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AIBU to think excluding spouses from rehearsal dinners is unusual?

148 replies

Unlisted · Yesterday 19:20

I think I am losing a bit of grip.

People can of course do whatever they want at events that are theirs and that they are paying for.

Last year my SiL only invited her parents, siblings, a couple of cousins and a couple of friends to her wedding. I was not invited but neither was Brother-in-law. I swung between anger and sobbing.

DH admitted it was unconventional but it was up to them.

Now, we are invited to a wedding in a few weeks, DH was going to be an usher but the best man has had to drop out and DH is now best man.

They have had a meal with the wedding party last week I wouldn’t have expected to be invited to this, but they are having a Rehearsal Dinner which I have only heard of through American Sitcoms. I am not invited to this.

So I will check into a hotel with my husband but won’t be able to eat with him. This isn’t normal protocol is it?

I feel people are just losing any sense of decency or is it me? Am I out of touch?

OP posts:
PurpleThistle7 · Yesterday 22:05

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 20:04

Rehearsal dinners are a thing here (US) and the spouses or long time partners of the wedding party are invited. That's the norm. It's weird that he's the best man and you're not invited. Are the wedding couple American?

I think this is regional as my husband wasn’t invited when I was maid of honour in the states. Didn’t occur to anyone to be offended. There was the ceremony rehearsal followed by a meal. My husband did whatever. Think he got room
service? Was a total non issue.

Jopo12 · Today 00:28

I think it's really poor behaviour.
One of the reasons I married my husband was because I loved the loving close inclusive family he came from . I wanted to be a part of that

If one of them invited him and not me to an important family event, the he just wouldn't go. And same goes for my family inviting me an not him. We come as a pair, so you don't get to separate us.

I'll be honest, your DH shouldn't go to the meal. If he sees you as integral to his life and as part of his family unit he should feel as you do. If he doesn't, then you should question his commitment.

MrsClatterbuck · Today 01:13

I once attended a rehearsal dinner. My nephew was getting married. This was abroad and my dh was also included and also spouses of the bridal party.

socialdilemmawhattodo · Today 01:19

thicklysettled · Yesterday 19:36

I'm in the US. It's perfectly commonplace for only the wedding party to attend the rehearsal dinner. Not a snub at all. But to be honest, if your reaction to not being invited to a wedding is either "anger (or) sobbing" you might want to calm down a bit.

Whereas I, in 1993, in the US, was invited, as nothing more than the girlfriend of the bride's brother, to fully attend the wedding ceremonies including the rehearsal dinner. My boyfriend's family were amazing. Shame he wasn't!

Ilovelifeverymuch · Today 02:14

5arkypants · Yesterday 19:23

Why do you even care? Just have room service or better just stay at home. Are you glued together?

Why wouldn't she care? And that doesn't mean she's glued together, it's common courtesy.

AuDrusilla · Today 02:27

Unlisted · Yesterday 19:26

I am more than capable of eating alone but it’s the poor etiquette for want of a better word that upsets me and actually it’s making me feel unsettled about the values I have.

I swung between anger and sobbing

Why?

gillefc82 · Today 04:55

LaJacondeFumantLaPipe · Yesterday 21:08

Oh yes, I agree that the op has been too unnerved by the perceived lack of manners and that she would do better to be more tolerant.

But just because you don't think they are helpful in this specific case, doesn't mean that they don't exist.

There are definitely times when bad etiquette/protocol is actually better manners than sticking rigidly to the rules. For example that famous story about someone drinking the finger bowl not realising that it was for their fingers and not to drink and the host/hostess drinking with the guest so they don't feel uncomfortable. The rule exists but it is sometimes better manners to do the opposite.

For me, the SIL not inviting spouses to her wedding is a breech of etiquette and also very bad manners.

With the rehearsal dinner thing I honestly don't know as rehearsal dinners are American. I believe it is customary to invite spouses to American rehearsal dinners, but maybe someone more knowledgeable could confirm.

Going off on a slight tangent, your finger bowl example reminds me of an incident my DH had in a fairly upscale Chinese restaurant some years before we got together (he’d have been early 20. He wasn’t well seasoned to dining in more formal and higher standard restaurants but his then GF was keen to try it. So they went as a group, including his GF, his best friend and best friend’s GF.

