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AIBU to marry secretly now and hold a wedding in 2028?

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Wededed · Yesterday 13:03

We are just about to book a wedding venue. We were going to do next summer but are tempted to do 2028 as it gives us more time to save, and more time to fit in planning/ organising.

But this is two years away!!!

We are well overdue this wedding. We have been engaged for many years. I believe 6 or 7!!

With two young kids and assets now worth worrying about legally. Would it be unreasonable to go and get married secretly in private without telling anyone at a registry office.

We can then have the 2028 wedding as planned but if either of us gets hit by a bus in the meantime then we are legally covered.

One part of me thinks this is no big deal. It’s no different to 3/4 of the weddings I have been to where people are having destination weddings or celebrants weddings at unlicensed venues.

The only difference is the extensive time frame and we won’t be able to wear our rings or change our names without others knowing until after the 2028 date.

What do you think?

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Delphiniumandlupins · Yesterday 18:53

Wededed · Yesterday 18:41

You’re friends weddings abroad saved on hassle by legally marrying in the UK (to get the actual legacy’s sorted) and then having a “church” or “event place” abroad to celebrate with family.

Yes so thats what we are thinking of doing too. Just all in UK, with a large gap.

It’s a bit weird the time lapse. But apart from that I am not seeing the difference.

The difference is that the guests at the weddings you have attended knew (or didn't care) that they were not actually witnessing a legal marriage. You are proposing that none of your guests know, because you know some of them will care. A lot. I think you can have the wedding reception/party in two years, with all the trimmings, but don't deceive your guests. If these are people you want to celebrate your marriage with, surely they are important enough to you to be honest?

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:53

Wededed · Yesterday 18:41

You’re friends weddings abroad saved on hassle by legally marrying in the UK (to get the actual legacy’s sorted) and then having a “church” or “event place” abroad to celebrate with family.

Yes so thats what we are thinking of doing too. Just all in UK, with a large gap.

It’s a bit weird the time lapse. But apart from that I am not seeing the difference.

It's. The. Lying!!

AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 18:56

EBITDAisMyHappyPlace · Yesterday 13:46

What!!! In what world do you think that’s correct! I got married abroad and that alone, no need to register it or do anything legal in the UK and it’s perfectly legal thank you so check your facts 🤣🤣

Same! Married abroad in 1999! I can assure you it was legal & recognised in the UK . And it was in a holiday resort before anyone says they mean those types of destination weddings aren’t legal !

Scrumptiousy · Yesterday 18:56

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WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 18:58

StopFeckingSnoring · Yesterday 13:50

I would be unimpressed to go to a wedding with all the costs involved and to celebrate a couple when the whole day was a sham.

I think this is the crux of it. It’s a huge expense these days. And not one people would be happy to spend on if all it is, is a party.

I have declined a very close relatives wedding this summer for exactly the same situation. They have been married for 3 years already and now want a big fancy do when the actual reason for a wedding isn’t even meaningful anymore.
So I have declined. I’m not spending money on a big party. I am sending a gift but that’s it.

Wededed · Yesterday 18:59

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Thank you for acknowledging your mistake.

As far as I know no one has had a 2 year interlude; 1 month to 1 week is more typical. But I wouldnt know for sure for all of them. Maybe some have.

Kids are young and we wouldnt take them to the registry.

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AurielleBaies · Yesterday 19:00

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Oh come on - so nasty.

OP you are not going to get the responses on here that you want or are in any way rational. I suggest you talk to your fiance to make the decision between you. FWIW when we did the same, we did end up telling very close family a few months after. They were happy for us and excited about the ‘party wedding’ that we were planning. Maybe you could think about telling some of your closest so that it doesn’t feel like a big secret?

Walker1178 · Yesterday 19:02

I have a friend who actually did this! They got legally married in the UK, the day was for them and their DC and they didn’t tell any close friends or family. (We originally met online as part of a mums due board but went on to meet up regularly with the babies as we were local, so I guess I was a safe share!) The plan was to do it all again with everyone later down the line but they couldn’t without letting everyone know they’d already done it so the ‘official’ wedding was then held abroad.

StopFeckingSnoring · Yesterday 19:02

Wededed · Yesterday 18:41

You’re friends weddings abroad saved on hassle by legally marrying in the UK (to get the actual legacy’s sorted) and then having a “church” or “event place” abroad to celebrate with family.

Yes so thats what we are thinking of doing too. Just all in UK, with a large gap.

It’s a bit weird the time lapse. But apart from that I am not seeing the difference.

The difference is the lying.

Wededed · Yesterday 19:03

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:53

It's. The. Lying!!

I am not planning on lying outright. I am just going to say yes we have done the registry bits. Like everyone else who has a pre-register wedding. Thats it.

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Scrumptiousy · Yesterday 19:03

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 19:03

Wededed · Yesterday 19:03

I am not planning on lying outright. I am just going to say yes we have done the registry bits. Like everyone else who has a pre-register wedding. Thats it.

