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AIBU to take our daughter on holiday while DH is unwell and doesnt want me to?

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Atchooch · Yesterday 18:41

This is possibly my longest ever post. I dont know how to shorten it.

DH, DD (15) and me were planning to spend the summer travelling around Europe and had started booking things.

Then DH got very unwell. He has spent most of the last few months in hospital with poor mental health. It became clear he wasn't able to go on the holiday and he expected me to cancel it.

I have refused for the following reasons:
DH's illness has hit DD really hard.
She was really, really excited about the holiday. It's the first time she's been properly excited about something in a long time. She hasn't been abroad since she was 3. She has also had a really tough year.
I think if I cancel because of DH it will really damage their relationship. Maybe that's me being dranatic.
Both DD and I need a break if I'm honest. DH has obviously dominated everything since he became ill and that's fine because it's how it needs to be. However I think it's going to be the case for a long time (possibly forever) so I think we need to minimise the impact where we can.
For the above reason I also think I need to set expectations. We cancelled a few things when he became ill and I dont want that to become the norm as harsh as that sounds. I feel like his illness can't control mine and DDs lives.
I need this. I need to prove to myself that I'll be ok. When he first went into hospital I realised how reliant I was on him and thought I wouldn't cope. That isn't healthy. I meed to prove to myself, and DD (and DH tbh) that I can do things.
DD needs to see that she doesn't need to center her world around what other people want and that she shouldn't let them stop her doing what she wants. It's really important she sees that.
I don't know when DH will be well enough to go a long weekend in the UK again, let alone anything bigger.
Financially, I expect we'll have to rely on my wage going forward so things are going to be very different and I dont know if we can afford it again.
So there is the genuine risk that it's now or never.
It just seems like the right thing to do.

As a compromise the holiday has been shortened to 10 days including travel and we will be sticking to the tourist areas instead of going off to random places like we'd planned.

I do feel awful and guilty and like I'm a bad wife for not putting him first. I do feel like I'm purposely doing sonething that I know will cause him pain. I feel like I'm letting him down and I know I will find the holiday stressful and challenging and it's really scary. Of course I'll spend most of the holiday worrying about him and feeling guilty and worrying about sonething going wrong. So then that makes me wonder why I'm doing it at all.

DH is really angry and upset over it. His anxiety is spiralling. He is feeling like I'm not listening and don't care about the impact it is having on him. He is also resentful because he will need to stay with his family while DD and me are away because he isn't well enough to be by himself.

Although, they have been very little help over the last few months so I dont know what I'll do if they wont let him stay.

They will judge me more than they already do.

My family will judge me. But my parents wouldn't even go on a daytrip alone. It meant that we missed out on things because my mum wouldn't do things if my dad wasnt able to go with her. I dont want that for my DD.

So anyway, I will be taking DD on the holiday and I'll deal with the fallout. But I was just wondering what other people would do? Would you disregard your DH and go on holiday or would you put or DH first? Please be kind. It's really upsetting and whatever I do is wrong.

OP posts:
Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 20:54

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 20:43

Yes, I understand that some people can’t go on holiday. I’m one of them this year as I can’t afford to take my children away. I don’t believe it’s an inalienable right to have a holiday. You seem shirty that I’m disagreeing with you? There are posters here saying that they had to become martyrs to their parents’ mental health when they were children. Genuinely, I would always put the child’s needs first. The DD is looking forward to her first foreign adventure. Living alongside serious mental illness as a child is terrifying and destabilising. It’s not clear from the OP’s posts if his objections are because of his mental ill health or the fact that he is a controlling man. Genuinely, a decent parent, even in illness, would want the very best for their child and for their child not to see them suffer.

I really don't have anything else to add to what i've said but I think,.given your previously stated experience of people suffering from mental illness,I find your dismissive attitude to this man's mental health and your view that a teenager's holiday takes prescedence extremely perplexing.

Sc00byDont · Yesterday 20:57

Go
ditch the guilt
and go

enjoy your trip with your daughter - you both deserve it

and your husband will be fine.

