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AIBU to marry secretly now and hold a wedding in 2028?

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Wededed · Yesterday 13:03

We are just about to book a wedding venue. We were going to do next summer but are tempted to do 2028 as it gives us more time to save, and more time to fit in planning/ organising.

But this is two years away!!!

We are well overdue this wedding. We have been engaged for many years. I believe 6 or 7!!

With two young kids and assets now worth worrying about legally. Would it be unreasonable to go and get married secretly in private without telling anyone at a registry office.

We can then have the 2028 wedding as planned but if either of us gets hit by a bus in the meantime then we are legally covered.

One part of me thinks this is no big deal. It’s no different to 3/4 of the weddings I have been to where people are having destination weddings or celebrants weddings at unlicensed venues.

The only difference is the extensive time frame and we won’t be able to wear our rings or change our names without others knowing until after the 2028 date.

What do you think?

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TulipsAndPancakes · Yesterday 22:14

Get married, keep it low key as you like but tell everyone and have a celebration if needed at a later date? No need to keep it hush hush and no need to have a fake wedding 2 years later.. its about the marriage not the wedding anyway, imo.

Confuserr · Yesterday 22:17

You basically want everyone to come to your vow renewal. But you're going to pretend they're new vows. Weird.

Moveoverdarlin · Yesterday 22:25

Wededed · Yesterday 21:06

Just to have a nearly normal wedding like everyone else. I say nearly normal because we don’t want some traditions.

So a short ceremony, food and entertainment, party, white dress, take family pictures, cake, drink, flowers, no walking down the aisle, exchange rings.

We aren’t having speeches, bridal/ groom parties, hen or stag dos.

Thinking maybe we can walk down the aisle one after each other - each with one child and they can sit on the front row.

Change names afterwards.

Maybe the invite should just say ‘We invite you to celebrate Mr and Mrs X’

So what you’re doing for the ‘big do’ in 2028 sounds quite low key anyway, it’s not marquees, bridal parties, speeches, canapés, Pimms on the lawn type stuff, so why wait TWO YEARS for a fairly small, informal wedding? Can’t you get married in the registry office on a Tuesday afternoon in July, just the two of you, then have the big party in say September / October this year?

The two year gap is bloody ridiculous, people will feel a bit miffed, but doing it all in the same summer is a lot more sensible.

Wededed · Yesterday 22:27

Confuserr · Yesterday 22:17

You basically want everyone to come to your vow renewal. But you're going to pretend they're new vows. Weird.

If we chose civil then apparently you don’t have to do vows.

So they would be new vows if we do vows.

You also don’t have to exchange rings legally. So they could be first time ring exchange.

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Ohdearnotthisagain · Yesterday 22:28

This is weird. Just get married and at some point have a party if you want one.

Wededed · Yesterday 22:29

Moveoverdarlin · Yesterday 22:25

So what you’re doing for the ‘big do’ in 2028 sounds quite low key anyway, it’s not marquees, bridal parties, speeches, canapés, Pimms on the lawn type stuff, so why wait TWO YEARS for a fairly small, informal wedding? Can’t you get married in the registry office on a Tuesday afternoon in July, just the two of you, then have the big party in say September / October this year?

The two year gap is bloody ridiculous, people will feel a bit miffed, but doing it all in the same summer is a lot more sensible.

Absolutely will be pimms on the lawn if a summer do 😂

And haven’t made the decision on food but not averse to some canapés.

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JustGiveMeReason · Yesterday 23:18

I am wondering whether this is a generational thing because as I said before nowadays I am actually surprised when it’s a real wedding.

Nope.
Between them, my dc have been to / about to go to 13 different weddings over the last two Summer / this Summer coming.
All actual weddings.

It really isn't a generational thing, its a you either know a lot of strange people, or you are exaggerating the number of 'fake weddings' you have been to to convince yourself this is a normal thing to do.

Wededed · Yesterday 23:22

JustGiveMeReason · Yesterday 23:18

I am wondering whether this is a generational thing because as I said before nowadays I am actually surprised when it’s a real wedding.

Nope.
Between them, my dc have been to / about to go to 13 different weddings over the last two Summer / this Summer coming.
All actual weddings.

It really isn't a generational thing, its a you either know a lot of strange people, or you are exaggerating the number of 'fake weddings' you have been to to convince yourself this is a normal thing to do.

