AIBU to question John Lewis advert and its message about women?

[Sheldonsheher]

John Lewis pushing this advert on my social media. Do they support oppression of women or is this a symbol of women’s right to choose .

I find these comments mind boggling. But I was born here and not into a Muslim family and have worn them and will wear them. How oblivious am I to the oppression I am under? Please don't insult me with such statements - how are YOU telling ME I'm oppressed when I'm literally telling you quite the opposite. I'm tempted to ask for your qualifications to make such bold statements.

It really doesn't matter what the truth is you will be hell bent on pushing your narrative about Muslim women being oppressed. So be it. Im
oppressed and happy. What is your point?

TBF, I’ve seen this ad/item, and I definitely wasn’t looking for it.

I've no idea what it's called and don't really want to know but it covers them from head to toe.

A poster up thread said the outfit the OP had highlighted was a prayer outfit and nothing to do with being covered. It may be a prayer outfit but to imply that muslim women cover up only to pray is quite simply bollocks.

I generally think other people should not be telling women what they should or should not wear - whether it is conservative mullahs in Iran, French secular governments or self styled feminist liberators on here.

Leave people to be themselves.

Well yes we can debate about free will and choice regarding most decisions, including shaving our legs etc. We are all functions of our environment, culture etc. But are you saying a single Muslim woman who decides to wear a hijab is always being directly forced to by a man in her life? Just to be clear.

You said you were Muslim. 😐

No they don't because nuns and clergy wear specialist clothing! This outfit is for a normal woman who happens to be a muslim. I guess a bit like jewellers that sell a cross on a chain.

The racism is open on this thread!!! John Lewis (like many other retailers) have decided to provide clothing for as many potential customers as they can. and why not????

As Ive said in a previous post, my daughter was born into a mainly atheist family with no Muslim connections at all, in south London. She graduated with a first class honours degree and has a master’s degree and is the least oppressed woman Ive ever met. She chose to concert to Islam with no influence at all and has worn traditional clothing for the last five years. She has never been happier or more fulfilled.

Is she in a relationship @Growlybear83 ?

I think they are a bit sad.

I kind of agree as it’s cultural appropriation in away nothing in Islam says you have to dress like you live in the desert.

Well, it's trendy, innit. Some people just need to conform, and if she's in London, she's probably now dressing like most of her neighbours. Are you pleased she wears this type of clothing? Is this what you dreamed for her?

Totally this!! and the racism will be the end of the UK as we know it if Reform/ restore get into Government. The end of workers rights, womens's rights, including potentially abortions and maternity leave. Then the end of the NHS as most will be unable to afford healthcare.
Farage received £80,000 in funding from US anti abortion groups last year and also said that the NHS would not be funded by taxation. so who pays??
NO CRITICAL THINKING at all

Yes. I know I am Muslim. Didn't say I was born into a Muslim family like you describe in your post?

I didn't say you were oppressed but perhaps spare a thought for women who are oppressed. Your happy embracing of covering up in a country where there is no need to do so validates mandatory covering.

Or are you saying no women are oppressed by this?

Let me guess, you converted to Islam for a man? And now you have to wear this? Oh, the irony.

Oh yes right got it. Querying why women need to or are often forced to dress like this makes one a Farage supporter. And you're lambasting lack of critical thought.

Let me guess, she converted because she was in a relationship with a Muslim man @Growlybear83 ?

Women unfortunately are oppressed everywhere - for many reasons - through different cultures and traditions and or religions. So attempting to address/correct a stereo type means I don't have a thought for women who are oppressed? You have zero idea of the work I do and the efforts I put into creating a just environment for everyone. I just highlighted that we don't need to keep jumping on the same bandwagon of Muslim
women who cover up are oppressed rather than recognising that actually maybe they are braver and bolder than most women by actually making such a statement in public knowing such views exist and doing it despite the negativity.

Yabu obviously 🙄

It’s not trendy at all. She hasn’t lived in London permanently for several years now - she currently lives in a small town in Germany, where she has experienced quite a bit of prejudice. However there are very few women who you can tell are obviously Muslim from their clothing in my area. Quite honestly I woukd rather my daughter dresses how she does now than her wearing the sort of clothing she wore ten years ago. My dream for her when she was a little girl was for her to be happy - she is now happier than I could ever have imagined and has grown into a lovely person , so yes, she has fulfilled my dreams.

As Ive already said, no she wasn’t ina relationship at the time

This is so lovely to read.