Is it too late to turn the uk around?

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Is it too far gone now?

How do you explain the local election results? Massive amount for Reform, not a small proportion.. Wouldn't be shocked when they get voted in next election, sadly needlessly to say.

Where did you get this statistic? I haven't seen this in any nursery, the vast majority of children are white. Perhaps in some inner city locations, but this statistic doesn't beat out across the country.

Yes I think so, and I don’t even mean it in the way Reform do.

I think our population is far far far too high. The racial makeup aspect is irrelevant, the numbers are just far too big for too small a country. But there’s nothing humane you can really do about such a large population so it’s here to stay. But that in turn means dearer and less available housing, more congestion, overburdened infrastructure. We are a hugely overpopulated country trying to navigate a Victorian set up of narrow streets and small houses.

Sadly this is and will lead to a lot of physical and mental health problems in the population as well as unaffordable living.

It really isn’t. The country is in an absolute mess thanks to successive governments and complacency over the years.

The economy is in flatline, living standards are in free fall. The NHS is in a mess. We sold off all our industry. The armed forces have been left to rack and ruin for years, our waters are polluted, our politicians sold off all our gas storage, we don’t really have any effective border controls, kids mental health in decline - no surprise really as there’s hardly any prospects for them anymore - practically zero chance of them getting on the housing ladder now unless mummy and daddy are rich and they have a nice trust fund tucked away. It’s no wonder so many young people are choosing not to have children.

I could go on, but you get the gist.

It’s really depressing.

Before when?

Only 4% of the UK is built upon. Get a grip! I don't think we should increase immigration by any means, but if we weren't such a lethargic nation with NIMBY mentalities we could actually solve many of the issues we face. We need some vigour in this country, not defeatist lethargic attitudes.

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I don't think it's too late. I think as long as we've got people who want to turn it around, it's not too late.

Obviously, I'm going on vibes because you haven't specifically said you mean though

But while I am particularly negative generally, and worried about the economy, no I still don't think it's too late.

What on earth do you want the armed forces to do? Do you really want martial rule?

You do know that we already deport illegal immigrants, don't you?

Every child won't grow up to pay for the whole of society. I don't think it's very rational to cut potential for those who will, I'd quite like someone to pay for my pension if nothing else.

What law and order do you claim we don't have?

Exactly, lots of children with SEN will work, some may go on to be extremely sucessful.

Richard Branson I think is dyslexic, Bill gates has ADHD, Simon Biles has ADHD, as does the guy who founded IKEA. I'm sure there are loads nore examples.

SEN provision does need overhauling, currently it's high cost, limited benefit for too many children, with too many delays and structural barriers. There is never going to be more money, but what there is, could be used much more effectively

People’s voting patterns in mid-term locals aren't a very good indicator of who they vote for in a general election 2+ years later. Completely erroneously, people often see local elections as consequence-free and a bit like a popularity contest, when in reality local elections are pretty important at determining how your life pans out.

My main point though was that extreme parties trading on whipping up racial hatred are generally not very succesful in the UK. As a country, it’s too diverse, too educated, too much shaped by wave after wave of immigration.

People voting for Reform will also react very badly, by and large, to any sense they’ve been tricked, misled, or hoodwinked, and Reform have hoisted themselves by their own petard there - witness people who have had to resign because of their stupid social media posts or unpalatable history…

In many parts of the UK street muggings are not punished by law which seems a fairly good start

I can't believe that's a serious question

Before people were jailed for having an opinion?
Before the authorities, terrified of being labelled racist, allowed dangerous people free to murder?
Before 2 tier justice?
Before we had hordes of undocumented men roaming the freely on the streets intimidating (and worse) women and young girls?
Only yesterday 3 or 4 streets from me, a teenage boy was chased through the streets by a barefoot man of middle Eastern appearance, and smashed in the face with a brick. This man has been arrested and removed from the town and is now ON BAIL pending further inquiries. So basically free to go and do the same again, or worse, to somebody else's child

Bullshit. No GP is refusing appointments to people who genuinely need them in favour of people who need interpreters.

It makes no sense whatsoever for schools not to meet SEND. Proper provision literally makes the difference between children with SEND becoming working, taxpaying members of society and spending their lives on benefits and/or in the justice system.

Universities don't prioritise applications from deprived backgrounds, but they do rightly make allowances for candidates in those circumstances. A student who has struggled against massive odds to achieve Grade Bs a A level will be much more successful as a student and in later life than one who has dossed his way through school on daddy's money and has only got A levels because he has been spoon-fed what to write by his expensive public school.

You can lie to yourself and everyone else about the death of public services as much as you like but nobody believes what you're saying. And unfortunately you just make bad actors in politics more attractive because some people panic that they're the only option.

We aren't overpopulated, and if anything our population is falling. Witness the problems people having finding staff in the NHS and service industries, witness the fact that primary schools are being closed down for lack of applicants. We desperately need more immigrants.

I'd certainly prefer my medical treatment to come from a proven smart kid than a kid who might be smart if only he'd had the right options in life. Certainly in my profession the leg up kids are usually not great. (Fortunately nobody tends to die when we fuck up at least not immediately)

Not bullshit. All the ones who need an interpreter get seen first because interpreters are paid by the hour, by the NHS (us) so we have to wait in the queue.
Most other countries do not provide free interpreters, they have to bring family member or friend with them to interpret. Perhaps this is something the NHS should look into, saving the taxpayers a cart load of money

The population is increasing year on year.

You know what, you're ignorant and confident so there's no point to this.

I don't think it's 'too late'. But I do think we are at a turning point/crossroads where some tough decisions will need to be made on our priorities and needs as a country. Our national debt is growing by the day, and the more money which goes on paying the interest on that, the less is available for public services, and we are creating a ticking timebomb for our children. This is creating a perfect conditions for extremism (far right, far left) to flourish, which is really concerning. I really hope labour brings the COL under control, national debt down. They need to calm this political storm, so Reform don't get in, as then we would be completely stuffed.

If the evidence is there and the attackers are caught, they certainly are.

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Nope. We book a patient, and if they need an interpreter then we book that. Yes they cost the NHS more, but they aren't seen any quicker due to needing one.