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Should they describe this menu item better

263 replies

holidaybubble · Yesterday 13:06

Went to a cafe for the first time it’s not for profit and does stuff for the community. I had been wanting to try it out for a while and finally went to day with my toddler I checked the menu to see if he would eat anything and saw baked beans. I ordered him baked beans on toast with a sausage turns out the beans where homemade and spiced Aibu to think they should state this on the menu as there is a big difference between tinned and home made. I said to the girl behind the counter it was my first time coming she could have said did I know the beans were spiced when ordering for my son. Obviously he refused to eat them.

not linked to my Aibu but my full English came with toast and I got toast for him too. The wait for food was long so they gave me my son’s toast early which I hadn’t asked for. I then didn’t revive my toast with my meal and he then had no toast for his beans. I would have said something but my son was screaming as he was hungry and pushing his pot of beans and spitting them out so I just inhaled mine and left. The person that also works there had gone upstairs and I didn’t want to wait.

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fashionqueen0123 · Yesterday 16:48

JohnnyFedora · Yesterday 14:00

What utter fucking nonsense that you've never been anywhere that serves tinned baked beans? You must have been to a cafe or restaurant or hotel or school canteen or anywhere similar that sells tinned beans for jacket potatoes, breakfasts and beans on toast etc

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I don't believe it either. Every pub, restaurant or cafe I've ever been in and ordered them has had them.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 16:50

fashionqueen0123 · Yesterday 16:48

I don't believe it either. Every pub, restaurant or cafe I've ever been in and ordered them has had them.

...more and more depressing ...

fashionqueen0123 · Yesterday 16:50

GetAFurqingCompass · Yesterday 14:47

Wtf is with all the posters marching along to say they've never known tinned baked beans to be served in a café 🤣

Absolute peak Mumsnet wankery.

Of course you'd expect something advertised as beans on toast to be bog standard beans on fucking toast. "Beans on toast" is a well known meal and everyone in the UK knows it means tinned beans on toast.

I would never have considered checking what was meant by "beans on toast".

Sounds like crap service all round.

Actually laughing out loud at this.

Good grief what cafes are they visiting!

Kokonimater · Yesterday 16:53

Who goes into a cafe and asks them to describe the baked beans? 🤣

Calliopespa · Yesterday 16:54

Kokonimater · Yesterday 16:53

Who goes into a cafe and asks them to describe the baked beans? 🤣

Who goes into a cafe and complains that the food had been made from scratch and wasn't the tinned variety is surely the better question!😂

DappledThings · Yesterday 16:55

Calliopespa · Yesterday 16:50

...more and more depressing ...

Really? They're such an ordinary pre-made item. Do you expect cafes to make their own ketchup as well? Or bread? I wouldn't expect a cafe like OP was in to make any of that stuff.

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 16:56

What have I found?

A load of pretentious contrary twats arguing that they have always been served the finest gourmet bean, shat out by Ramsey himself? And they have never met a tinned baked bean in the outside world?

I think you would be surprised how much food service is just Brakes.

Anyone would assume baked beans means just that, it wouldn't enter most people's heads to ask.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 16:56

DappledThings · Yesterday 16:55

Really? They're such an ordinary pre-made item. Do you expect cafes to make their own ketchup as well? Or bread? I wouldn't expect a cafe like OP was in to make any of that stuff.

Well I wouldn't expect supermarket factory-made bread if that's what you mean? Lots of cafes get it from a bakery.

Tryagain26 · Yesterday 16:59

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 16:56

What have I found?

A load of pretentious contrary twats arguing that they have always been served the finest gourmet bean, shat out by Ramsey himself? And they have never met a tinned baked bean in the outside world?

I think you would be surprised how much food service is just Brakes.

Anyone would assume baked beans means just that, it wouldn't enter most people's heads to ask.

In the type of cafe OP describes I would expect homemade beans in a motorway cafe or similar I would expect tinned beans

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Yesterday 17:01

Tryagain26 · Yesterday 16:59

In the type of cafe OP describes I would expect homemade beans in a motorway cafe or similar I would expect tinned beans

Are you joking?

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 17:16

Tryagain26 · Yesterday 16:59

In the type of cafe OP describes I would expect homemade beans in a motorway cafe or similar I would expect tinned beans

A breakfast / brunch menu in various settings near me in Cornwall. All describe "baked beans". What would you expect in the following settings and I'll tell you what they serve:

  1. Garden centre
  2. Trendy independent cafe on the beach
  3. Trendy restaurant above the beach
  4. Chain pub
  5. Independent pub
Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:16

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Yesterday 17:01

Are you joking?

I don't think she is joking.

