AIBU - Refusing to hand over documentation?

[FunnyBeaker]

OP has approached me asking to hand over our child’s passport to allow them to use it for cinema trips, as they haven’t got any other form of ID. There is a CO in place which states it’s to be used for holiday purposes only by each parent, nothing of the requested nature. The OP has previously been provided with several copies of multiple passport details, but looses them each time, now they are requesting these yet again as they can’t find them and suddenly want to apply for a driving licence, despite being handed the last copy by a barrister and signing to say they’ve received them! What would you do in this situation? We are 6 weeks out from summer and don’t feel it’s appropriate a child walking round with a passport, which could get lost and I’d be the one left to pay out for it again or having to change any holiday plans. What would you do in this situation?

@FunnyBeaker Download the Yoti app. You can scan the passport and then it acts as age verification for cinemas etc

He won't suffer when it's easy to apply for a provisional licence instead.

16?!

Surely they are in charge of their own passport at that age. We used to carry ours around to see 12s at the cinema. What's wrong with your 16yo to not be allowed their own passport?

Take a picture of it and send it to him. He can show it to people on his phone ...my own children do that with their passport pictures to use as proof of age for things.

Mine were in charge of them at that age but weren't routinely carrying them around for ID - they were locked up in their own bedrooms with other important documentation.

Provisional lcience would bea easier to carry round and cheaper to replace - with no implications for any booked hoildays.

But at 16 I think other parent should be reminding teen they may need to bring ID and then expecting them to do it, A photo copy in their bag may well be all they need.

Actually I think PP right they tend to have picture of the documents on their phones these days.

The OP has previously been provided with several copies of multiple passport details, but looses them each time, now they are requesting these yet again as they can’t find them and suddenly want to apply for a driving licence

Applying for driving license - DD2 had to set up government log in - it wanted various things like pictures of the passport front and info pages to set up did it via an app. You may be apply to do it seperately not sure as it came up as part of the applciation process.

You can apply via postal forms but then you may need to either send passport off to them or get a verified copy at post office - not sure as we didn't go that route as it was another tenner.

Provisional driving lcience last 10 years - so it worth getting as ID IMO.

Parent of teens here and none of them have ever used their passports to get into the cinema. There are other forms of ID.

I have a teen child and he used to carry a photo of his passport on his phone in case he was stopped for age check at the cinema. To ask for the passport to be provided for this reason is utterly ridiculous!!! Photo will suffice. Or as others have said, driving permit is definitely an option.

I also have a teen stepson who carries his passport literally everywhere - just turned 18 - wants to ensure he can buy alcohol in venues he is attending. I looked at his passport recently and I am very VERY unsure that it will pass airport checks in the state it is in. So it’s not just loss but damage you have to consider.

Are you sure that other parent isn’t planning on just taking child away on holiday? I think I’d be wary of this at this point.

My ex has never held our kids passports, always me. And he is only ever passed them when he is taking them on holiday, returning them back with children after holiday. I even supply him a signed letter with a photocopy of my passport on there to say I agree to him taking them out of the country, just in case - but that’s a different thing altogether!!

Can't you apply for a provisional license for him. Then you wouldn't need to had the passport over to the other parent and your child can then use the license for identity purposes. I don't know why he would need ID to go to the cinema

What do your teens use? Mine don’t have any else they could use.

Have you actually read the thread? Which is full of suggestions?

They don't go to watch films at the cinema that they aren't old enough for and they've never been challenged. My 14 year old and his mates mostly go to animations or 12A action films.

By my older two had driving licences from age 17 and up. But there's info on cinema websites about what else they accept e.g. PASS accredited ID and uploaded ID on the YOTI website.

My 18 yo has had a photo of his passport on his phone for a while following a Scout trip abroad and he used that to get in a pub the other day. He was also wearing a suit and was accompanied by work colleagues in their 30s and 40s so it wasn't a group of young lads getting stopped.

When I was a teenager, if we got IDed and didn't have it we'd just watch another film or try another cinema.

Solution is you help your dc apply for a drivers licence, they can from 15&9 months.

You have a court order. This is not a listed time for the passport to be handed over. Ds shouldn't need ID to go see a 12 rated movie, that's BS.

Get him a provisional licence and keep hold of the passport.

Thank you for taking time to reply. I appreciate it. My 15 year old has no other Id and gets asked every time for 15 certificate films. I’ve never heard of Yoti. I will look into it.

Who organised/paid for/ sorted out the passports in the first place?

I bet you $1000 it wasn't him

Get them to do yoti ageverification on their phone. Simples.

Tell the other parent to apply for one of those citizen Id cards instead! They don’t need it for the cinema! What are they up to is what I’d want to know!!! NOT normal
asking for child’s passport so they can go into the cinema! Never been asked for id for my kids in cinema no matter what age they are!!