They’d finished their starters which I think were ribs, no problems. Waitress cleared the table and then and laid out a small bowls for each diner, containing water and a slice of lemon. Without stopping to think, my DH picked his little bowl, assuming it was soup and started drinking out of it. After taking one sizeable gulp from the bowl, he started to gag, spitting the remnants loudly and in clear eyeline of other guests. DH then starts loudly asking what that was as it tastes disgusting. At which time the waitress standing across the restaurant floor, immediately understood what had happened and, whilst screaming Nooooooo Mr at the top of her voice, sprinted full pelt to the table, grabbed the bowl out of his hands and as politely and delicately as possible with very little broken English and mainly mime gestures broke the news that he’d just drank soupy lemon water which is meant for washing your fingers when they are sticky after meals and not drinking at all!

By this point all others at that table are in fits of giggles, and some other diners sat close enough to hear the drama are also chuckling away.

since a child DH has a thing about being laughed at, so once what had happened actually clicked, DH within a very short window (15/30 seconds ) starts cycling through reactions : shame, mortification, anger and ultimately settled on denial and bargaining. The whole friends group that were there were made to promise to never mention it to anyone else. Then he insisted on him and GF paying their share of the order and leaving immediately before the main courses have even been delivered.

To this day, he has refused to go back and visit this restaurant over the worry he’ll be recognised. He‘s since made the mistake of telling me and I think it’s completely hilarious so have shared with my Mum and Dad who do use it occasionally to give him a gentle teasing.

PollyBell · Today 05:33

Why would a guest go to a rehersal dinner of they were not part of the wedding party? Isnt the clue in the name?

Spouse or not

Fairyliz · Today 07:28

Just be thankful you are not involved in the ridiculous over the top occasion that weddings have now become.
Whatever happened to having cake and sandwiches in the village hall? Now the most ordinary weddings have become like a full scale production.

blubberyboo · Today 08:16

@Unlisted surely the partners of the rest of the bridal party are also not invited? Could you not book a table with them and have your own rehearsal "get to know the plus ones" dinner. You will all be on your own on the big day while partners perform duties.
It is bad form to exclude you but its also not a big deal. Their "free" dinner wont be without cost. The bride and groom will be finalising their instructions to the bridal party. You probably have a lucky escape

LlynTegid · Today 08:17

Unless the meal is really just a gathering to plan for the day and each person's part in the service, seems unreasonable to me.

hahabahbag · Today 08:21

It’s plain rude. If people are from out of town thus staying in a hotel not socialising with them is wrong, fine to say your guests need to pay £x per head for the Friday night dinner (it’s not a rehearsal, we don’t have them here) but to not invite half a couple, no wrong

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · Today 08:29

@Unlisted yes its odd and imo fucking rude but ultimately you can view this as a clear signal which will save you a lot of hassle long term.

The "anger and sobbing" is presumably grieving the death of the close relationship you had hoped to have had?

I kinda feel you...
My bil and sil are getting married in another CONTINENT on a convenient SUNDAY and their nieces/nephews who they are GODPARENTS to are not invited. The venue has no onsite accommodation for us and their suggestion was we leave a 4 and 2 yo with complete strangers in a hotel room in a different continent... they got the hump when we rsvped for my dh only 👍

For me it means I can without guilt drop the rope. I now have zero interest in investing in the relationship beyong beige politeness.

Anarchy99 · Today 08:40

Anger and sobbing? Is there a massive back story here? That’s a massive overreaction to not being invited to a rehearsal dinner.

Someone else’s event is not all about you. I think you need to work on accepting that

Anarchy99 · Today 08:40

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · Today 08:29

@Unlisted yes its odd and imo fucking rude but ultimately you can view this as a clear signal which will save you a lot of hassle long term.

The "anger and sobbing" is presumably grieving the death of the close relationship you had hoped to have had?

I kinda feel you...
My bil and sil are getting married in another CONTINENT on a convenient SUNDAY and their nieces/nephews who they are GODPARENTS to are not invited. The venue has no onsite accommodation for us and their suggestion was we leave a 4 and 2 yo with complete strangers in a hotel room in a different continent... they got the hump when we rsvped for my dh only 👍

For me it means I can without guilt drop the rope. I now have zero interest in investing in the relationship beyong beige politeness.