It isn't such an unthinkable idea - and certainly not "pretentious" - that people might think food was being prepared from scratch. Yes, in a motorway kitchen or, for me, a bed n breakfast type set up where they don't have a full kitchen.

To me it is a sign of how low our expectations around food have fallen as a nation that this would be seen as somehow extraordinary.

chocoluv · Yesterday 17:17

If I ordered baked beans, I would expect beans in tomato sauce like in the tin - not spicy beans.

YANBU

DappledThings · Yesterday 17:19

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 17:16

A breakfast / brunch menu in various settings near me in Cornwall. All describe "baked beans". What would you expect in the following settings and I'll tell you what they serve:

  1. Garden centre
  2. Trendy independent cafe on the beach
  3. Trendy restaurant above the beach
  4. Chain pub
  5. Independent pub

Tinned in all of them except maybe number 3. Although also wouldn't expect anything on the menu of number 3 to feature beans so it's moot.

They're such an innocuous item I would be surprised by anyone bothering to make. I wouldn't put them in the same category as a pasta sauce or something that I would absolutely to be made fresh.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:19

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 17:16

A breakfast / brunch menu in various settings near me in Cornwall. All describe "baked beans". What would you expect in the following settings and I'll tell you what they serve:

  1. Garden centre
  2. Trendy independent cafe on the beach
  3. Trendy restaurant above the beach
  4. Chain pub
  5. Independent pub

Well you've already told us you only eat at tinned beans establishments.

Fresh food isn't twatty. Some of the most rural and straightforward villages I have visited around the world have unadulterated fresh ingredients in their eating establishments.

DappledThings · Yesterday 17:21

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:16

I don't think she is joking.

It isn't such an unthinkable idea - and certainly not "pretentious" - that people might think food was being prepared from scratch. Yes, in a motorway kitchen or, for me, a bed n breakfast type set up where they don't have a full kitchen.

To me it is a sign of how low our expectations around food have fallen as a nation that this would be seen as somehow extraordinary.

Maybe that's the difference. I consider them to be pretty much a condiment rather than a proper food. Which is why I wouldn't expect them to be homemade any more than I would expect the mayonnaise to be. But I would expect a proper dish and its elements to be homemade.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:22

DappledThings · Yesterday 17:19

Tinned in all of them except maybe number 3. Although also wouldn't expect anything on the menu of number 3 to feature beans so it's moot.

They're such an innocuous item I would be surprised by anyone bothering to make. I wouldn't put them in the same category as a pasta sauce or something that I would absolutely to be made fresh.

Well, see you have a bar too, and it's pasta sauce - which can perfectly easily be bought in a jar, yet you don't seem to feel that is "twatty."

Baked beans are every bit as easy - and truly delicious. If you do them in an iron pot they get that deep rich iron flavour of homecooked stews. And you can customise them - which is part of the joy. My DH likes bacon bits. I like a good whack of chilli and fresh parsley.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · Yesterday 17:22

Teapot I think they would be baked beans from a tin...

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:24

chocoluv · Yesterday 17:17

If I ordered baked beans, I would expect beans in tomato sauce like in the tin - not spicy beans.

YANBU

Baked refers to the cooking method, not the flavourings.

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 17:26

I can't imagine anyone who thinks OP was being unreasonable has any idea of the costs or profit margins in this industry. The majority of venues cannot afford to have someone slaving over "baked beans"

The cafe is run not for profit, so even less reason to think you would be getting anything different or elevated.

katepilar · Yesterday 17:27

I wouldnt expected baked beans to come out of a tin in a cafe.

toastofthetown · Yesterday 17:28

toastandegg · Yesterday 16:46

I definitely think they should have mentioned- I have an allergy to chilli which includes paprika and would have been quite ill

Every restaurant or cafe I’ve been to in the last several years has asked if there are any allergies or dietary requirements. If you say no because you’ve made assumptions about what is or isn’t in the food you haven’t prepared that’s on you.

TeaPot496 · Yesterday 17:30

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · Yesterday 17:22

Teapot I think they would be baked beans from a tin...

Yes, they all were.

The only times I have ever had anything different they were described as something different, of course, which is why I chose them (no offense to tinned baked beans!)

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:33

Anyway, after all this talk about them, I'm now about to make them for tonight! Perfect easy meal. It's all in my pot in under five minutes then bake ...

DappledThings · Yesterday 17:38

Calliopespa · Yesterday 17:24

Baked refers to the cooking method, not the flavourings.

I'm sure it does but it is still entirely reasonable for someone to assume that beans on toast on a children's menu in a café means beans out of a tin in a standard tomato sauce.

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