That is incredibly unusual!

I wouldn’t be surprised if my stats were slightly higher due to the number of destination weddings, but about 50/50 I would assume is normal now.

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 23:23

Wededed · Yesterday 23:22

That is incredibly unusual!

I wouldn’t be surprised if my stats were slightly higher due to the number of destination weddings, but about 50/50 I would assume is normal now.

It isn’t unusual at all. Destination weddings aside most people get legally married with the party immediately afterwards.

Genevieva · Yesterday 23:35

Do what you want, but don’t lie. It’s an inauspicious way to start married life and you are bound to get found out and cause upset.

In all honesty, I don’t really understand the appeal of a fake wedding during which nothing actually changes. It’s just a party in disguise. In your shoes I’d get married now (because you want to be married now), then I’d have a party - and call it a party - when it suited me.

whiteboard · Today 04:55

So when you “get married” in 2028 you’ll already have been married for 2 years.

Are you not planning on taking your marriage vows seriously for those two years? A marriage is a marriage. In those two years you are not going to call him your husband, or yourself his wife? Or are you not counting that as a ‘real’ marriage, even though it is by law, and by 99% of peoples understanding ?

I’m not sure you’ve put yourself in the shoes of future you, standing at your “marriage” looking at your husband and saying a performative series of words that outline a reality you’ve already been living for 2 years? Won’t you feel, at the very least, faintly ridiculous?

I can promise you that 2 years into a marriage, if you’ve been doing it right, you’ll be thinking ‘well this is weird.’ Because if you somehow think that the pretend wedding is the actual important day, you’re kind of making a mockery of the institution of marriage, no?

Because it looks very much like what you’re saying publicly will be : “Yeah, the previous two years, that was just necessary admin. THIS is the read deal, now, this, where we publicly admit we’ve lived a lie for two years. THIS is what commitment looks like.”

THAT is the bit that you don’t seem to want to recognise as the crux of the deceit.

We’re not talking about people fudging a month or so because they couldn’t get the exact date they wanted at the venue, or they got hitched because Uncle Sid was dying, you are asking people to collude with you in imagining that 2 years of marriage is a sort of administrative oversight just because you like the idea of being Princess for a day.

So when on the day you say “We did the legal bit earlier,” you don’t imagine that anyone will say “Oh? When?” What will you say? Is that when you reveal it was in 2026 or will you outright lie and say “last week.” ? You need to give proper thought to this and how you will handle the question as it arises, because this is the crux of it.

Some people might not care. As you can see from quite a lot of responses on here, a lot WOULD care, to the extent that friendships have ended over the deceit.

Have the party, wear the dress, spend the money, that’s fine. But just be honest about what you’re asking people to take part in. Weddings are still a collaborative event: you seem to be treating it like a performance you’re putting on for people to watch, and that’s quite telling about your motives.

It’s absolute fine to want to be the centre of attention for a day; that will still happen if you call it an anniversary party, or a renewal of vows ( actually, don’t call it that, people always assume one of you has cheated).

You’re banking a lot on everyone seeing it the same way as you, and not something that could cause a bit of fuss on the day and actually mean that how wonderful you look and aren’t these canapés delightful isn’t the main topic of conversation.

That was a lot of words to basically echo a PP.

It’s. The. Lying.

Jellycatspyjamas · Today 05:55

I also think you’re missing the collaborative part of a wedding. Many people when they go to a wedding see themselves as having a role in supporting the couple in married life. In some weddings this is made explicit - the congregation are asked if they will commit to supporting the couple and the congregation reply “we will”. But I think it’s unspoken in any event.

A wedding isn’t a party, or a performance you put on, or an opportunity to be princess for a day. It can be those things but it’s solemnising a commitment the two of you are making to each other.

If you think of marriage as just a legal contract, that’s fine, go get your bit of paper but don’t lie about it and don’t pretend just so you can have the big dress and all the attention. It’s fine to want those things of course but it’s not a wedding if you’ve been married for two years.

Bricayak · Today 05:58

Like everyone else says, just do your marriage and then have a party. Lying about it is shitty for your guests.

There IS a difference between a party and a wedding - you know this otherwise you wouldn’t be bending every which way to make the party your ‘wedding’.

