 07:44

Many people can be genuinely happy again after very traumatic events, whether you can imagine it or not.

Yes of course, but losing 3 children in a freak accident? I’m not so sure that anyone could after this.

Loulou4022 · 19/06/2026 07:47

Life is what you make it. You can chose to moan about the storms or learn to dance in the rain!

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