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AIBU to take our daughter on holiday while DH is unwell and doesnt want me to?

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Atchooch · 18/06/2026 18:41

This is possibly my longest ever post. I dont know how to shorten it.

DH, DD (15) and me were planning to spend the summer travelling around Europe and had started booking things.

Then DH got very unwell. He has spent most of the last few months in hospital with poor mental health. It became clear he wasn't able to go on the holiday and he expected me to cancel it.

I have refused for the following reasons:
DH's illness has hit DD really hard.
She was really, really excited about the holiday. It's the first time she's been properly excited about something in a long time. She hasn't been abroad since she was 3. She has also had a really tough year.
I think if I cancel because of DH it will really damage their relationship. Maybe that's me being dranatic.
Both DD and I need a break if I'm honest. DH has obviously dominated everything since he became ill and that's fine because it's how it needs to be. However I think it's going to be the case for a long time (possibly forever) so I think we need to minimise the impact where we can.
For the above reason I also think I need to set expectations. We cancelled a few things when he became ill and I dont want that to become the norm as harsh as that sounds. I feel like his illness can't control mine and DDs lives.
I need this. I need to prove to myself that I'll be ok. When he first went into hospital I realised how reliant I was on him and thought I wouldn't cope. That isn't healthy. I meed to prove to myself, and DD (and DH tbh) that I can do things.
DD needs to see that she doesn't need to center her world around what other people want and that she shouldn't let them stop her doing what she wants. It's really important she sees that.
I don't know when DH will be well enough to go a long weekend in the UK again, let alone anything bigger.
Financially, I expect we'll have to rely on my wage going forward so things are going to be very different and I dont know if we can afford it again.
So there is the genuine risk that it's now or never.
It just seems like the right thing to do.

As a compromise the holiday has been shortened to 10 days including travel and we will be sticking to the tourist areas instead of going off to random places like we'd planned.

I do feel awful and guilty and like I'm a bad wife for not putting him first. I do feel like I'm purposely doing sonething that I know will cause him pain. I feel like I'm letting him down and I know I will find the holiday stressful and challenging and it's really scary. Of course I'll spend most of the holiday worrying about him and feeling guilty and worrying about sonething going wrong. So then that makes me wonder why I'm doing it at all.

DH is really angry and upset over it. His anxiety is spiralling. He is feeling like I'm not listening and don't care about the impact it is having on him. He is also resentful because he will need to stay with his family while DD and me are away because he isn't well enough to be by himself.

Although, they have been very little help over the last few months so I dont know what I'll do if they wont let him stay.

They will judge me more than they already do.

My family will judge me. But my parents wouldn't even go on a daytrip alone. It meant that we missed out on things because my mum wouldn't do things if my dad wasnt able to go with her. I dont want that for my DD.

So anyway, I will be taking DD on the holiday and I'll deal with the fallout. But I was just wondering what other people would do? Would you disregard your DH and go on holiday or would you put or DH first? Please be kind. It's really upsetting and whatever I do is wrong.

OP posts:
NewDogOwner · 20/06/2026 00:05

He is not well so you can't organise your life by his feelings. You and your daughter need a break, Tell him this and when he is well, if he is a good man, he will understand. If he is not, you need to put your own needs first. Tell him to put his daughter first.

Swimshady2 · 20/06/2026 00:38

Darkmodelarry · 19/06/2026 06:40

Did he ever get on a section 3? I imagine he would have if had over 28 days in hospital.

if so, you have a massive entitlement to section 117 aftercare - which is not means tested and is free. That could be carers coming in or whatever it is to keep him well and out of hospital.

they often don’t mention this as it is not time limited - and thus expensive if a high needs package.

get onto CMHT and SS and ask for full assessment for s117 aftercare . (Look up on ‘MIND’ website what it is as they explain it well)

also please get onto that plane with your daughter. You both need a break - there are other family and services available. You are not abandoning him - you are taking a well earned break.

yes he probably would prefer it to be you looking after him 24/7- but you have to think of everyone’s needs - not just his.

sometimes you have to step back to allow others to step forwards - services love the spouse to do everything as much cheaper on their budgets - but what happens when you are totally burnt out? You need a team around him and that can include family , friends , charities and services.

take care - it’s so incredibly hard but you need this break.

@Atchooch This is a very informative post in case you missed it.

I remember your previous thread, and I'm sorry that you're still struggling with this. Go and enjoy the holiday. Good luck. 💐

Miaminmoo · 20/06/2026 01:05

I’m so sorry you are going through this. I’ve had some experience with a family member who had MH issues and sadly it seems to make the person suffering very self obsessed and that is so hard to deal with. I think you are doing the right thing by not letting this define your life at this stage. It would seem that whether you go or not it isn’t going to massively change the situation. It might help you be less resentful though and that will help your DH in the long run. Support for MH in the UK is very poor and this just compounds the situation. You likely can’t really help your DH but you can definitely do the right thing by your daughter.

Miaminmoo · 20/06/2026 01:07

Workingonweekendssuck · 19/06/2026 21:34

100% this

He can’t - in my experience people in his situation are only capable of thinking of themselves.