We’ve been invited to one of these where the bride & groom were dishonest about it and it caused everyone to spend the whole build up speculating and asking, and really pissed people off. Not necessarily because of the situation but because of the lie.

Boomer50 · Today 06:28

Unless you really want a wedding I would do get married and then tell everybody after . My gf eloped to New York . She came home to Melbourne and announced she got married at a giant (catered) party . It was wonderful.

BakedPotatoBeansCheeseColeslaw · Today 06:34

Cailin66 · Yesterday 18:33

For a marriage to be legal the civil part is the legal bit. In the UK and Ireland when you get married in “church” it compromises two parts. Civil and religious. Many people do not realise this. In France and other countries you have to get “legally*” married in the town hall/legal registry office, followed by a “marriage” before a priest in the church.

At my actual marriage in Ireland our wedding guests could not understand how we were married as we didn’t do it in a church!

You’re friends weddings abroad saved on hassle by legally marrying in the UK (to get the actual legacy’s sorted) and then having a “church” or “event place” abroad to celebrate with family.

You’re disrespectful in the extreme by imagining your wedding won’t be destroyed when your guests find out you’ve been actually married two years. All because you want to be a “princess”. That’s not what a wedding is about.

You’re also incorrect to state people can’t get legally married abroad. Many Irish have been getting legally married in church’s in Rome, Italy, for decades… You must comply with both the legal, and church requirements to do so…

*not just CofE or Catholic, off the top of my head I can’t remember all of them… but the usuals…

Personally I find abroad weddings incredibly self indulgent. To then find out you are spending a load of money and annual leave to essentially attend a party is a bit of a piss take. If you can’t do it legally, do it somewhere else properly imo

Lifestooshort71 · Today 07:06

The OP isn't taking any of our comments on board so why bother posting in AIBU?

Londonrach1 · Today 07:09

Yabu. Your wedding is when you get married. As a guest turning up to a party two years later without knowing it's not a wedding is rude. Just do a smaller wedding now which could just be going to the registry office and fish and chips afterwards or similar and if you arrange a party later be upfront with it.

forgivingfiggy · Today 07:11

I don’t think you can have your cake and eat it. It makes complete sense to legally bind your relationship especially as you have children together. Do that. Have the registry office wedding and let the idea of ‘the big day’ go. Save the money or take your kids on a holiday. It’s not worth the faff to chase some fantasy. Your priorities are different, and accepting that is in itself, a celebration of the family you have. The kids will still get to dress up.

PrueRamsay · Today 07:13

It really is such a naff thing to do.

Tableforjoan · Today 07:20

Out of all the weddings I’ve attended only one was fake. They tried to play it off as the real deal but it got out.

We were invited to a second fake wedding clear from the website of the venue. We declined because we were not going to travel all that way, pay for a hotel and get childcare for a party that was being sold as your invited to the wedding or mr and mrs been married for 2 months.

Joloman74 · Today 07:41

You do what you want! It wouldn't bother me to attend a celebration a couple of years after and give a gift. Its not like your getting 2 gifts so I dont understand those on here griping about the cost. You wouldn't be getting anything the first time round so what's the problem. If friends and family love you they would support whatever you choose to do.

Modification24 · Today 07:52

I know I'm being unreasonable but I get annoyed to go to a wedding to discover there's been a ceremony elsewhere days prior.

I cannot explain why though. I think somewhere in my irrational brain, it makes the bit that everyone is invited to performative. I understand most would see it as a celebration and happy event though. Ultimately it's your life and money! Do what makes sense for you 😀

Katiesaidthat · Today 08:16

Sahara123 · Yesterday 13:47

My daughters friends got married in Spain last year, it’s definitely legal

Yeah, was just about to say this. Our local church in Spain hosts quite a few Irish weddings (weddings abroad for them) and the marriage is totally legal. My parents got married in London back in the 70s, it is definitely a legal marriage in Spain.

hcee19 · Today 08:22

Dont know if you are in the UK, but if you are, the law has changed about people's rights if they are not married. Do your research and you will find you do not have to get married at all if you are only doing it for legal reasons

Shinyandnew1 · Today 08:26

hcee19 · Today 08:22

Dont know if you are in the UK, but if you are, the law has changed about people's rights if they are not married. Do your research and you will find you do not have to get married at all if you are only doing it for legal reasons

Can you link to this new ‘law’?