So what kind of ceremony do you envision second time round?

Corvidsarethebest · Yesterday 19:04

To me, it's like announcing you are having a birthday dinner in June, getting everyone to come, bring presents, and then, once at the table, saying my birthday is actually in December.

I mean you could, it's not illegal, but it's off.

Whinge · Yesterday 19:05

Wededed · Yesterday 19:03

I am not planning on lying outright. I am just going to say yes we have done the registry bits. Like everyone else who has a pre-register wedding. Thats it.

Well no one is randomly going ask you about the legal bits as they're going to assume the big wedding you're planning is the real thing. So there won't be a chance to tell them.

Pibrea · Yesterday 19:06

I went all the way to Italy for a wedding recently which was basically a party. They’d already got married a couple of months previously. I knew in advance that it wasn’t the real wedding but it still pissed me off. They kept referring to the real ceremony as ‘just the legal part’, but it’s not like the fake wedding was in a church or something. So without a religious aspect, the legal part is the bloody wedding!!!

so yeah don’t do this 🤣 you will end up with some bitter relatives like me

venusandmars · Yesterday 19:08

Scrumptiousy · Yesterday 18:03

How young? Because attending their parents wedding and not once mentioning it to family or friends… the eldest can’t be older than 2

And I can't believe they'd have their kids at their 'actual' wedding and not take a single photo...

AurielleBaies · Yesterday 19:09

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 19:03

So what kind of ceremony do you envision second time round?

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. You know some people have humanist or religious weddings etc? You have a celebrant or priest and they will do a personalised ceremony or a blessing. These types of ceremonies have no legal binding. I have no idea why the legal bit matters soooo much to people here because it doesn’t to anyone else that I know outside of Mumsnet?!

Wededed · Yesterday 19:09

Pibrea · Yesterday 19:06

I went all the way to Italy for a wedding recently which was basically a party. They’d already got married a couple of months previously. I knew in advance that it wasn’t the real wedding but it still pissed me off. They kept referring to the real ceremony as ‘just the legal part’, but it’s not like the fake wedding was in a church or something. So without a religious aspect, the legal part is the bloody wedding!!!

so yeah don’t do this 🤣 you will end up with some bitter relatives like me

Would you have preferred not to know?

I am wondering whether this is a generational thing because as I said before nowadays I am actually surprised when it’s a real wedding. When I am getting the invite I am assuming it’s registry day/wedding day.

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Wededed · Yesterday 19:10

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Well if thats so outrageous I am now considering 2 randoms off the street!

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AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 19:10

sweetpickle2 · Yesterday 13:45

Most abroad weddings you need to get legally married in the UK first.

This thread makes me wonder how many people have attended weddings and watched a ceremony and assumed they're watching the legal one when they're not.

(One could argue, does it even matter whether it's the legal one or not?)

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Muslim weddings aren’t the legal ceremony? I think some work colleagues had registry office ceremonies then a massive wedding shortly after. It’s the 2 year gap that would seem odd to me. Some guests wouldn’t bother attending if it was a distance away, involved a lot of money & effort etc imo.

Wededed · Yesterday 19:12

AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 19:10

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Muslim weddings aren’t the legal ceremony? I think some work colleagues had registry office ceremonies then a massive wedding shortly after. It’s the 2 year gap that would seem odd to me. Some guests wouldn’t bother attending if it was a distance away, involved a lot of money & effort etc imo.

Thank you, yes thats what I think might be seen as weird. The two year gap. So thats the part I am thinking of just omitting from information

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EligibleTern · Yesterday 19:14

What actual difference does it make? Either way you're celebrating the wedding of those two people, so why would you resent buying an outfit and gifts in the scenario where they had already got married beforehand, but not in the one where they hadn't? It's still only one set of costs. There is a weird resentment on here of being invited to a wedding generally, so maybe it's the same people who would welcome an excuse to begrudge being invited even more than usual.

AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 19:15

TheCoty · Yesterday 13:51

Just do the register office with the kids and two witnesses. Announce it and then skip the wedding. No-one actually likes going to weddings, they are an obligation and tedious for all except the bride. Spend that money on something for your family.

I love a good wedding! As do many other people!

AurielleBaies · Yesterday 19:15

AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 19:10

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think Muslim weddings aren’t the legal ceremony? I think some work colleagues had registry office ceremonies then a massive wedding shortly after. It’s the 2 year gap that would seem odd to me. Some guests wouldn’t bother attending if it was a distance away, involved a lot of money & effort etc imo.

But if you were going to make the effort and spend the money on the couple anyway, why does it matter if it’s legal or not? Like truly why do you care. If you don’t want to spend the time or money then don’t go regardless imo.

FarmGirl78 · Yesterday 19:16

NotMeAtAll · Yesterday 13:15

Why bother having anything in 2028?

Because she wants a wedding not a marriage.

Big frock.
Centre of attention.
Instagram photos.
People talking about it.
Presents.