To be increasung concerned about Restore Britain.

[NoisyHiker]

I know many people don't like Owen Jones, but I found this article deeply disturbing.

I am a child of immigrants, and my children are mixed race. So things like this are really starting to worry me.

I completely understand why people are angry at the current rate and quality of immigration (my own family are also disgruntled with it). But Restore want to deport even those who have citizenship.

And I am genuinely concerned that things are going to get worse than Farage if the government don't get a grip on this.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/10/restore-britain-right-politics-white-supremacist

I'm asking for your view on his stance: if it were possible, do you think it would be morally right to deport people who've lived here for decades legally?

No.

Ok. So Farage has called for something that you think is morally wrong. Thank you.

I agree with you OP.

But the answer is not just to dislike Lowe/Farage etc. As you acknowledge there is genuine widespread dissatisfaction across the UK not just about immigration but more widely at the lack of dynamism and prospects for our lovely country.

The real villains in this are our current government (and the previous ones). Night after night they basically tell us that we are idiots and everything is going swimmingly when it so obviously is not.

The total failure of Labour (and predecessors) to address or even acknowledge any of these issues has allowed more extreme parties to prosper.

What is so badly needed is parties at the centre to acknowledge the problems and propose radical effective solutions. Their continued failure to do so just gives oxygen to Lowe/Farage etc.

Personally I like Kemi who seems to say the right things but obviously I have no idea whether she could deliver.

I live in France.

Each year for the first 5 I have to prove that I have the financial means to stay, that I am not taking benefits, that I have a place to live that I fund, that I pay my bills etc.

After that I have to keep doing that either every 5 years or 10.

Why should this be different to people coming to the UK?

He's repeatedly defended terrorists or terrorist apologists.

He's a vile racist.

I was listening to a woman on the radio yesterday about the abuse she (white) and her black husband and mixed race kids face on a daily business. I found it hard to believe but that's probably my white privilege talking. It's very sad what is happening to the UK and I can see it getting a whole lot worse if Restore or Reform get in.

Because successive conservative governments decided that was never a priority.

Legal immigrants have to do this. They are not entitled to benefits for 5 years and pay a huge sum in NHS costs.

Owen Jones is a hateful bigot

Restore are utterly horrendous but they are splitting the Reform vote and ultimately I think Labour will win Makerfield BECAUSE Restore steal Reform votes, which is pretty funny.

They are cartoonish 'baddies'. The Greens are the same.

Owen Jones is a perpetual victim.
The only danger from the far right is that the moderates in politics just keep pointing at them rather than addressing the issues underlying their popularity.

Owen Jones is always the first to try to shut down debate. He is a big part of the problem.

I know.

And remember when he was foaming at the mouth about gender critical views being explored on (quote) ‘if you can believe it, Mumsnet’.

His contempt for women, particularly is boring mums, is palpable.

But would that actually be a good thing? Much as I dislike Lowe/Farage, a Labour victory in the by-election will just lead to more of kicking the can down the road and pretending the UK does not have serious issues when it so obviously does.

I think the only hope to avoid extremism is for the centre parties to wake up and act!

I bet.

Agree completely. I just cannot vote Reform on this principle. I desperately want immigration dealt with properly though. No more asylum seekers, net 0 migration, no more bringing 6 dependants or ‘student visas’ allowing people to enter via back door routes.

I completely agree.

It's very frustrating. The failure of multiple governments feels like it is leading to something very dangerous.

I think arguments are useless regarding Restore and Reform. Don't you all know fascists practise mission creep once they get in power. It's the number one rule in their playbook. You'll all be deported eventually because you said something they didnt like. The level of gullability in this country is staggering. I'm.pretty sure the leaders all turn into Griffin behind closed doors. I bet the leaders sit there rubbing their hands and laughing while they plot how they are going to rob UK blind and bugger off before anyone realise what is going on. You all fell for the numbers on the bus and now it's happening all over again. Unbelievable.

Then these are not the people he is on about. I've seen people reporting that they got ILR in months so how is this possible with the above?

Maybe everyone needs to be honest about the nature of the problem from the get go and then we will all have some facts and proper stats to base judgements on?

Same re Kemi. The trickier part is her party lag in public perception. I’d love to see her as PM though, the men could learn from her on how to fix stuff.

Again, when or how?

During apartheid black South Africans were called terrorists for fighting for freedom. Some countries supported them, some did not. Interestingly enough Israel supported the SA Apartheid regime, so in light of today would we still say black South Africans were the were the terrorists? What would we say about the countries that supported and propped up the Apartheid regime?

if we look at what happened before the 7th attacks against Israel. Months before, years before, would you say the Israeli attacks against Palestines were terrorist attacks as well? That would be fair, so that means both Palestine and Israel would be guilty of terrorist attacks no?

Re the op all the parties and what’s going on is a symptom of a system that isn’t working.

I have never heard of anyone getting ILR in months, they may have not been honest with you.

I’m not concerned, they’ll split the far right vote and that can only be a good thing.

It is not possible to get ILR in months. It takes 5 years and a number of conditions need to be satisfied. A quick look at the Gov UK site will show that. Legal immigration has been significantly tightened.