Bloody sick of men. Oh it’s the immigrants raping and stabbing, NO it’s men. Always fucking men

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That’s my Friday rant.
Far right men thinking they’re sorting everything out with their riots to protect the women. Maybe women should riot about just men.

also I know it’s not all men, but it is men.

This is pointless.
No acceptance that people are worried and afraid in their home towns.
We have a local FB page giving out warnings and descriptions…it’s hard to comprehend.
We can’t walk home from the train station after dark.
No one asked for any of this.

I hear you.

Stay safe.

As you can see from this thread, people care about VAWG until it’s a narrative they find uncomfortable.

Yes, and men have tried to help victims of these attacks too. Given that on a site called mumsnet, many of us have at least one son, and love them just as much as our daughters, we should stop blaming all of them for what a minority do. It's just as annoying as those who say all terrorists are black and brown-there are white people, and women, who are evil-the majority of all people are good. Having a go at young boys/men telling them they're all bad is hardly likely to make the world a better place-and remember you're effectively insulting all the mums who have at least one boy. Might as well say they're all heroes like Mc Kiernan.

So what? You were out rioting when it happened then were you?

Yeah, people like you. You care until the perpetrator is white.

I just don't know how we can get through to men who from birth are taught that men and women are very different cant pray together can't do this or that etc ?
How ??

Good point, what should we do then? Expel all Orthodox Jews from the country?

Yes, because that means that they have to accept that they can’t tell which men they have to be wary of? But that’s the reality, any man could be an abuser.

Shelters are underfunded
Education of first responders
Legal aid for victims
Enforcement of molestation orders is underfunded as not enough police

I think it is that simple. The lack of funds and caring are exactly why women end up raped and murdered by an ex despite filing police report after police report in the months and weeks leading up to their deaths.

Some of the issues arising in the "justice" system occur simply because time = money. So the wealthy are favoured over the poor.
My wealthy ex-husband was far wealthier than I ever was or ever will be; men - you can "buy yourself" out of coercive control.

Absolute rubbish.

No, it isn’t that simple. You clearly have very little understand of the complexities of domestic violence.

Having experienced it.. twice, I’d love to know the complexities?

It’s very common for victims to withdraw support for prosecutions, or even for restraining orders to be broken by both parties after being imposed. This isn’t a value judgement of the women - like I said it’s very complex. They can prosecute some crimes without victim support. But not all, as it raises evidential problems which you can’t just circumvent.

There is a massive lack of prison spaces, and too many sentences are suspended. This is a governmental failing, not a failing of the justice system. There literally aren’t the cells to put criminals in.

There are issues with domestic violence in a cultural sense. Women are heavily pressured to keep things ‘private’ in certain demographics and widely shamed by their communities if they try to leave a marriage or report abuse. Prising the fingers of those communities off the women is very difficult indeed. Not helped by people insisting every culture is equal and that there are no issues with this. This isn’t something money can remedy, it will take time and for society to acknowledge the truth.

And many more but it’s late now and I’m going to bed. But the problems are far beyond just money.

That enables ALL men though. The question was about which government policy specifically enabled the celebrities you mentioned?

Foreign men regularly use the defence that they didn’t know especially was illegal, didn’t understand consent, can’t speak English, think white girls are trash etc.

Given your point about the massive failures in the justice system that don’t provide a deferent to any men, don’t you think that prevention would save more women?

One form of prevention is to not allow large numbers of foreign men from countries (where women are treated even more horrendously) to wander freely and settle here.

Given the elevated crime numbers (per capita) by men from a specific list of countries that includes Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan as reported yesterday on the BBC, surely it’s worth a try?

Elevated crime numbers per capita are obviously a concern.

But even if we scrapped immigration altogether, in all forms, 98% of the sexual violence that currently occurs would still be happening. It barely makes a ripple on the surface.

given limited resources, I’d focus more on the 98% than the 2%

@CornishDaughteroftheDawn I wonder if pics of being castrated would get through along with instructions to never ever ever make overtures to any woman of any colour ,brief instructions on respect and tell them all women in the UK have a lot of power and if they say you looked at them in the wrong way...(Pics of castation ) This is what will happen

So which women pay the price of the uplift? And can you explain to them why they’re a price worth paying for immigration?

Yanbu. But I did notice the bbc describe the rioters as men on quite a few occasions this week. I can't remember them doing that before.
Basically the news is just full of nasty, thieving, violent things (usually rich) men have done today. Women, children and poorer men get the brunt of it.
I was delighted when Taylor got her masters back as it was a very rare leading good news item about something a woman had done. Admittedly a rich woman, but it means other artists can learn from her mistakes and hopefully keep ownership of their masters.

So if you had limited resources you’d focus on helping the minority and leave victims of British men to it and tell them they’re a prove worth paying to get rid of immigrants would you?

Wow what absolute bollocks, even by your standards. Just pure conjecture.

As much as yours was eh!

Except if you bother to look at the actual data male violence correlates with sex, age and socio-economic status but not with race, religion, ethnicity or culture.

So a young white British male living in a deprived area is everybit as likely to commit acts of violence as a young black Sudanese man living in a deprived area.

Mine was simple. I don’t believe an excess of sex attacks is a price we should be paying to enable yet more immigration into an already very overcrowded country.

This is not at all at odds with wanting justice for victims of ‘home grown’ sex attackers.