If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties

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How do you feel about the fact that your support is being whipped up by Russia, in concerted attacks, for the specific purpose of sowing division and political instability in Britain? Is this giving you any pause for thought? Do you think you will go back to supporting traditional parties?

Do you think the party you support has a strong platform to defend the country against clear and present danger from very powerful nations which are taking active measures to harm us? Or put another way, are you prepared to entertain the very real possibility that the party you support is propped up by foreign influence and money that are actually using you as pawns in a political game that will destroy all of us, including yourself?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

Yes, Farage would love to disenfranchise non-Reform supporting Muslims. Luckily his tentative starting bid in G&D failed.😊

Can you link to that please? I only saw Yusufs post last night so they must have made a response this morning? He clearly had a genuine concern.

In any case, I’m glad that whoever told him that Serco would not enact policies or instructions by a Reform government was lying and that doesn’t reflect the true position of the company. I found it quite shocking that some people are so determined to subvert due process that they would claim such a thing.

No, you didn't hit a nerve at all. But thank you for your concern.

Yes, I made an assumption about your post, based on your posting history and that of the poster that you were addressing.

You still haven't told me what you think was ironic. Should I assume that your earlier post was just a stock response that you wheeled out because you couldn't think of anything better to say?

Yeah, so extreme.

Assault of retail worker offence created in Crime and Policing Act 2026

Child Criminal Exploitation now an offence in the Crime and Policing Act 2026

The Children's Wellbeing and Schools Act 2026, legally limiting schools to a maximum of three branded items (including PE kit)

The Tobacco and Vapes bill preventing anybody born after 1st January 2009 from ever being allowed to purchase cigarettes and other tobacco products

All the extreme.

The BBC is not the only nedia reporting on this.

Check out the Financial Times if you care enough.

You seem very confused. It seems that a number of Muslims in G & D are already disenfranchised by some in the Muslim community and you are comfortable in accepting the denials of the likely perpetrators.

Did you also see the upset of some who were lied to about the policies of the Green Party? They oppose the extreme LGBTQ stance and it was deliberately omitted in their areas.

No, the report that I read regarding Serco's response was published yesterday.

Perhaps you will take this as a lesson next time not to blindly trust what you read on Facebook. And certainly not to spread information from an unreliable source without doing some basic fact checking first?

I see that there was a debate in Westminster Hall back in February this year - Russian Influence on UK Politics and Democracy.

In his introduction, the Labour MP who started the debate makes a reference to the "former" KGB agent and his son - he didn't mention though that it was Lord Mandelson who allowed the former KGB agent to purchase one of our most established newspapers, at the very heart of London, or that Andy Burnham, the then culture secretary thought there was nothing to worry about either.

They don't care.

They are not interested in rigorous investigative journalism, regardless of the source. They prefer their "alternative facts" from Facebook.

Enjoy your day.

I know.

Sovereignity isn't that important after all.

Tommy Robinson and Musk Sr sharing a drink in Russia, nothing to see here

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Well apparently the Green Party aren't as extreme as Reform. No misogyny, homophobia and racism from that quarter. Just a little question of some of their representatives now getting the memo. It must have got lost.

"The Direct Action channel [behind the arson attacks on Starmer's home] also amplified far right figure Stephen Lennon aka Tommy Robinson.

"The group’s YouTube channel produced a series of professionally-edited propaganda videos promoting Lennon’s planned demonstration in Oct 2025."

Not confused. Just not taking seriously the completely daft accusation you aimed at me.

Omitting something isn't the same as lying about it.

The Green Party's policy on LGBTQ is perfectly clear on their website.

You missed out their repeated attempts to abuse parliamentary process to ram through the assisted suicide bill despite huge issues with the bill, their attempts to shut down free speech by various means, removing jury trials for many, their moves to bring in digital id against the will of many, the Justice Secretary’s repeated claims that we should pay trillions in slave trade ‘reparations’ (even though we spent hand out GDP to above the global slave trade previously), their ban on children accessing social media sites they don’t like but exempting left wing sites like Bluesky. Repeatedly attacking normal British citizens for wanting a say in who settles in our country etc etc

I think the replies to this thread speak volumes. Although I suppose it’s a bit of a self selecting group, people who comment on MN threads are likely to be both intelligent and terminally online, perfect for recruitment to the fringes. The decline of the BBC and the death of local news, and their replacement by online misinformation and foreign backed astroturfing is doing untold harm to the fabric of this country.

From last year and Musk is still at it

https://www.reuters.com/world/musk-examines-how-oust-starmer-uk-premier-before-next-election-ft-reports-2025-01-09/

You haven’t heard of lying by omission?

Maybe you could advise the very upset Muslims who felt lied to and misled, that they should have just read the website. Of course that excludes the voters without internet access or English language skills but I guess you are comfortable with that?

This kind of direct interference is a big problem across the globe now, but really OP, trying to tell people they can't vote for parties offering policies they support, and have to vote for parties who are fucking up, is not likely to be effective.

There are clear ways the major parties could deal with the big issues they are losing support on. The first one is listening to the people and reflecting their concerns and ideas. The second is, where that is not possible, tell people why. Have some real transparency, and stop trying to play the sound bite media game - that's never winnable.

I think to some extent the Conservatives are trying to do that a little, but they are in the enviable position of having a leader who can string two words together, and doesn't necessarily seem to feel the need to avoid making statements some people might not like. As opposed to someone like Starmer who should be able to speak effectively, as he is an accomplished man, but cannot seem to bring himself to do so. Or Farage and Polanski who are sound bite guys.

You'd need to ask MNHQ. Don't you remember?

I wasn't talking about when you signed up to MN.

Feel free to back up your claims with evidence. Everything I posted can be linked back to a parliamentary bill.

The assisted dying bill was a private members bill, not a government one. What precisely did they do to ram it through? You do know the difference between a private members bill and a government one don't you?