If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties

[Yellownotblue]

How do you feel about the fact that your support is being whipped up by Russia, in concerted attacks, for the specific purpose of sowing division and political instability in Britain? Is this giving you any pause for thought? Do you think you will go back to supporting traditional parties?

Do you think the party you support has a strong platform to defend the country against clear and present danger from very powerful nations which are taking active measures to harm us? Or put another way, are you prepared to entertain the very real possibility that the party you support is propped up by foreign influence and money that are actually using you as pawns in a political game that will destroy all of us, including yourself?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

Do you believe that Labour and the conservatives aren't being propped up by foreign money?

I don’t believe a word the BBC says anymore.

Exactly - & with the ever increasing censorship, eventually the government controlled media will be all we are left with. That is hugely concerning.

I also have huge concerns about a government which won't spend on our own country's defense (armed forces) - but have miraculously found £4.5 billion from somewhere for......cycle paths!

I haven't had BBC for years because I don't believe them either

But that's not the point here. They are reporting on a court case.

Everyone has reported on the conclusion of this court case now so you can find the information on whichever website you choose.

Those lads have been found guilty and I haven't read the court report but it is obvious, as it was from the beginning, that they were acting on the behalf of someone else

@ColdAsAWitches I think the thing with parties that have been established for a very very long time is that are probably less likely to be infiltrated by foreign interference.

Who do you support @Yellownotblue ?
are you an anti-semetic, nazi? Supporter of the Green Party and Polanski who has sympathised with violent attackers of a police officer?

Ultra left, don't vote so no need for you to worry.

Liberal democracy is not broken, it functions just as it should as a liberal democracy.....power to those whose interests it upholds whilst giving those whose interests it manages an illusion of democracy.

The Green party, or indeed any mainstream party is just a slight variation on business as usual.

But if interference from foreign powers is your concern over and above the supranational powers of corporations and a wealthy elite, then you need look no further than Israel.

Do you want to offer any evidence to back this up, or is it just a conspiracy theory?

If you support the Labour Party, how does it make you feel that the Labour Prime Minister is the most divisive leader we have ever had is actively smearing and vilifying whole swathes of the country?

Not to mention presiding over the dismantling of our rights to a trial by jury, removal of our freedom of speech and indoctrinating our children? Refusing to abide by the law and allowing two tier justice. Etc etc. There is obviously more but it’s late.

What sources do you believe as more credible?

If you read the thread title I think it makes it quite clear

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What exactly is your concern here - is it that you don’t believe that healthier, more active lifestyles would free up 1.7million GP appointments a year and make us all wealthier (as well as healthier), or that your cost-benefit analysis shows that the money would be better invested in defence? If so on what grounds? Or do you think the government should only be pursuing defence to the exclusion of everything else?

Most divisive leader ever? Such hyperbole.

Thatcher
Johnson

Are easily more divisive

I guess that Truss united the country the most. Everyone hated her.

Ooh
Your post is about a scary foreign nation influencing our voting intentions with the grand conclusion being of we carry on, this scary foreign nation will take over the UK.

However you think that cycle paths should be prioritised over defence.

OK then.

If someone has been charged with rape is it fairer that he and the alleged victim wait 5 years to have the case heard by a jury, or would a far quicker procedure with it being heard by a judge only be better? Surely it’s better all around that justice is sped up? I’d far rather a judge heard my case if I’d been accused of something than it being decided by someone who was deciding based on whether they liked my shoes etc (something that actually happened when I did jury service).

I guess that Truss united the country the most. Everyone hated her.

I'm fairly sure that the Labour Party quote liked her as she was one of the reasons that they got in.

Honestly, I think we're witnessing the death of democracy. There is foreign interference on a scale that we've never seen before, and yet people simply won't acknowledge the extent to which they are being manipulated. The facts don't seem to matter any more, either, as some of the posts on this thread demonstrate - anything that doesn't support someone's particular world view is merely dismissed as fake news.

I really don't see how we can come back from this as a society.

I haven’t said what my views are, you are drawing inferences out of nothing. I actually don’t have strong views on the policy, seeing as we are a car free household in an area that has very good walkability as well as public transport links.

The investment that was announced is not just for cycle paths. Your soundbite sounds suspiciously like a Daily Mail headline.

Going back to my original post, do you believe the investment should be scrapped because of more pressing defence needs? And do you think Reform/Restore/Greens are more likely to fund better defence, knowing that they directly benefit from foreign interference?

Reform UK's primary funder, who gave a £5m "personal gift" to Farage, makes his money from a crypotcurrency platform that Russia uses to circumvent sanctions. Strikes me a borderline treasonous.

Apparently, Reform UK supporters are fine with that, so they won't care about this either.

As I understand it, rape trials will still be conducted by a jury.
Based on recent sentencing by judges, I wouldn't trust a judge (especially a male judge) on a rape case anyway.

Absolutely!

or would a far quicker procedure with it being heard by a judge only be better?

Do you mean like the judge that let the 3 rapists off with a tap on the wrist?

Gosh. Looks like some Mnetters don't want us talking about Russian interference in the UK.😬

@hay5689 do you think the BBC are lying about this?

Indeed, and the replies to OP seem to reflect this.