Edited

Another one who is struggling with the concept of not being top of the list

TartanCrow · Today 09:03

ClayPotaLot · Yesterday 21:16

The point of a rehearsal dinner is to host the wedding party and important guests like family, because you'd asked them to come the night before to run through the wedding. So if they need to stay overnight it is pretty rude to not ask the partner coming with them to the dinner too, knowing they will otherwise be left hanging about on their own. It's really selfish hosting not to extend an invitation.

Yes, this is a sensible, calm answer. Irrespective of any hyperbole on the part of the OP, it does seem rather inelegant of the bride and groom not to give a crap about the OP being in the hotel for their wedding (and paying for this) and where she might be eating.

Will there be others on their own, expected to eat without their spouses or partners? The B&G might have at least looked into and suggested some arrangements for them to eat together, and enquired if they would like to meet each other and have some company. It only takes a brief, simple note along the lines of, 'For those not attending the formal rehearsal dinner, there will be bar meals available in the hotel lounge from 7.30-9.30pm where you may like to meet each other and have a first drink on us.' Something like that would at least show a bit of thought.

A decent, confident host helps their guests feel comfortable, makes introductions, and cares at least a little about those who have have made the effort to be there.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · Today 09:05

MyLimeGuide · Yesterday 19:38

Uurrghhh this is why I hate entitled wedding people and weddings in general

I think it’s the op that’s entitled not the bride and groom

Unexpectedlysinglemum · Today 09:06

Op did you expect and invite to the stag too?
i would think great evening to myself in hotel room and have a long bath and really enjoy it, or get in touch with the other non invited spouses and have a drink in the bar with them

mindutopia · Today 09:26

I mean, we invited partners to our rehearsal dinner, but partners generally all had a role and everyone was staying in the hotel where the meal was so probably would have been eating at the next table alone if we hadn’t. 😂

A rehearsal dinner is literally the feeding of people who have come and rehearsed the wedding with you for a couple hours. Generally, I don’t think there is a rule that you invite partners of people in the wedding party who come later because they weren’t at the rehearsal. It’s literally who is there. Our partners all happened to be there, so they joined us and we fed them to say thank you for turning up a day early and sitting through that 3 hour shitshow of our wedding music not working.

Honestly, I would not be at all sad to miss such a dinner and would be grateful to escape for a nice peaceful meal away from someone else’s wedding stress.

MidnightPatrol · Today 09:35

The dinner is for the wedding party, and you aren’ t part of that.

I have been to a couple of weddings where DH was best man, and barely saw him at either.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · Today 09:39

ClayPotaLot · Yesterday 21:20

the dinner isn't the rehearsal. A rehearsal dinner is dinner after the wedding party has had a rehearsal of the wedding so that people know where they are supposed to be when and what their role is. It's also (and in reality, mainly) an opportunity for those who are particularly important to the bride and groom to get to know each other and build stronger connections.

Edited

I was being facetious.

The whole idea is just bullshit. It takes 20 minutes to rehearse the wedding ceremony.

Holidayshopping · Today 09:41

Swinging between anger and sobbing?!

I wonder what the SIL and current bridal party would give as their reasons for not inviting you-I could hazard a few guesses.

OtherS · Today 09:44

They probably want a special meal with just those people they've grown up with before they embark upon married life. That sounds really nice actually, I can't imagine why you'd be offended? It will likely be lots of reminiscing, with endless stories about shared childhood adventures you presumably weren't part of, so you'd probably be bored silly. Or wailing that you weren't being included. If you've actually known them since childhood and believed you were besties, then maybe fair enough, but otherwise I think you're being very unreasonable. Your reactions seem pretty self-centred tbh.

Tabarnak · Today 09:45

Unlisted · Yesterday 19:29

It’s a meal the night before the wedding for the wedding party and I am assuming the B&G’s families. Think of Chandler and Monica in Friends only in Yorkshire.

Ah, well, there’s your issue.
Yorkshire

Gardenisablooming · Today 09:47

These rude people will still be accepting of gifts presumably paid for by joint money though?
I'd stay home and enjoy a quiet night personally...

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