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AIBU to take our daughter on holiday while DH is unwell and doesnt want me to?

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Atchooch · Yesterday 18:41

This is possibly my longest ever post. I dont know how to shorten it.

DH, DD (15) and me were planning to spend the summer travelling around Europe and had started booking things.

Then DH got very unwell. He has spent most of the last few months in hospital with poor mental health. It became clear he wasn't able to go on the holiday and he expected me to cancel it.

I have refused for the following reasons:
DH's illness has hit DD really hard.
She was really, really excited about the holiday. It's the first time she's been properly excited about something in a long time. She hasn't been abroad since she was 3. She has also had a really tough year.
I think if I cancel because of DH it will really damage their relationship. Maybe that's me being dranatic.
Both DD and I need a break if I'm honest. DH has obviously dominated everything since he became ill and that's fine because it's how it needs to be. However I think it's going to be the case for a long time (possibly forever) so I think we need to minimise the impact where we can.
For the above reason I also think I need to set expectations. We cancelled a few things when he became ill and I dont want that to become the norm as harsh as that sounds. I feel like his illness can't control mine and DDs lives.
I need this. I need to prove to myself that I'll be ok. When he first went into hospital I realised how reliant I was on him and thought I wouldn't cope. That isn't healthy. I meed to prove to myself, and DD (and DH tbh) that I can do things.
DD needs to see that she doesn't need to center her world around what other people want and that she shouldn't let them stop her doing what she wants. It's really important she sees that.
I don't know when DH will be well enough to go a long weekend in the UK again, let alone anything bigger.
Financially, I expect we'll have to rely on my wage going forward so things are going to be very different and I dont know if we can afford it again.
So there is the genuine risk that it's now or never.
It just seems like the right thing to do.

As a compromise the holiday has been shortened to 10 days including travel and we will be sticking to the tourist areas instead of going off to random places like we'd planned.

I do feel awful and guilty and like I'm a bad wife for not putting him first. I do feel like I'm purposely doing sonething that I know will cause him pain. I feel like I'm letting him down and I know I will find the holiday stressful and challenging and it's really scary. Of course I'll spend most of the holiday worrying about him and feeling guilty and worrying about sonething going wrong. So then that makes me wonder why I'm doing it at all.

DH is really angry and upset over it. His anxiety is spiralling. He is feeling like I'm not listening and don't care about the impact it is having on him. He is also resentful because he will need to stay with his family while DD and me are away because he isn't well enough to be by himself.

Although, they have been very little help over the last few months so I dont know what I'll do if they wont let him stay.

They will judge me more than they already do.

My family will judge me. But my parents wouldn't even go on a daytrip alone. It meant that we missed out on things because my mum wouldn't do things if my dad wasnt able to go with her. I dont want that for my DD.

So anyway, I will be taking DD on the holiday and I'll deal with the fallout. But I was just wondering what other people would do? Would you disregard your DH and go on holiday or would you put or DH first? Please be kind. It's really upsetting and whatever I do is wrong.

OP posts:
Springtimeinsunshine · Yesterday 19:28

Go. You will never get this time with DD again.

Maray1967 · Yesterday 19:30

AbzMoz · Yesterday 18:46

DH sounds in crisis. You know the extent of this, but from what you’ve written it sounds very clear.

I do not think you can go from support to 10 days away as a compromise from a full summer away, and it’s wildly unfair to expect his family to step in for that duration.
I would strongly agree you need respite but I think it would be far kinder and more manageable to do a say three day trip and build up from there. have you engaged any MH charities re respite care or got a plan in place?

Edited

Not a chance. DD deserves a decent holiday. DH is a grown adult. His illness should not dictate how the rest of his family live their lives. My DM was terminally ill when she insisted DB go ahead with his gap year. What she wasn’t was selfish.

frecklejuice · Yesterday 19:32

Op I remember your other posts and really think you should go, you and your daughter need this time away.

jeaux90 · Yesterday 19:33

Go OP. You are her mother. Not his.

RobinStrike · Yesterday 19:33

OP I remember your previous thread and how much you have cared for your DH and DD. You need to do this for both your daughter and for you. I’m assuming your DH is now completely out of hospital rather than the intermittent spells when you last wrote. This is very much a long term way of life for you and DD and you really should go. Good luck.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 19:36

Definitely go OP, time with your DD is precious

Woodfiresareamazing2 · Yesterday 19:36

Hi @Atchooch

I have read all of your previous threads, and I have been in awe of your strength. And of your love and care for your DH and your DD.

I know you have agonised over this trip, and how excited your DD is to go.

I really think you should go, for your own MH, but especially for your DD's.

💐💐💐

OneHardyRobin · Yesterday 19:37

I read your last threads too. You can’t let your DH’s illness rule everything, it doesnt just affect him, you have to look after you and DD through this too.

His family need to step up instead of criticising and pushing it all on you to manage. Regardless of what they think of you, they need to help you help your DD.

I’m so sorry that things don’t seem to be any better for you, it sounds like the hospital have done the bare minimum and turfed him home for you to deal with.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 19:38

Just to add ..have a plan about DH and contact so the precious days can't be ruined.

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 19:39

Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 19:20

Sorry OP but if your DH was hospitalised with his mental health for months he must indeed have been very ill.

To me if you go on this holiday it is probably going to set his recovery back significantly. I accept you and your DD need a holiday but I don't think now is the right time. I think postponing it until your DH is in a better place would give a much better long term outcome for all of you.

And tbh if you care about him I don't see how you could enjoy your holiday knowing the possible consequences to his health.