MyLoyalAmberHelper · 20/06/2026 02:50

Go 100%. I was in a similar situation many years ago do speaking from experience. Have a great time and don't feel guilty.

OutAndAbouting · 20/06/2026 02:57

Atchooch · 19/06/2026 09:18

Addiction is a really good analogy actually.

Even if he does get better, it will always be there hovering in the background. If he gets a bit overly excited one day - is this just him being excited or is it mania kicking in? If he has a rubbish day and is in a bit of a low mood - is he going to start hiding pills again?

It will always be there now.

I followed your previous threads (plural if I remember) too. I think I tried to help from time to time.

I think that I may be within the minority here, but will say that I have personal experience here. I find the idea of you going away on a holiday that he was going to go on and now cannot really distressing. Obviously, if he is still in hospital (and if he's sectioned again they're not going to be chucking hi out) then there is nothing that can be done and it sounds unlikely that he will be able to go with you, although you haven't told us when the holiday is.

Something has occurred to me, and forgive me if you think this a little barmy. Can you find a way of involving him in the trip? Send him a daily video of you both with a bit of a dialogue, with some shots of the views? Making him a part of it could help to alleviate his sadness, and may help to make it a bit of fun for your daughter. Perhaps could also be a first stepping stone to healing your daughter's and his relationship.

RudePhthaloDalmadoodle · 20/06/2026 03:16

I could sympathise with his being upset (at least initially) if you were going on the planned-together trip without him, but it sounds like you've really arranged a completely different trip and it's already a compromise between being on hand all the time to support and care for him versus keeping yourself healthy and in reasonably good spirits and avoiding letting DD down.

Is there any way that someone could come and stay with him if he needs overnight care, even a professional, rather than his going elsewhere? Definitely check thoroughly to make sure you've identified any and all aftercare or outpatient support he may be entitled to.

Laurmolonlabe · 20/06/2026 04:37

You and DD can't live purely for your DH.
He can't expect life to stop because he feels anxious, if you stop life goes on without you, that is the bottom line.
Your DH has already changed your lives profoundly, and will continue to do so- that ia more than enough consession.

SuffolkUnicorn · 20/06/2026 06:05

Pickledonions12 · 18/06/2026 18:48

Does his illness cause him to be very selfish or is he always very selfish?

This

sassyclassyandsmartassy · 20/06/2026 08:16

Go OP. As someone who has witnessed how another family members mental health affects other family members (and is certainly expected to), go. You must, must, must ensure you do all that you have said in your opening post and draw very firm boundary lines form the beginning, especially if it’s anxiety and depression. If you don’t the illness will drag you down with it. You have exactly the right attitude.

Dancingintherain09 · 20/06/2026 08:25

Atchooch · 19/06/2026 10:44

I have and I am waiting to hear back from them. She never replies straight away.

Your other option is to contact the social care and tell them he WILL be alone and They need to sort a care pkan or a hospital space . As you have your child to think of and as hard as this seems they come first, not DH .

She is your dependant your husband is your partner. And as much as you love him you need to find ways to protect your own mental health.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 20/06/2026 09:28

You need to go. Ten days isn’t long and your DD deserves some time away from the situation.
You also need to live your own life and not have it totally defined by his illness
Comparisons with post natal illness are not very helpful (someone has posted above). Post natal illness gets better. It sounds like your DH has a condition that is never going to go away. He might have good times and bad times but it will always be there. Please prioritise your own well-being and that of your DD.

Seabreeze18 · 20/06/2026 09:31

You absolutely must go! Mental health can destroy everyone’s life but u and your daughter need respite and to find yourself again so u can better equip yourself to be there for him when you get back! Thinking of you!

PetulaGordeno · 20/06/2026 09:48

I had a breakdown in my late 30’s and it was horrendous. I was suicidal and couldn’t even speak at times.
I was staying with my parents and they were worn out.
They’d also had a holiday they really deserved and I’m really ashamed now that I had meltdowns and begged them not to go.
They’d also were lovely lovely people. I had a support worker I saw once a week and he encouraged them to go.
I am not going to sugar coat it, it was horrible for me. A lot of it is a blur. I had everything I needed physically.
But do you know what? We all survived. And they needed that holiday.
I do have a very distinct memory though - thinking this is as bad as it gets, if my parents were not here, this would be my life and I’d have to get on with it.
And I turned a bit of a corner. And I was really, really poorly two decades later I have never forgotten it even if I didn’t recall every detail.
There could be another time when you really can’t be there - what if you needed an emergency surgery? And were in hospital for a few weeks? Ultimately, he will be ill or he will get a bit better whether you are there are not.
I am not being heartless as I’ve been the poorly person.

FlyingUnicornWings · 20/06/2026 10:54

Atchooch · 18/06/2026 22:09

Thank you for all your constructive comments and ongoing support. I will read through them all.

I hoped I'd been vague enough not to link my posts but obviously not!

He was sectioned for 6 weeks for mania. He was discharged although he still wasn't well. Once discharged he crashed and within a few weeks was suicidal. When it became clear it was more than just talking about it the community support did finally kick in and helped him go back into hospital voluntarily. However within a few days they had to use a section 5(4) because he was at immediate risk. So now he is under section 2 for a second time. He has been in a few weeks now and is exactly the same as when he went in. I would have to refuse to have him home at the moment.