Itsseweasy · Yesterday 20:59

Your “D” H sounds horribly selfish.
Yes he’s unwell but he has no right to drag you and your poor daughter down with him.
You only get one life and your daughter only gets one childhood.
Absolutely you must both go and have a wonderful time. (It might be interesting to see how much easier and enjoyable your life actually is without having to consider him every moment).

IonianNerveGrip · Yesterday 21:01

MrsJeanLuc · Yesterday 20:38

If OP goes on this holiday and her DH's mental health deteriorates again, as it appears to be doing already, then the set back to his recovery will have long term detrimental affects on all three of them.

His mental health is ALREADY having long term detrimental effects on the family.

OP and her DD can't be held to ransom indefinitely by her DH's needs. They need a break and 10 days is hardly a long time.

Yes, that's the downside to this argument. Even if we completely ignore the child's need for respite, this isn't something like a broken leg when it could reasonably be assumed there was a time limit. There is no reason to suppose that DHs mental health will ever get to the point where there's no problem with OP going away for 10 days, and if it does it might not be when DD is still young enough to want family holidays. Tomorrow isn't promised, and some things are time limited.

Blindbobisagreatcat · Yesterday 21:02

Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 20:09

This is the typical MN view that holidays are some sort of sacred right that everyone has an entitlement to.

It may come as a shock to you that many many people can't go on holidays for lots of different reasons.
And people actually manage to survive without holidays.

I find it very strange and totally lacking in any human compassion that you think a teenage girl's perceived right to a foreign holiday trumps the welfare of her father who is suffering from a serious illness.

In circumstances such as these my compassion is with the family members who need the break because if they don't get it they'll go under. My mum's looked after my brother all of his adult life and yes he does spiral and his mental health declines when she goes away. That's why I try to help out so she can continue to cope. My mum needs that break because of what he puts her through every single day and if she didn't have it she'd crack and he'd be stuck in shitty supported housing having a much worse quality of life than he does.

FWC2026 · Yesterday 21:02

Moveoverdarlin · Yesterday 19:05

To be honest, reading your post I’d go and I probably wouldn’t come back.

So 'in sickness & in health' didn't mean anything to you?

Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 21:03

Smallorveryfaraway · Yesterday 20:37

Yes I would. Caring for your spouse doesn't stop you caring for yourself and others that you are also responsible for.
I'm the spouse that stopped holidays for my mentally ill husband. It's been 30 years since I've been out of the uk, he's never well enough, has no family I can leave him with, and the expectation was set after the first couple of cancellations that I would always prioritise him and his needs over my own. I can honestly say that my wellbeing has suffered as a result. He does also now have cancer. I've never gotten to see the places I would love to see (and never with my DH who I love deeply which would've made it even more special) and I never get a break.
I don't recommend anyone put themselves in that position and I sincerely wish every day that I'd stood my ground and put myself first those first couple of times. The thing is, you think it's just for now, but actually it could end up being forever.
And yes, when I say I would prioritise a holiday over my unwell husband it sounds terrible, but I'd still do it because I matter too.

I'm really sorry for your experience.
You feel how you feel and that is fair enough.
Ultimately only OP can take the decision over this holiday and I don't envy her having to decide one little bit. Because in situations like hers it's never going to be a guilt free one what ever she choses.

Starlight7080 · Yesterday 21:03

Go! Have an adventure with your dd whist you can. She will be an adult soon and may not want to go on holiday with you again.
I remember the post you made about your dh and it sounds like a longterm problem. So go and enjoy yourself now .
You deserve a life still.

FWC2026 · Yesterday 21:05

Sc00byDont · Yesterday 20:57

Go
ditch the guilt
and go

enjoy your trip with your daughter - you both deserve it

and your husband will be fine.

You can encourage her to go, but you cannot say her husband will be fine.

B9waiting · Yesterday 21:06

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 18:45

Please go. Prioritise your daughter. Living alongside severe mental health issues can be hellish. You both need some joy in your lives.