I don't think it's a question of him trying to control you by stopping you going. It's obvious his mental health problems are very real. If he had a serious physical medical condition I wonder if so many pp woukd be telling upu to go off and leave him.

I could not disagree with you more. The OP’s daughter is 15 and will likely be taking her GCSEs next year, so holidays become more tricky to avoid clashing with revision. If the OP’s husband has been discharged from hospital on the say-so of an AMHP after being sectioned, then he must be significantly improved. Mental health disorders like psychosis (I’m not saying this is what the OP’s DH was being treated for) can be soul-destroying for loved ones. My elderly mother suffers with psychotic delusions, my brother was sectioned twice, for six months in total, with obsessive compulsive thoughts after trying to kill himself on railway lines, plus my teen has personality disorder and self-harms, seriously and regularly. Sometimes, you need to cling to the joy in life to avoid being taken down as well. OP, please, I know you are wavering, but for the sake of your teen, please go on this holiday. I understand that your husband is mentally unwell but there are services he can contact ( local Crisis team) and you say his family are at hand. Mental illnesses can make people very selfish to the extent that they can only see their own needs and wishes. Your DD is getting to the age where she will probably not want to go on holiday with you any more. You are not being selfish and your needs matter too.

xino · Yesterday 19:40

I read your other threads. Please go on the holiday. Your daughter must come first this time.

chocoluv · Yesterday 19:41

It’s 10 days out of your entire lives.

I wouldn’t think twice about going but that’s why I’m not married because I would never martyr my happiness or my DCs happiness for anyone else.

I can’t stand when couples are so co-dependent on each other that they can’t do anything without the other.

If he was dying, then my opinion would be different but this is a long term illness and you cannot put your lives on hold.

I have always told my DC that if anything happens to me, if I’m in a coma, get dementia, become paralysed etc stick me in a home and live your life because my DC living their lives are what makes me happy. I’d hate to think that they were wasting their lives out of guilt.

Your DH is being incredibly selfish and I would assume that’s part of his illness.
When he hopefully becomes better, he’ll be really glad that you and DD went.

Itsallthebsame · Yesterday 19:41

I too remember you're previous posts you wonderful, supportive lady.
Go for yourself and your daughter. You are your husbands wife, not his mother. He's very lucky you have stood by him. You still need to be you and not just a carer. Have fun.

Doubledutchbuss · Yesterday 19:42

I remember your posts OP from when he became ill.

for the love of god - please please go! You both deserve this

WhyCantThingsJustBeEasy · Yesterday 19:44

RoseField1 · Yesterday 18:44

Are you the poster who's DH was sectioned and DD is autistic?
Mental illness is awful for the sufferer and the family. It's not ok to put your lives on hold. You need to prioritise your DD.

I was just about to ask this. I lost that thread, and often wonder how thing went.

Namechangeforthisdilemma1 · Yesterday 19:44

Please go, I remember your other posts and I said the same then.

be firm with his family, you and your DD need this break to allow you to continue supporting your DH.

Thenose · Yesterday 19:45

When we arrived at the airport for our family holiday a couple of years ago, our youngest DS (who has severe additional needs) wouldn't get out of the car. It didn't even occur to us that we'd cancel the holiday for his two siblings. I took them away for three weeks on my own and DH took DS home.

GO ON YOUR HOLIDAY! You have nothing to feel guilty about. Misery should never be allowed to spread further than necessary. Your husband should be happy you're able to provide this for your daughter while he can't. Hopefully, once he's doing better, he'll take that point of view.

thestudio · Yesterday 19:46

Ask him to explain why his mental health is more important than his DD's.

youalright · Yesterday 19:46

Absolutely go and turn your phone off why your away to save the daily manipulative messages you will likely get

WhosGotTheKeysToMyBimma · Yesterday 19:47

No matter what, go on the holiday.

You need the break and your DD needs to feel like she is the family priority.

You've done more than anyone should be expected to, keeping the show on the road, while your DH is ill.

It's more important than ever to take what time you can to regroup and have fun while you can.

Beachdrift · Yesterday 19:48

Absolutely go. Enjoy yourselves. Important for you both to have time that is about you.

WutheringTights · Yesterday 19:53

Unusualsuspects · Yesterday 19:12

You are going on holiday, you are not leaving him. This needs to be kept in perspective. No one needs to sacrifice their entire life, and the life of their child to another persons mental illness. Please please go. It’s so important that he is not the only cosmic force around which your whole lives revolve. He is poorly, yes, but staying will not fix him, but it will damage you and your daughter. Please, please go.

This post nails it.

Esmeraldathe3rd · Yesterday 19:55

Absolutely 100% go. I'm pretty sure I know you're precious thread and your H really put your daughter through some shit. Yes, he was, is ill. But part of recovery is accepting the impact it had on other people. It doesn't sound like he's doing that yet. And she absolutely deserves a holiday and taking that away would be furthering the impact of his illness on her.

You have to accept he doesn't have capacity to actually make a decision about big things like this. And part of his illness was intense self centeredness so thinking his daughter shouldn't get a holiday is very in character for his illness. So honestly, don't take it personally.

So what if people judge you. They haven't been through what you have.

SemperIdem · Yesterday 19:55

If you are the poster that I (and others) think you are - I cannot stress enough how much I think you and your dd should go on this holiday.

After such a horrendously difficult time, you deserve this time.

reelcat · Yesterday 19:55

Please, please, please go. You both need this so much. Your husband is ill and isn't thinking in you or your daughter's best interests at the moment. You need to do this for you and your daughter 💐

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