If you support Reform, Restore, Greens and similar far right/left parties

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How do you feel about the fact that your support is being whipped up by Russia, in concerted attacks, for the specific purpose of sowing division and political instability in Britain? Is this giving you any pause for thought? Do you think you will go back to supporting traditional parties?

Do you think the party you support has a strong platform to defend the country against clear and present danger from very powerful nations which are taking active measures to harm us? Or put another way, are you prepared to entertain the very real possibility that the party you support is propped up by foreign influence and money that are actually using you as pawns in a political game that will destroy all of us, including yourself?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r2l352z2do

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jan/22/evening-standard-peter-mandelson

Apologies for duplicate photo!

For what? I just pointed out what Cornish actually said. I haven't misrepresented the comments.

As an aside, some of the comments on Yusuf's Facebook page are very funny. One can only hope they are bots and not real people.

And yet other countries have higher tax burdens than the UK and seemingly have a higher quality of life (Belgium, Denmark for example) so, no, I don't think it's high taxation that's been the biggest issue. It's the cost of housing (because Right to Buy made housing aspirational) and the poor quality and high cost of utilities (because profits need to be maximised).

Well a former head of M15 this morning seems to take it seriously, so that should tell you what you need to know?
the BBC may be biased in its reporting and new reading but they are still capable of very good investigations. They have twice managed to identify the ringleaders of small boat crossing operations for instance. See the podcast To Catch a Scorpion on BBC sounds: “The series follows the real-time hunt for Barzan Majeed, an Iraqi-Kurdish national codenamed "Scorpion", mastermind behind one of Europe's most prolific organized crime syndicates, responsible for smuggling thousands of migrants across the English Channel”, and To Catch a King (“Hosted by journalist Sue Mitchell and former soldier Rob Lawrie, the series tracks an international search for a shadowy kingpin responsible for smuggling thousands of migrants into the UK via lorries and small boats.”) There has also been quite a few investigations into smuggling-related dodgy money-laundering shops recently. Are these not true either because they were investigated by the BBC?
Its actually well-known that this is how Russia now operates, they no longer have a specialist spy network, they just target hard-up people via social media to carry out attacks - it’s cheaper and effective. So much the better if people then thinks it sounds far-fetched when it’s exposed.

Russia isnt going to invade. They don't need to. They pay traitors like Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage to wreck the UK for them.🤷‍♀️

Exactly. Why would Russia want to physically invade the UK anyway?

That is interesting. And, of course, Lebedev appointed George Osborne, Cameron's former Chancellor, as Editor of the paper.

Osborne also carried on being the Conservative MP for Tatton - they were too worried about the results of a by-election. So did he do both jobs in London and Cheshire well?

Dont care

Voting reform
Immigration level is too high and is an emergency
Tories and labour both shockingly terrible

…And to add, one of the people interviewed in the investigation is Dr Daniela Richterova, Senior Lecturer in Intelligence Studies at the Department of War Studies at King’s College. “Her research focuses on contemporary issues related to state-based threats and counterterrorism, she is director of the MA in Intelligence and International Security, co-director of the King’s Centre for the Study of Intelligence and she also co-convenes the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar, and teaches on the Cambridge Security Initiative’s specialist course in International Security and Intelligence.”
I recognised her as she was a speaker at an event I attended last year on the way Russia now operates its global spy network, and how they have moved on from their so-called Illegals program. It’s very interesting if you want to research it and make your own mind up.
BBC or not you would think that people who call themselves patriotic would care about foreign powers meddling, what kind of mental contortions do you have to do to tell yourself that it’s irrelevant?

The irony.

Probably the same contortions that others were through in downplaying the Mandelson appointment.

That is interesting. And, of course, Lebedev appointed George Osborne, Cameron's former Chancellor, as Editor of the paper.

Not until 2017.
And who was Jeremy Corbyn's director of communications at the time?
(2015 - 2020);

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-3298550/Red-handed-Photograph-shows-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-pro-Kremlin-spin-chief-held-Putin-s-iron-grip-propaganda-summit.html

Please do elaborate.

Do you understand what irony means? If so, what exactly is it that you think is ironic?

You mentioned rotas. Don't you understand what it means?

I wouldn’t put the Greens in this category but otherwise YANBU

I cannot believe people can’t see this, and won’t even believe it when told outright. The russian information war has been being fought for a long time. That’s how bad it is - and people are accusing you of being brainwashed and a well-meaning and competent PM of somehow being the cause of the division he’s trying to fight.

We are sleep walking into authoritarian regime and I don’t know how we can stop it based on the responses you’ve had.

They beggar belief. But this is the russian playbook 100%. Spread so many lies that no one will believe the truth.

Of course I do.

You mentioned that it seemed to be a pp's turn today. As the pp had been actively engaged in the spreading of disinformation earlier in the thread, I asked if it was there was a rota for doing this.

Now that's settled, are you going to tell me what you think was ironic about my post? A dictionary might help if you aren't sure of the meaning.

Why would you assume that? Do you only believe people you agree with?

I assume you have access to Facebook - it’s in his page along with the letter he’s written to Serco about it.

The funny thing is, I don’t care if you don’t believe me, you being in denial doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

I dint believe my post addressed you but it certainly looks like a I hit a nerve. No, you made an assumption about my original post. The dictionary dig is so passé, BTW.

Also SERCO’s response highlighting the ibaccuracies.

Personally, I believe anyone who can support their statements with proper evidence.

Quite.

The behaviour of this Labour government is getting pretty extreme when you look at it.

It is bullshit, though. Yusuf was getting his pants in a panic over something that wasn't even true. SERCO clarified as per my pp.

FB is awash with disinformation and bots.

Yes, it’s amazing how content some people are with the idea of disenfranchising Muslim voters as long as they are being made to support the correct party.

What has been presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The thing is, other posters have already debunked what he claimed. So I was right, it was just bullshit