This! Go & have an amazing tIme & don’t feel guilty at all!!

Iloveacurry · Yesterday 21:09

Just go op. As you said, he could be like this for a long time. I’m sure he is ill, but he also sounds very selfish. He should be encouraging you both to go.

Aberdeenusername · Yesterday 21:11

Atchooch · Yesterday 18:41

This is possibly my longest ever post. I dont know how to shorten it.

DH, DD (15) and me were planning to spend the summer travelling around Europe and had started booking things.

Then DH got very unwell. He has spent most of the last few months in hospital with poor mental health. It became clear he wasn't able to go on the holiday and he expected me to cancel it.

I have refused for the following reasons:
DH's illness has hit DD really hard.
She was really, really excited about the holiday. It's the first time she's been properly excited about something in a long time. She hasn't been abroad since she was 3. She has also had a really tough year.
I think if I cancel because of DH it will really damage their relationship. Maybe that's me being dranatic.
Both DD and I need a break if I'm honest. DH has obviously dominated everything since he became ill and that's fine because it's how it needs to be. However I think it's going to be the case for a long time (possibly forever) so I think we need to minimise the impact where we can.
For the above reason I also think I need to set expectations. We cancelled a few things when he became ill and I dont want that to become the norm as harsh as that sounds. I feel like his illness can't control mine and DDs lives.
I need this. I need to prove to myself that I'll be ok. When he first went into hospital I realised how reliant I was on him and thought I wouldn't cope. That isn't healthy. I meed to prove to myself, and DD (and DH tbh) that I can do things.
DD needs to see that she doesn't need to center her world around what other people want and that she shouldn't let them stop her doing what she wants. It's really important she sees that.
I don't know when DH will be well enough to go a long weekend in the UK again, let alone anything bigger.
Financially, I expect we'll have to rely on my wage going forward so things are going to be very different and I dont know if we can afford it again.
So there is the genuine risk that it's now or never.
It just seems like the right thing to do.

As a compromise the holiday has been shortened to 10 days including travel and we will be sticking to the tourist areas instead of going off to random places like we'd planned.

I do feel awful and guilty and like I'm a bad wife for not putting him first. I do feel like I'm purposely doing sonething that I know will cause him pain. I feel like I'm letting him down and I know I will find the holiday stressful and challenging and it's really scary. Of course I'll spend most of the holiday worrying about him and feeling guilty and worrying about sonething going wrong. So then that makes me wonder why I'm doing it at all.

DH is really angry and upset over it. His anxiety is spiralling. He is feeling like I'm not listening and don't care about the impact it is having on him. He is also resentful because he will need to stay with his family while DD and me are away because he isn't well enough to be by himself.

Although, they have been very little help over the last few months so I dont know what I'll do if they wont let him stay.

They will judge me more than they already do.

My family will judge me. But my parents wouldn't even go on a daytrip alone. It meant that we missed out on things because my mum wouldn't do things if my dad wasnt able to go with her. I dont want that for my DD.

So anyway, I will be taking DD on the holiday and I'll deal with the fallout. But I was just wondering what other people would do? Would you disregard your DH and go on holiday or would you put or DH first? Please be kind. It's really upsetting and whatever I do is wrong.

I would go 100% if it comes down to what’s best for your kid and what’s best for DH- it’s kid everytime. She needs at least part of her summer filled with joy. As previous posters have said having a parent with a mental illness is very difficult it’s a break for you and your daughter xx

hellywelly3 · Yesterday 21:16

You need to go. And have a lovely relaxing time.

RedPanda2022 · Yesterday 21:20

My dh has taken our dc abroad in the summer on two years when I have been severely unwell and not able to travel. They needed it! I would go.

Sc00byDont · Yesterday 21:22

FWC2026 · Yesterday 21:05

You can encourage her to go, but you cannot say her husband will be fine.

@FWC2026 If you had read the ops previous threads, I think you would agree.