That is another reason I'm struggling. If I knew he would still be in hospital when we go away, it would take a lot of stress off me and I wouldn't feel so bad. But I dont know what will be going on. I'm scared that the hospital will rush the discharge while he has somewhere to go.

Our DD did see the mania. When he came home he was very conscious of her and what she saw so hid in our room most of the time. She knew he wasn't well and at times was upset by it. However, I really don't think she knew about the suicidal thoughts. I don't see how she could have. I hope she doesn't.

Edited

I remember your original posts.

This is an awful situation to be in all round. I’m so sorry your husband crashed and ended up back in hospital. I can understand why you are worried about going away.

I feel like you need something for you and your daughter though. You must be running on full adrenaline and fear right now.

I don’t know why your family will not be happy about you going? Are they fearful of looking after your DH when he is discharged?

If I were you, I’d call the ward and ask to sit down and chat with your husbands named nurse, and whoever in the family he will be staying with when you are away. There is a lot of fear in the unknown, and that could be driving their upset about you going.

It could simply be a case of them knowing what support they have from the home treatment or community teams looking after your husband on discharge, what to do in an emergency etc etc.

Having said that, will you and your daughter be able to switch off and enjoy yourselves? If it will be more stressful then it’s counterproductive imo. You might be better booking something in the UK, just to get away and re-charge.

KrazyKatty · 20/06/2026 11:11

Sunandsunshine · 18/06/2026 20:09

This is the typical MN view that holidays are some sort of sacred right that everyone has an entitlement to.

It may come as a shock to you that many many people can't go on holidays for lots of different reasons.
And people actually manage to survive without holidays.

I find it very strange and totally lacking in any human compassion that you think a teenage girl's perceived right to a foreign holiday trumps the welfare of her father who is suffering from a serious illness.

Conversely I find it bizarre that you think his illness trumps the happiness of his wife and child.

My DH has had several serious illnesses including cancer, but we both still prioritise our child’s best interests where we can. Luckily, he agrees.

I’ve also got a friend whose husband has long term mental health issues. She regularly stays with her family for a break. However, in her shoes, I’d get divorced. You only have one life and I wouldn’t waste it caring for another adult when there’s other options available. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Bluestar1971 · 20/06/2026 11:20

You need to go. If you are basically going to be dh's carer, you and dd will need breaks starting with this one

LemonadeQueen · 20/06/2026 11:20

Most of us are aware of all your previous posts OP. you and your daughter deserve this break. Not at least to refuel as im sure your running on fumes currently!

Lubilu02 · 20/06/2026 12:18

It would be different if you were just going alone and leaving him with some form of responsibility, but your are not.

You cannot live your life at the mercy of somebody else's feelings, especially when it is something that will bring joy to their child too.

There is no valid reason why you should not go, the reasons you've listed are valid and reasonable.

Please go and have a nice time, they will be OK for a 10 short days with his family around.

Itsallthebsame · 20/06/2026 12:36

SodOffNigelYouSleazebag · 19/06/2026 23:32

If your husband had any decency, he would want you to go away and have a lovely break with your daughter.

You may not have read the post but the OP said if her husband were his normal self he would want them to go away. Mental illness is horrible. OP still needs to be a woman and a mum, not just a carer.

Marycontrarygarden · 20/06/2026 12:46

One million percent go. You sound like a great Mum. You are a person too. He is not himself it sounds like because that is an unbelievably selfish thing to ask you to do.

HowMuchMoreIsThere · 20/06/2026 13:00

KrazyKatty · 20/06/2026 11:11

Conversely I find it bizarre that you think his illness trumps the happiness of his wife and child.

My DH has had several serious illnesses including cancer, but we both still prioritise our child’s best interests where we can. Luckily, he agrees.

I’ve also got a friend whose husband has long term mental health issues. She regularly stays with her family for a break. However, in her shoes, I’d get divorced. You only have one life and I wouldn’t waste it caring for another adult when there’s other options available. 🤷🏻‍♀️

You only have one life and I wouldn’t waste it caring for another adult when there’s other options available. 🤷🏻‍♀️

So many posts from women who see their “D”H’s as essentially disposable if the going gets tough. It’s so sad and I’m so glad my marriage means more to me than this.

nb I am not suggesting OP feels like this, at all. She has clearly said her marriage is not in question and is just having to make a very difficult decision about one short holiday.

SweatySpider321 · 20/06/2026 13:11

Everyone in a family has to be prioritised at different times. Your husband has been number one for quite a while now, it’s not sustainable and not fair on your daughter. She’s allowed to go on holiday and have a nice summer. Plus you are allowed to take a bit of time out. From memory l think this has been going on for quite a while now and if he is in so much crisis then he should be in hospital

Gloriia · 20/06/2026 13:32

Any word from family op yet if they'll provide back up whilst you go. When is the trip?

ForSassyKhakiWasp · 20/06/2026 13:39

Definitely go!