Her DH will be staying with family. He will have all his usual medical care. Yes he will be difficult and resentful because this is part of his mental illness but he will not come to any harm.

on the other hand op must be at the end of her rope and actually will probably not be fine if she doesn’t get a break soon.

equally op’s daughter has had a really difficult time with a possible autism diagnosis and seeing her father become extremely mentally unwell. She deserves a break too.

@Atchooch please try to go and enjoy yourselves.

UniversityOfLife · Yesterday 21:22

@Atchooch you’ve made a really strong argument as to why you and DD should go. As long as your DH is able to stay with family who’ll look after him, then go and don’t ruin the limited time away you have with your DD from worrying. Everything will be exactly as you’ve left it on your return.

Hope you and DD have an amazing adventure together. You both sound like you thoroughly deserve it and are in need of it.

Londonrach1 · Yesterday 21:23

Can dh go to a family member or have external support

Onmytod24 · Yesterday 21:25

Rather than asking people on here, can you not ask a member of his team who are looking after him whether it’s a good idea and how safe he will be when his family have gone? Then you can make a decision based on expert opinion rather than that of strangers.

Minnie798 · Yesterday 21:28

Yes go and don't feel guilty about it. Your dh clearly isn't able to recognise the sacrifices you have made because of him. Could be his mental health talking but even so, it's not okay for him to be so selfish.
I probably couldn't stay in a relationship with someone so dependant on me financially, emotionally and physically (with no end in sight) He should consider himself lucky that you are prepared to do that.

Pinkyponkyp · Yesterday 21:28

You should go, and being honest, if it was me, I wouldn’t be having him back when I got home. It sounds like a long standing mental health issue and I just couldn’t live in that environment. I wouldn’t want my kids to either

Focussingonme · Yesterday 21:29

Go. 100% go, make memories with your daughter, enjoy some freedom. You've already curtailed it and shortened it, that's the compromise - enjoy yourselves.

He will be fine, or he won't, and if he's not the services will intervene. You being there doesn't stop that happening or make it any less serious for him. You cannot and should not put your lives on hols.

lessglittermoremud · Yesterday 21:29

Go on the holiday, I remember your initial threads. You’ve done everything you can but you need to put your DD first, he can go and stay with his family (he has a brother doesn’t he if I remember correctly) it’s time for them to help.

pilates · Yesterday 21:30

Go for it - you and daughter deserve it!

Schnapper · Yesterday 21:31

I think you should go, and I would encourage you to talk about this with your husband's MH care team if you haven't already. They may be able to help him process it.

I would see it that you are stepping up and doing the parenting DD needs for both of you, while he can't. It doesn't feel like that to him right now, but it may do one day when he has more insight into his illness.

Unusualsuspects · Yesterday 21:32

Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 20:48

Sorry but this is a load of nonsense.

I haven't commented on the state of OP's marriage at all. I have several times said how much I sympathise with her situation.

I have not tried to enforce my view - I understand that I differ from most pp in my view. I have merely answered pp who have quoted me and disagreed with me.

I assume you think I am being spiteful
because I have said I didn't think OP should go on this holiday? OP asked for opinions and I gave an opinion. I took her at her word and have given an honest opinion - not out of spite but because I thought that was the idea of the thread. You obviously assume everyone should have the same opinion. Life doesnt often work like that.

You said

It doesn't sound a very loving marriage if you would go off on holiday and leave them to it.

You have taken the need for respite, as an indication of their, her, lack of love. Have a think how that might feel, YOU measuring her love and finding even that is lacking. We are talking about a very tough time in all their lives with many competing factors. You chose to illustrate perceived shortcomings.

You didn’t need to add that sentence, it was a verbal kick as you metaphorically left the room. You knew it was negative, but you added anyway.

I could go further in exploring why the manner of the OP’s going ‘leave them to it’ adds a tone or dismissiveness to the end of the line.

If you’re going to argue your case for great more total support, you should leave the emotive language out of it. You certainly should be adding kicker lines at the end.